Wishing on a star Posted March 14, 2018 #1 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Oooops, that should read key-symbols, not like the actual cabin key to get in the door!!! On the deckplans, most verandah cabins have a hollow circle symbol, which should designate the small pull-out for a third passenger, right? What if there is NO symbol at all shown on the verandah stateroom. NON-pullout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily@Sea Posted March 14, 2018 #2 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Oooops, that should read key-symbols, not like the actual cabin key to get in the door!!! On the deckplans, most verandah cabins have a hollow circle symbol, which should designate the small pull-out for a third passenger, right? What if there is NO symbol at all shown on the verandah stateroom. NON-pullout? Symbols are only on the rooms to which they apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishing on a star Posted March 14, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Of course, I know that.... I am wondering if it is a NON pull-out little sofa in the verandah staterooms that do not have any symbol. What does it mean if there is no symbol. Assuming all verandah cabins (Koningsdam / Nieuw Statendam) do have the little sofa. I am wondering if that would be preferable for any reason, if there are only two of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily@Sea Posted March 14, 2018 #4 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Of course, I know that....I am wondering if it is a NON pull-out little sofa in the verandah staterooms that do not have any symbol. What does it mean if there is no symbol. Assuming all verandah cabins (Koningsdam / Nieuw Statendam) do have the little sofa. I am wondering if that would be preferable for any reason, if there are only two of us? Most of the sofas are large loveseat size - if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted March 14, 2018 #5 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Of course, I know that....I am wondering if it is a NON pull-out little sofa in the verandah staterooms that do not have any symbol. What does it mean if there is no symbol. Assuming all verandah cabins (Koningsdam / Nieuw Statendam) do have the little sofa. I am wondering if that would be preferable for any reason, if there are only two of us? Having the little sofa doesn't absolutely equal a pull out bed. Not all cabins are approved for more than 2 pax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishing on a star Posted March 14, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted March 14, 2018 So, this might be a NON-pull out little sofa.... Probably doesn't matter... but just wondering if it makes a difference. Sometimes the pull-outs don't 'sit' well??? No biggie. but, I am just curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted March 14, 2018 #7 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Curious is good. I'm like that myself! The HAL site says balconies on the Pinncale class have a "sitting area". In my experience with HAL, this means a love seat or sofa. Triples and quads have a pullout, the others do not. I have found that pullouts are firmer to sit on and less likely to sag than regular sofas/love seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted March 14, 2018 #8 Share Posted March 14, 2018 So, this might be a NON-pull out little sofa....Probably doesn't matter... but just wondering if it makes a difference. Sometimes the pull-outs don't 'sit' well??? No biggie. but, I am just curious! I think on the newest 7 ships only the Insides lack a sofa or love seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily@Sea Posted March 14, 2018 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think on the newest 7 ships only the Insides lack a sofa or love seat. My inside on the newly refurbished Nieuw Amsterdam had a very nice new sofa. L-shaped that fit in the corner. I don't know about any of the other inside cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted March 14, 2018 #10 Share Posted March 14, 2018 My inside on the newly refurbished Nieuw Amsterdam had a very nice new sofa. L-shaped that fit in the corner. I don't know about any of the other inside cabins. Those insides are very different from other insides, outsides and balconies. Most cabins are long and narrow with no room for the L-shaped sofa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishing on a star Posted March 14, 2018 Author #11 Share Posted March 14, 2018 And, I am aware that It could even be an actual pull-out. Like somebody said, even if the cabin is a max-2. The different cabin capacities are there to meet policy and total ship capacity. So, an unnecessary pull-out would not be surprising. I am just curious if there are differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 14, 2018 #12 Share Posted March 14, 2018 And, I am aware that It could even be an actual pull-out. Like somebody said, even if the cabin is a max-2.The different cabin capacities are there to meet policy and total ship capacity. So, an unnecessary pull-out would not be surprising. I am just curious if there are differences. Good to be asking about these notation differences. I just recently learned when there is a symbol for connecting cabins, even if you don't want connecting cabins, there can be one less closet where the connecting door is added - closet space is always something I dearly do want. So I now pay attention to those little symbols too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishing on a star Posted March 14, 2018 Author #13 Share Posted March 14, 2018 HAL is pretty good about showing the connecting cabins... On other cruise line deck plans, sometimes you have to watch out to avoid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darstamp Posted August 28, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 28, 2018 How can you tell what the symbols mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted August 28, 2018 #15 Share Posted August 28, 2018 How can you tell what the symbols mean?The "new and improved" HAL site omits the symbol key in the on-line diagrams! Click on the button that says "PDF All Decks" and you can see them. Here it is for the Nieuw Statendam: https://www.hollandamerica.com/content/dam/hal/inventory-assets/ships/pdf-files/ns.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darstamp Posted August 28, 2018 #16 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The "new and improved" HAL site omits the symbol key in the on-line diagrams! Click on the button that says "PDF All Decks" and you can see them. Here it is for the Nieuw Statendam: https://www.hollandamerica.com/content/dam/hal/inventory-assets/ships/pdf-files/ns.pdf Thanks. Kind of important information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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