chengkp75 Posted December 4, 2016 #176 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Sorry to put your arse in the sling, but it was better coming from you than me, more credibility I guess and thank-you.:):) Don't sell yourself short. Well, sounds like fog has closed the channel, so no work for me tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1950 Posted December 4, 2016 #177 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Don't sell yourself short. Well, sounds like fog has closed the channel, so no work for me tonight. Ah, the infamous Texas fog. Enjoy the rest of your evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #178 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Anchor released by passenger story here: http://gcaptain.com/cruise-ship-passenger-sentenced/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optotronics Posted December 4, 2016 #179 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Pretty unusual for this type of incident to happen. If it is any consolation the Regal is a, relatively speaking, brand new ship. We loved it and you probably will too. Enjoy your cruise. Thanks, I'm not too worried about the regal and am sure everything will be great. I am just hoping a through investigation is done by an independent agency to find out the string of events which lead to this and action taken much like when the FAA investigates an aircraft incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maizer Posted December 4, 2016 #180 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Watertight doors are manually dogged...once they are closed...they don't fail...I don't know if the compartment is watertight. I'd be more concerned about pumping out ingested seawater...but I have no clue what the configuration is like for that on that ship. The next watertight door is a manual dogged door much like what mrs and mrs posted a picture of. Unless someone goes and opens this, it won't fail. Thanks. Well I guess it goes without saying hope those function as designed for the next few days! We're on track to get back by 3pm on Monday. After the first couple of initial announcements, the cruise director in his cheerful voice is making all the latest news and announcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 4, 2016 #181 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'm new here and in fact we're going on our first cruise on the regal next month. I've been following this thread all day and it concerns us that something like this which you think should have been found back in Hawaii and not 500miles out to sea. Is this something that the NTSB or other government overseer of safety will be investigating to find out if it were human error or design flaw and have them take steps to prevent this from happening again?If the same type of interlocks and sensors are used in other locations in the ship a future failure of the same type could perhaps have a much worse outcome. While the USCG will be the lead agency on this (and they can call on NTSB for expertise, but generally only do this for fatalities), you must understand the international nature of the industry. The USCG can inspect and investigate this incident to determine if something does not meet the standards of SOLAS (the international Safety of Life at Sea convention). But, since this ship is flagged in Bermuda, they are limited in what they can require. If the system, as designed, meets SOLAS, then the USCG can only "recommend" to the Bermudan Maritime Authority that changes be made, if the USCG feels that changes should be made. The USCG in this instance is acting as a "port state" (a signatory to SOLAS where the ship is in port), and can inspect to see that repairs meet SOLAS. Since the incident happened in international waters, it is the flag state (Bermuda) who has responsibility for investigating the cause of the incident, but since the US was the closest land, and the majority of passengers is likely US citizens, the USCG can request "interested party" status with Bermuda to be included as observers of the Bermudan investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hospitalworker Posted December 4, 2016 #182 Share Posted December 4, 2016 sorry, just to clarify my earlier post - regarding compensation for the cruise = "all guests will receive a 50% refund of the cruise fare paid refunded to the original form of payment Each guest will also receive a Future Cruise Credit equal to 50% of the cruise fare paid on this voyage The credit is applicable to any future Princess cruise booked by December 31, 2017". Also each cabin can obtain a voucher for 30 minutes free internet time and there are a couple of 'free' ship to shore phones being made available. We should be receiving flight info tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 4, 2016 #183 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Anchor released by passenger story here: http://gcaptain.com/cruise-ship-passenger-sentenced/ Ah, stern anchor, much different. Also, as much as I like gcaptain, I don't believe dropping a stern anchor would bring the ship "to a sudden halt". First off, the water would need to be shallow enough that the anchor would hit bottom and then have enough scope to pull horizontally on the anchor to get it to bite. Then the sheer power of moving the ship at 18 knots would have taken the chain all the way out, where the "weak link" at the bitter end of the chain would have failed as designed and the anchor and chain would have been lost. Anyway, this diverts from the Grand's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1950 Posted December 4, 2016 #184 Share Posted December 4, 2016 sorry, just to clarify my earlier post - regarding compensation for the cruise = "all guests will receive a 50% refund of the cruise fare paid refunded to the original form of payment Each guest will also receive a Future Cruise Credit equal to 50% of the cruise fare paid on this voyage The credit is applicable to any future Princess cruise booked by December 31, 2017".Also each cabin can obtain a voucher for 30 minutes free internet time and there are a couple of 'free' ship to shore phones being made available. We should be receiving flight info tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon. Thanks for keeping us updated. Always interesting to hear what, and how, Princess does to take care of these unusual incidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #185 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) The sudden halt was after he drunkenly removed a life ring to keep as a souvenir. A man overboard alarm sounded and he threw the life ring overboard to get it out of his hands. