sail7seas Posted July 30, 2018 #51 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There is not any reason that if I board a ship in Seattle I can not bring along an apple when we dock in Juneau. The ability of some here to create rules that don’t exist is impressive! Of course, follow the guidelines of the ship, ask if you are unsure, and make yourself a sandwich if you’re allowed and you so desire. Really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 30, 2018 #52 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Do you understand why there would be rules against this? ^^ This is the operative question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsldonk Posted July 30, 2018 #53 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There is not any reason that if I board a ship in Seattle I can not bring along an apple when we dock in Juneau. The ability of some here to create rules that don’t exist is impressive! Of course, follow the guidelines of the ship, ask if you are unsure, and make yourself a sandwich if you’re allowed and you so desire. It’s nobody here making these rules. These are well-established government regulations to prevent the spread of disease to both humans and livestock/produce. Try bringing apples into California from Nevada without proper documentation and inspection and just see how it goes. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBERTEVANOVER Posted July 30, 2018 #54 Share Posted July 30, 2018 OMG-all this from “can I take a picnic lunch off the ship”! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted July 30, 2018 #55 Share Posted July 30, 2018 OMG-all this from “can I take a picnic lunch off the ship”! Sent from my iPhone using Forums No, it was not just a simple question. It was the degree of entitlement attitude that triggered much of the follow-up discussion. Generation gap perhaps? Old thinking - play for the rules vs. new thinking - rules are for fools. Regardless of age or generation, this always causes onboard tensions in these closed-system environments like cruise ships. Where rules become more important than they might be on land-based private property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted July 30, 2018 #56 Share Posted July 30, 2018 It’s nobody here making these rules. These are well-established government regulations to prevent the spread of disease to both humans and livestock/produce. Try bringing apples into California from Nevada without proper documentation and inspection and just see how it goes. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I'll repeat again that the 'rules' are not monolithic. They are a hodge-podge of local, regional and national regulations and they definitely do differ from place to place. Many island and/or tropical nations are particularly keen to avoid inadvertent importation of wee organisms that could be dangerous to their economy. Other places do not have the same prohibitions. Most people cannot be bothered to work out in detail where it's allowed and where it's not allowed to take food off the ship. Clearly, if the ship warns you that it is not okay, you can be sure that it is not. I'd never contravene that. But in other places, it is perfectly legal to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted July 30, 2018 #57 Share Posted July 30, 2018 No, it was not just a simple question. It was the degree of entitlement attitude that triggered much of the follow-up discussion. Generation gap perhaps? Old thinking - play for the rules vs. new thinking - rules are for fools. Regardless of age or generation, this always causes onboard tensions in these closed-system environments like cruise ships. Where rules become more important than they might be on land-based private property. While the generation gap might have had an influence on some posts, I put it down more to a lack of understanding of the underlying reason for the rules than simply an attitude issue. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 30, 2018 #58 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'll repeat again that the 'rules' are not monolithic. They are a hodge-podge of local, regional and national regulations and they definitely do differ from place to place. Many island and/or tropical nations are particularly keen to avoid inadvertent importation of wee organisms that could be dangerous to their economy. Other places do not have the same prohibitions. Most people cannot be bothered to work out in detail where it's allowed and where it's not allowed to take food off the ship. Clearly, if the ship warns you that it is not okay, you can be sure that it is not. I'd never contravene that. But in other places, it is perfectly legal to do so. +1. Agree completely. While the generation gap might have had an influence on some posts, I put it down more to a lack of understanding of the underlying reason for the rules than simply an attitude issue. JMO. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted July 30, 2018 #59 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Many times we have heard the CD state this when he announced that the gangway is open for debarkation. Not all ports have such a law however. Thanks. One of just a few usable takeaways so far from from this thread. Does anyone know if the cruise line has a legal responsibility to provide such customs information before debarkation at each port? Or is it ultimately up to us to ask, and possibly research? Edited July 30, 2018 by SetAnOpenCourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted July 30, 2018 #60 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thanks. One of just a few usable takeaways so far from from this thread. Does anyone know if the cruise line has a legal responsibility to provide such customs information before debarkation at each port? Or is it ultimately up to us to ask, and possibly research? Best to start with the presumption you cannot take non-commerically packaged food stuffs ashore in any port, and look for a specific confirmation that you can. Instead of approaching it the other way around. That seems to be the general approach found if you google this topic - get specific permission up front and assume first you cannot. Most other bloggers on other forums say they only take pre-packaged goods ashore just to be safe and prepared up front for the worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted July 30, 2018 #61 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Best to start with the presumption you cannot take non-commerically packaged food stuffs ashore in any port, and look for a specific confirmation that you can. Instead of approaching it the other way around. That seems to be the general approach found if you google this topic - get specific permission up front and assume first you cannot. Most other bloggers on other forums say they only take pre-packaged goods ashore just to be safe and prepared up front for the worst case scenario. Sounds like a worry-free plan. