GA Dave Posted July 3, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 3, 2018 due to low capacity numbers? I know the airlines will do this if the number of passengers is really low and they do not have to re-position the aircraft. Happened to me a couple of times with an airline based in ATL (hint, hint) when I lived in KS. Just wondering if anyone has heard of a cruise being cancelled in recent memory by any of the major lines due to low pre-sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelulu01 Posted July 4, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 4, 2018 due to low capacity numbers? I know the airlines will do this if the number of passengers is really low and they do not have to re-position the aircraft. Happened to me a couple of times with an airline based in ATL (hint, hint) when I lived in KS. Just wondering if anyone has heard of a cruise being cancelled in recent memory by any of the major lines due to low pre-sale. Did they actually cancel you as in sorry we don’t do the flight you purchased any longer here’s your $ back? or did they say they have a schedule change and still get you to where you want to go? Pretty sure they cannot just tell you sorry here is your $ back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted July 4, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Did they actually cancel you as in sorry we don’t do the flight you purchased any longer here’s your $ back? or did they say they have a schedule change and still get you to where you want to go? Pretty sure they cannot just tell you sorry here is your $ back. They posted the flights as “Cancelled” on the monitors and then re-booked us to a flight five hours later. There were less than ten of us on a CRJ200 flight both times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted July 4, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 4, 2018 due to low capacity numbers? I know the airlines will do this if the number of passengers is really low and they do not have to re-position the aircraft. Happened to me a couple of times with an airline based in ATL (hint, hint) when I lived in KS. Just wondering if anyone has heard of a cruise being cancelled in recent memory by any of the major lines due to low pre-sale. Never. Ever. The only recent cancellation was when the three hurricanes filled the Caribbean and they sailed ships into open ocean away from the storms. Even then, they took stranded passengers and employees to safety. Ships sail fairly full. Like airlines, cruise lines have sophisticated yield management systems to set price points to fill ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauer-kraut Posted July 4, 2018 #5 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Cruises will be cancelled if it becomes a complete charter. But not due to low capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted July 4, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Cruises will be cancelled if it becomes a complete charter. But not due to low capacity. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted July 4, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Never heard of a cruise canceled because of low numbers. The ship can't just sit in port for a week. The only times I have heard of them being canceled are the following: 1. Full ship charter. 2. The ship suffers a mechanical breakdown and has to immediately be fixed. 3. Weather systems prevent the ship from getting to embarkation port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 4, 2018 #8 Share Posted July 4, 2018 NCL cancelled the Nov 27-Dec 7, 2018 - 10 day cruise on the SUN to S Caribbean from Miami!! Read it here: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2645107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingcruzin Posted July 4, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I believe the Sun itinerary was cancelled because NCL is now having the Sun do 3 and 4 day itineraries to the Bahamas and Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelulu01 Posted July 4, 2018 #10 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Cruise lines can’t afford to cancel a sailing and let the ship sit for the week if sales aren’t going well. They’ll figure a way to fill the ship and sail. They want to make the most profit possible on each sailing so if a better opportunity for profit comes along they’ll take it. This might be a new and different itinerary, or a charter. The Airlines are more regulated and must get you to your paid destination when you purchase a ticket. They cancel and change flights all the time but they are obligated to get you from point a to point b for agreed price once the ticket is purchased. When a cruise line decides to sell your stateroom to someone else for more money they are only obligated to give your money back. Most passengers don’t realize this and go ahead with non refundable airfare, hotels and other plans. Some think purchase of an independent travel insurance policy will cover the airfare... Travel insurance doesn’t cover airfare if the cruise line charters your ship and cancels your vacation. Most lines are not interested in further regulations and also wish to keep passengers, so when they sell your stateroom to someone else for more money they’ll often offer you price protection, airline change fees, extra obc on a similar sailing... The Pearl pacific coast fall 2018 sailing was recently canceled for a charter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted July 4, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 4, 2018 due to low capacity numbers? I know the airlines will do this if the number of passengers is really low and they do not have to re-position the aircraft. Happened to me a couple of times with an airline based in ATL (hint, hint) when I lived in KS. Just wondering if anyone has heard of a cruise being cancelled in recent memory by any of the major lines due to low pre-sale. Certainly haven't heard of any. It would be more problems to cancel a cruise due to low capacity than it would be to cancel or change a flight. I don't think any of us have to worry about our cruises being canceled at the last minute. Normally if there are cancellations they are done months in advance unless