CruiseMomTX Posted November 3, 2016 #76 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Any updates on the Liberty? On the Nov 19th sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plattwear Posted November 4, 2016 #77 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) Confusing part is why are we still suppose to board late if the reason was to do the turnover. I am concerned about us being able to go on Saturday. I would hope if we are going and still leaving late Carnival would at least let us board at regular times......this is terrible waiting for yes, no, maybe or I don't know. So many rumors floating around it is not even funny.......Carnival should make an update at least to the ones who have already received emails about next 2 cruises..... I agree we.. 38 other ladies and myself (we did have 47 but 8 have already cancelled) are suppose to sail as a group next Thursday, a week from today. We are just waiting to see what happens with the next cruise and what time it arrives back in port. Edited November 4, 2016 by plattwear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted November 4, 2016 #78 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) Such unnecessary snark. Also, inaccurate. The initial statement was ambiguous and could fairly be read either way. No...I stand by my statement. Pretty concise for people with average reading comprehension. There is no or anywhere in those two independent clauses which listed what would be provided. "We will provide you with a full refund of your cruise and any pre purchased excursions and Fun Shop items. We’d love nothing more than the opportunity to provide you with the cruise experience you were expecting and will gladly apply a 100% credit of the amount paid for this cruise toward your next 2-5 day cruise on Carnival. Edited November 4, 2016 by ray98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bptex Posted November 4, 2016 #79 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I'm not too concerned about Progresso, but I'm confused as to why the late embarkation lol We don't have to wait for others to debark and the rooms to be cleaned lol I'd imagine they are gearing up for some pretty involved inspections from the Coast Guard before passengers are allowed on board. That and they'll have to completely restock all of the perishables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 4, 2016 #80 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I'd imagine they are gearing up for some pretty involved inspections from the Coast Guard before passengers are allowed on board. That and they'll have to completely restock all of the perishables. If it was simply an alternator failure, the testing by USCG is legally not required, as the main generators are not considered to be propulsion equipment, but even if done as part of SOLAS port state, should only take an hour or two. I don't see that provisioning would be much different than a normal turn-around, so I don't see either one impacting boarding. Even if USCG wanted to do a port state inspection and crew drill, they would more than likely have done it this week when no pax are onboard, so there would be no disruption of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeCruiseGuy Posted November 4, 2016 #81 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seekingamid Posted November 4, 2016 #82 Share Posted November 4, 2016 At least they managed to cancel it before putting people on the ship this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff274 Posted November 4, 2016 #83 Share Posted November 4, 2016 We were already half way to Galveston. Looking for alternatives now. LOS booked Breeze booked. Cancun an option. What a mess for a lot of people. I agree at least we were not on board yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeCruiseGuy Posted November 5, 2016 #84 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Definitely disappointing when you plan for a vacation and you are faced with stress, rather than relaxation. Hope you are able to salvage your vacation. Edited November 5, 2016 by BuckeyeCruiseGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseMomTX Posted November 5, 2016 #85 Share Posted November 5, 2016 So sorry to all of you that now have to figure out how to salvage your time off. Were scheduled to sail the week of Thanksgiving and wondering if that will happen now. Good luck to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted November 5, 2016 #86 Share Posted November 5, 2016 ff274 - did you check the Freedom, think it is back into Galveston tomorrow doing the 7 night run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeCruiseGuy Posted November 5, 2016 #87 Share Posted November 5, 2016 ff274 - did you check the Freedom, think it is back into Galveston tomorrow doing the 7 night run. That sailing is sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket_7 Posted November 5, 2016 #88 Share Posted November 5, 2016 We were booked on this cruise. As soon as we received notice that the cruise was cancelled we started looking for different options. Probably right along with everyone else. All cruises out of Galveston are full. We even checked New Orleans since we drove down from Okla. We ended up booking a 7 day out of Miami and will fly out in the morning and board the ship. It was either find an alternative or turn around and drive 10 hours back home. My husband was using the last of his vacation so we made it work. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILCruzr Posted November 5, 2016 #89 Share Posted November 5, 2016 That sailing is sold out. of course it is the day before...lol.....I am on the 11/26 sailing and getting nervous!