princess_mom Posted October 24, 2017 #1 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Hi - has anyone traveled on ncl lately without a passport, only an enhanced drivers license? I've done it before to the Bahamas and Bermuda, and most recently on Carnival to Canada. I reviewed the WHT1 government info for the US and Bahamas and looks like it is still fine. I just did my online check-in for my Nov BA cruise to the Bahamas and EDL was not available to choose as my form of ID. Makes me a little nervous :confused::o Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted October 25, 2017 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The TSA is saying that EDL's aree not secure enough of an ID. Washington State is one of them. There may come a time soon where you will be required to have a passport to even board a domestic flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mking8288 Posted October 25, 2017 #3 Share Posted October 25, 2017 TSA has a list of States with Real ID/compliant EDL and Passport Cards that meet the latest requirements - check yours against it. Here in State of NY, we have been using my EDL and her non-driver Passport Card for domestic travel - paid extra fees for them; and, use ours for ID purposes, including domestic air travel. For cruises, we always carry our U.S. Passports, just in case - EDL is just our secondary ID and backup should it become necessary. Status of our EDL is "Under Review" while other states are "compliant" or given "extension" This topic will surely come up again, over and over - https://www.dhs.gov/real-id Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycarla Posted October 25, 2017 #4 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The EDL can be used in place of a passport for limited entry - parts of Carrib, Mexico and Canada. A regular DL and birth cert can still be used for closed loop cruises. The EDL is not for passport use elsewhere. As to the EDL and air travel - that is another story. A few states have still not me the federal requirement by next year. Supposedly, those folks will have trouble flying. I will bet they will not. I believe an earlier statement about EDL not being okay for flying was in error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princess_mom Posted October 25, 2017 Author #5 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Thanks for the answers. mking - I am also in NY. From the link that you posted, it sounds like our "Real ID" compliance status is under review but my current EDL is still acceptable for cruising. My teens also have the Enhanced ID cards. I will definitely bring our birth certificates too, sounds like that works for closed loop cruises. Next year we are all getting passports! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare www3traveler Posted October 25, 2017 #6 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The EDL can be used in place of a passport for limited entry - parts of Carrib, Mexico and Canada. A regular DL and birth cert can still be used for closed loop cruises. The EDL is not for passport use elsewhere. As to the EDL and air travel - that is another story. A few states have still not me the federal requirement by next year. Supposedly, those folks will have trouble flying. I will bet they will not. I believe an earlier statement about EDL not being okay for flying was in error. I was out at MY local airport yesterday seeing a friend off. Signage in the lobby said that passports MAY BE required sometime in 2018 to board. I do not know if the signage was placed by our local airport board or from the one carrier serving this airport. I do know that Washington has had an extension for compliance granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitterman Posted October 25, 2017 #7 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Hi - has anyone traveled on ncl lately without a passport, only an enhanced drivers license? I've done it before to the Bahamas and Bermuda, and most recently on Carnival to Canada. I reviewed the WHT1 government info for the US and Bahamas and looks like it is still fine. I just did my online check-in for my Nov BA cruise to the Bahamas and EDL was not available to choose as my form of ID. Makes me a little nervous :confused::o Thanks! I used my Enhanced NY driver license on our NCL cruise to Canada back in June with no problems. In fact, although I did have my actual passport, I used the enhanced license for entry back into the US just to test it out. The Border Patrol officer said to me "oh, you have one of those fancy licenses", lol. Remember though that it's always a good idea to bring your real passport when going out of country in case you have to fly back in an emergency. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BostonGal35 Posted October 25, 2017 #8 Share Posted October 25, 2017 the enhanced license is useless if you go to an island as you cant fly home with it. canada you are ok because you can drive if you have to, back into the states. just bring a real passport book and be done with it. much safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitterman Posted October 25, 2017 #9 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Thanks for the answers. mking - I am also in NY. From the link that you posted, it sounds like our "Real ID" compliance status is under review but my current EDL is still acceptable for cruising. My teens also have the Enhanced ID cards. I will definitely bring our birth certificates too, sounds like that works for closed loop cruises. Next year we are all getting passports!I'm also from NY and have an Enhanced license. If your state issues an Enhanced license it is compliant and can be used for air travel. Why NY is "under review" is because of our "standard" licenses, not the Enhanced. NY has fairly recently redesigned their licenses but for sure not everybody has the new design. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted October 25, 2017 #10 Share Posted October 25, 2017 So,,,, here’s the deal. It does not matter what CBP accepts, it matters what NCL and port security will accept at checkin. You can argue until you are blie in the face,,,, as your ship sails away. Follow the NCL instructions on ncl’s travel documentation requirements for your cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princess_mom Posted October 25, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Thank you Bitterman - exactly the info I was looking for. I, too, have heard 'oh, a fancy license' and agents always get a kick out of my daughters having their own ID cards, since it's really not needed for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBunsenHoneydew Posted October 25, 2017 #12 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The TSA is saying that EDL's aree not secure enough of an ID. Washington State is one of them. There may come a time soon where you will be required to have a passport to even board a domestic flight. This statement is incorrect. EDL's are, in fact, accepted IDs for air travel under new TSA rules. It's the non-enhanced driver's licenses issued by Washington State that will no longer be accepted by the TSA starting sometime in 2018. https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs Q; Will a federal agency accept my Enhanced Driver’s License? Yes. State Enhanced Driver’s Licenses (EDLs) designated as acceptable border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative are acceptable for official federal purposes such as accessing a Federal facility or boarding a commercial aircraft. Individual agency policies may still apply. Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington are the only states that currently issue EDLs. For more information on EDLs, please go to www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitterman Posted October 25, 2017 #13 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I'm also from NY and have an Enhanced license. If your state issues an Enhanced license it is compliant and can be used for air travel. Why NY is "under review" is because of our "standard" licenses, not the Enhanced. NY has fairly recently redesigned their licenses but for sure not everybody has the new design. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk I should also have specified the enhanced license works for "domestic air travel" only. The only thing you can fly international on is a real passport. :-) Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtech Posted October 25, 2017 #14 Share Posted October 25, 2017 As of January there are 9 states whose DL will not be acceptable for domestic flights, Pennsylvania is one of them. Cannot see them meeting requirements for all drivers by then. Glad we just renewed our passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted October 26, 2017 #15 Share Posted October 26, 2017 So you have that EDL (Enhanced Drivers License) fine - just great - OK for those Closed Loop Cruises ! Fancy this you are traveling one of those closed loop cruises and you need urgent medical or otherwise attention and the nearest port is not on or within closed loop itinerary. You are medevac to that port and now without a Passport the "RED TAPE" begins to unravel ! Woulda - Couda - Shoulda have gotten that Passport - good luck with that EDL - you probably will be in no condition to drive in that port country not that that matters - but the method to rapidly move you to a US facility is now hampered without the Passport document. I live in one of those EDL states (Minnesota) where the EDL is not all it should be and further political conflicts exist whether it can be used for Identification or simply a drivers license. First time getting the Passport maybe fraught with troublesome hurdles but the Passport is hands down the perfect travel document. Valid for 10 years in most cases except for maybe the last 6 months with restrictions from the travel provider. 1 single document does it all - no drivers license enhanced or funky flaming hoops leap of faith to jump through - does not need a BC (Birth Certificate) to it back up - no notarized seals stamps or impressions necessary. Passing a drivers test not required. Using a Drivers License as an ID may cause you more trouble than what it is worth. Have had a DUI DWI or other incident with your drivers license you maybe forbidden entry into Canada using it as a ID document. In the future it will all be about the Passport - getting one now on the cheap side is a smart move - renewing is easy to do - cruising with a Passport is the Enhanced travel experience ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted October 26, 2017 #16 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Hi - has anyone traveled on ncl lately without a passport, only an enhanced drivers license? I've done it before to the Bahamas and Bermuda, and most recently on Carnival to Canada. I reviewed the WHT1 government info for the US and Bahamas and looks like it is still fine. I just did my online check-in for my Nov BA cruise to the Bahamas and EDL was not available to choose as my form of ID. Makes me a little nervous :confused::oSome states yes and others no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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