there are related issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsnanny Posted July 8, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Never. Ever. The only recent cancellation was when the three hurricanes filled the Caribbean and they sailed ships into open ocean away from the storms. Even then, they took stranded passengers and employees to safety. Ships sail fairly full. Like airlines, cruise lines have sophisticated yield management systems to set price points to fill ships. My sister was booked on a 10 day Caribbean on the Sun. NCL cancelled the cruise and replaced it with a cruise that includes Cuba. They did not honor the price of those already booked on the cruise and if they wanted to book the new ititnary, same cabin etc. it was approx 600.00 PP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted July 8, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 8, 2018 My sister was booked on a 10 day Caribbean on the Sun. NCL cancelled the cruise and replaced it with a cruise that includes Cuba. They did not honor the price of those already booked on the cruise and if they wanted to book the new ititnary, same cabin etc. it was approx 600.00 PP There is an entire thread on the cancellation you are referring to,but that isn't what the OP was asking about. It is a totally different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 10, 2018 #14 Share Posted July 10, 2018 NCL just did it AGAIN: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2654342 https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2645107 TWO SEPARATE 10-DAY CRUISE CANCELLATIONS WITHIN A 4-WEEK PERIOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Silver Posted July 11, 2018 #15 Share Posted July 11, 2018 There is an entire thread on the cancellation you are referring to,but that isn't what the OP was asking about. It is a totally different situation. It may not have been canceled due to low bookings, but it was cancelled due to GREED. Plain and simple GREED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted July 11, 2018 #16 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It may not have been canceled due to low bookings, but it was cancelled due to GREED. Plain and simple GREED. don't know that nor do you, but it could have been for that reason. The fact is, we shouldn't be posting things we do not know are factual, but regardless I feel for those involved. It really doesn't make much difference why I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love my butler Posted July 11, 2018 #17 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It may not have been canceled due to low bookings, but it was cancelled due to GREED. Plain and simple GREED. Oh come on. It was for the 'valued' customers convenience........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesgirl51 Posted July 12, 2018 #18 Share Posted July 12, 2018 There is an entire thread on the cancellation you are referring to,but that isn't what the OP was asking about. It is a totally different situation. Nita, I was on the Sun cruise for this November and Vivian’s words included the word “cancel”. Which was what the Op asked. So the answer is “Yes”, be it for charter, fleet change, emergent issues requiring dry dock or perhaps as I suggested elsewhere, the cruise wasn’t selling well so they added Cuba. Removing a cruise from the schedule willy nilly, then no, NCL does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reveur15 Posted July 20, 2018 #19 Share Posted July 20, 2018 NCL just did it AGAIN: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2654342 https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2645107 TWO SEPARATE 10-DAY CRUISE CANCELLATIONS WITHIN A 4-WEEK PERIOD ... and AGAIN : They did it to me also :mad: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2630308&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted July 20, 2018 #20 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I would think they would drop the prices excessively to try to fill the cruise last minute, rather than cancel it altogether. Sitting in port with all of the staff on board for a week or however many days would still cost them a crazy amount of money. Remember, ports charge a lot of money for ships to sit there. Plus, other ships are schedule to dock in those ports and they would have to make room for them. Even if they take a loss by filling the cruise with cut-rate fares, they would take LESS of a loss and have the potential to earn back some money from the casinos and on board spending, if nothing else. Cruising is already pretty much a "loss-leader" strategy. Fares alone are not enough to fund the operation of ships. They rely on on board spending to make money. So losing a little more on fares to help fill the ship isn't as big a hit to the bottom line as just completely skipping the sailing would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 20, 2018 #21 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Never. Ever.............. This was the funniest answer on this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AL Posted July 20, 2018 #22 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Certainly haven't heard of any. It would be more problems to cancel a cruise due to low capacity than it would be to cancel or change a flight. I don't think any of us have to worry about our cruises being canceled at the last minute. Normally if there are cancellations they are done months in advance unless there are related issues. Followed by this one! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh Posted July 21, 2018 #23 Share Posted July 21, 2018 due to low capacity numbers? I know the airlines will do this if the number of passengers is really low and they do not have to re-position the aircraft. Happened to me a couple of times with an airline based in ATL (hint, hint) when I lived in KS. Just wondering if anyone has heard of a cruise being cancelled in recent memory by any of the major lines due to low pre-sale. My cruise on the Sky in April was cancelled because it was chartered. They let me know after final payment was made, and a month before the ship sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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