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming... Edited December 4, 2016 by p_mori7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 4, 2016 #186 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Appears to be a tug/special service craft, standing 200 miles off her starboard bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #187 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Appears to be a tug/special service craft, standing 200 miles off her starboard bow. Speed is way down as well. 1 knot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 4, 2016 #188 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Showing 11.4 knots (which is not quick) 256 deg heading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #189 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Yup, back up now. I wonder if they have to slow down periodically to allow for pumping out of seawater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromep Posted December 4, 2016 #190 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Appears to be a tug/special service craft, standing 200 miles off her starboard bow. What web site do you use for ship tracking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #191 Share Posted December 4, 2016 For the benefit of those onboard monitoring this thread, you have backtracked a little over 150 miles already since turning around earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 4, 2016 #192 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Yup, back up now. I wonder if they have to slow down periodically to allow for pumping out of seawater. Absolutely not out of the question, I'm trying to figure out the time frame, I cant figure if its night/day out there. Puter wont let me tap in properly to tracking site as its not recognising my password. Otherwise I could give sea-state, wind, as is and predicted. A bit lost with basic info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mori7 Posted December 4, 2016 #193 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Right now it is 8:51 pm Honolulu time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekka49 Posted December 4, 2016 #194 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The only real problem I have is to finish drinking the wine I brought on board, challenge accepted! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Do you need help drinking all that wine ;):p;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted December 4, 2016 #195 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Wow! That will take more than a bit of elbow grease. "It's only a flesh wound". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted December 4, 2016 #196 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Right now it is 8:51 pm Honolulu time. Hawaii is two hours behind the West Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted December 4, 2016 #197 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Absolutely not out of the question, I'm trying to figure out the time frame, I cant figure if its night/day out there. Puter wont let me tap in properly to tracking site as its not recognising my password. Otherwise I could give sea-state, wind, as is and predicted. A bit lost with basic info. I think you're in Australia & at this time of the year you're 21 hours ahead of Hawaii. Edited December 4, 2016 by Astro Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 4, 2016 #198 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I think you're in Australia & at this time of the year you're 21 hours ahead of Hawaii. Cheers, yep correct, sitting up in the top end.:)Northern territory Watching lightning crack all over the place, its a steamy 38 degs and as humid as all get-out,with some frequent downpours.But all is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maizer Posted December 4, 2016 #199 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I don't want to worry anyone onboard, but this is a serious breach of watertight integrity, which is why the ship has turned around for the closest port. It will not sail until this is fixed. The ship's pumps can keep up with any water inflow (and they are adjusting speed to minimize this), but even if the entire watertight compartment flooded (there are doors separating it from other compartments along the ship), the ship would not sink. Well we just got a letter stating that "... a tender platform on the starboard side of the ship opened, for reasons yet unknown. The platform sustained damage such that it could not be closed. Although the [tender] platform is not part of the watertight integrity of vessel as a result of it opening the hull sustained minor localized damage which has been secured." I'm guessing they're trying to keep us calm and assured, which is great. As for 'not part of the watertight integrity'... uhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 4, 2016 #200 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) UPDATE/ Grand 1.1 Knots heading 260 deg Tug/sec serv craft doing doughnuts, approx. 170 miles off her starboard bow. Looks like tug is waiting for her to catch-up so as to escort her in. Back up to 10.6 knots @ 257 deg Edited December 4, 2016 by mrs and mrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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