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeCruiseGuy Posted November 5, 2016 #90 Share Posted November 5, 2016 of course it is the day before...lol.....I am on the 11/26 sailing and getting nervous!!!! Fingers crossed for you! I know she has a scheduled dry dock right after your cruise, hopefully they dont cancel more cruises and go to drydock earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted November 5, 2016 #91 Share Posted November 5, 2016 wow....This is going to end up being a major repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 5, 2016 #92 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Fingers crossed for you! I know she has a scheduled dry dock right after your cruise, hopefully they dont cancel more cruises and go to drydock earlier. While the possibility of more cancellations exists, and I've got to admit that this one puzzles me as to why its taking so long, and why they need to cancel completely if it is simply an alternator, the possibility of moving a drydock ahead is very tiny. Grand Bahamas, in particular, is booked solid for about 18 months in advance, and they lost a few days due to Matthew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plattwear Posted November 5, 2016 #93 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) If it was simply an alternator failure, the testing by USCG is legally not required, as the main generators are not considered to be propulsion equipment, but even if done as part of SOLAS port state, should only take an hour or two. I don't see that provisioning would be much different than a normal turn-around, so I don't see either one impacting boarding. Even if USCG wanted to do a port state inspection and crew drill, they would more than likely have done it this week when no pax are onboard, so there would be no disruption of service. Someone posted on a board yesterday right before the official announcement from Carnival was sent that the Coast Guard stated the 11/5 cruise was cancelled. I saw it. People were attacking her basically -so she removed her post. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Edited November 5, 2016 by plattwear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted November 5, 2016 #94 Share Posted November 5, 2016 While the possibility of more cancellations exists, and I've got to admit that this one puzzles me as to why its taking so long, and why they need to cancel completely if it is simply an alternator, the possibility of moving a drydock ahead is very tiny. Grand Bahamas, in particular, is booked solid for about 18 months in advance, and they lost a few days due to Matthew. Is there a calendar somewhere for the Grand Bahamas yards? Just curious to see what ships are scheduled in for maintenance / upgrades and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 5, 2016 #95 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Someone posted on a board yesterday right before the official announcement from Carnival was sent that the Coast Guard stated the 11/5 cruise was cancelled. I saw it. People were attacking her basically -so she removed her post. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Not sure what the USCG has to do with it. Even if one propulsion motor/shaft/propeller was down, the other is considered sufficient to sail (98% of the world's ships only have one propeller), but they would probably require a tug escort into/out of US ports. The only thing I could think of would be that the USCG held a port state inspection, and found a fault with some SOLAS equipment. Even then, it isn't the USCG's call to cancel a cruise, just to detain a ship until repairs are complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 5, 2016 #96 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Is there a calendar somewhere for the Grand Bahamas yards? Just curious to see what ships are scheduled in for maintenance / upgrades and when. I don't know of a schedule for GBSY, but there might be one out there. Googling "cruise ship drydockings" leads to several sites that deal with the schedules the lines publish, and cover some of the intended work. You can figure that almost every ship sailing from the US East and Gulf Coasts will use GBSY, due to its location and cost. Not sure about the Quantum class, I haven't checked the dock specs lately, but as we know they cannot handle Oasis class except in special circumstances. GBSY does way more cargo ships than passenger ships, my ship last November had to schedule a two week slot 12 months in advance, for one of the smaller docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plattwear Posted November 5, 2016 #97 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Irregardless, the Coast Guard was involved. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddylover Posted November 5, 2016 #98 Share Posted November 5, 2016 At least they managed to cancel it before putting people on the ship this time... But not much difference....as people like us fly if to get to our cruises and we would already be 'enroute' or THERE by the day before.....like we have planned for our Liberty on Nov. 26th cruise....flying in early on the 25th!! Not much difference to us!! Pretty bad if you ask me, as I truly know and believe that CCL knows further out than the DAY BEFORE that the ship will NOT be ready. This is NO WAY to handle expensive vacation plans made sometimes YEARS in advance by their paying clientele!! BAD MOVE CCL!! :mad::( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texast518 Posted November 5, 2016 #99 Share Posted November 5, 2016 What are they going to do with the Liberty tomorrow when Breeze & RCCl come in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin Hogs Posted November 5, 2016 #100 Share Posted November 5, 2016 This is why we stick with the newer ships .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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