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirthdayGirl30 Posted July 30, 2018 #62 Share Posted July 30, 2018 It’s nobody here making these rules. These are well-established government regulations to prevent the spread of disease to both humans and livestock/produce. Try bringing apples into California from Nevada without proper documentation and inspection and just see how it goes. Sent from my iPhone using Forums The person did not even mention their itinerary so how could you possibly know the regulations in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirthdayGirl30 Posted July 30, 2018 #63 Share Posted July 30, 2018 ^^ This is the operative question. I understand how to follow rules and regulations. There are likely actual established regulations, but anyone one this thread saying they are not permitted to take certain things off the ships is merely speculating as the OP never ever mentioned their itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted July 30, 2018 #64 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I understand how to follow rules and regulations. There are likely actual established regulations, but anyone one this thread saying they are not permitted to take certain things off the ships is merely speculating as the OP never ever mentioned their itinerary. I think this might misrepresent this discussion. Most responses were qualified and cautionary. Entirely appropriate, regardless of itinerary. Some were defiant and hostile, I'll grant you that. But most demonstrated reasonable caution unless it can be specifically confirmed it is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratheden Posted July 30, 2018 #65 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just take the pre-made sandwiches from the Lido like we did. They are great sandwiches and no one checks. Apart from the fact that it may be illegal, why would anybody take one of those awful soggy sandwiches, carry them around all morning and then eat them at lunchtime when it would be even more soggy. Sounds a bit desperate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 30, 2018 #66 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I was thinking the same thing. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted July 30, 2018 #67 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Thanks SC. Just curious, I thought it might be fun and save some time. Sent from my iPad using Forums We feel it’s much more fun to avail yourself of the local fare! [emoji39] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted July 30, 2018 #68 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I wouldn't do it first of all because I don't want to break any laws of a foreign country I am visiting as a guest. I also never want to miss one of the fun things of traveling- getting a real taste of how the locals live and food is an important part of that. A cruise ship sandwich while in Paris, Bermuda, or San Juan? I don't think so! Exactly!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted July 31, 2018 #69 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Apart from the fact that it may be illegal, why would anybody take one of those awful soggy sandwiches, carry them around all morning and then eat them at lunchtime when it would be even more soggy. Sounds a bit desperate to me. They’re good sandwiches. Alternatively you can just make one with bread and cheese, both of which are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcorn Posted July 31, 2018 #70 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Sadly it can't be done. But it was a good idea.One time when we knew we were going to spend time at Mendenhall Glacier in Juneau, we stopped at a store not too far from the dock and bought some bread and cheese and took that with us. Maybe you can find a store near your dock and pick up a few items to take with you. It's been a long time since I was at Mendenhall but they used to not allow any food or drink there (except water) because of the bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted July 31, 2018 #71 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Apart from the fact that it may be illegal, why would anybody take one of those awful soggy sandwiches, carry them around all morning and then eat them at lunchtime when it would be even more soggy. Sounds a bit desperate to me. We feel it’s much more fun to avail yourself of the local fare! [emoji39] Not everyone is near a lovely restaurant at lunchtime. I'm apt to be in the midst of a field of ruins, and might be an hour away from any type of town... It's also happened that I've gotten an early start in the morning with a private guide, before shops are open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted July 31, 2018 #72 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not everyone is near a lovely restaurant at lunchtime. I'm apt to be in the midst of a field of ruins, and might be an hour away from any type of town... It's also happened that I've gotten an early start in the morning with a private guide, before shops are open. To each their own! [emoji5] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted July 31, 2018 #73 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Oh I get it, the rules don't apply to that couple... only to everyone else. :groan Of course. They are part of the new 'entitlement' generation. You can break any law you choose if you disagree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted July 31, 2018 #74 Share Posted July 31, 2018 OMG-all this from “can I take a picnic lunch off the ship”! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Welcome to cruise critic where EVERYONE can be a real critic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASIWISH Posted July 31, 2018 #75 Share Posted July 31, 2018 We feel it’s much more fun to avail yourself of the local fare! [emoji39] That is a great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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