GonzoWCS Posted February 28, 2020 #151 Share Posted February 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Cash123 said: For a start be honest with their paying guests, if this problem has been known about since early January and if they know the problem will not be sorted out until the next dry dock then the least they can do is inform all future passengers about this problem and the changes to itinerates including missed ports and timing changes. We have some excursions booked for our cruise next week, some direct with Princess which Im not worried about as im sure they will make adjustments but also have a private tour booked in Barbados and would like to do something in Antigua but as we havnt heard anything from Princess yet im a little worried about sending people deposits without knowing if our time on the island will be cut short. I don't think that's to much to ask. Yes, if you know what you know from a technical aspect why not share it and set reasonable expectations? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted February 28, 2020 #152 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Paula B said: Hi Paul929207 thanks for the info! Could you please tell be the port time they have for St. Lucia? Enjoy your cruise We were there on Feb 22 from 9am to 5pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 28, 2020 #153 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, pablo222 said: Thank you for your always rational posts. What are 'technical' electrical loads? Thanks. Technical load is the load needed to keep the ship generating electricity. For example, the pumps (sea and fresh water cooling pumps, fuel pumps, lube oil pumps, transfer pumps) for the various engines, boilers and auxiliary equipment, along with all of that auxiliary equipment (boilers, fuel and oil purifiers, waste water treatment plant, vacuum toilet system, water makers, steering gear, navigation and communication equipment, automation systems, etc, etc). Basically everything that is not propulsion, thrusters, AC, or hotel (galley, laundry, dining, bars, entertainment, lighting). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFromGrove Posted February 28, 2020 #154 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 1:29 PM, paul929207 said: We are currently on the Crown. We skipped Princess Cays and had some minor schedule changes. Got $75 pp refundable OBC for disruptions It sounds like the generator issues are still on-going, during the current 2/25 sailing. While the Caribbean islands are close by and have minor impacts on the itineraries, the same can not be said for the transatlantic sailing on 3/26. A short time ago, the Crown captain had said he would not take this ship across the Atlantic without the generators fixed. I wonder if you could get the captain to update his position on this issue. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKZ06 Posted February 29, 2020 #155 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, PatFromGrove said: It sounds like the generator issues are still on-going, during the current 2/25 sailing. While the Caribbean islands are close by and have minor impacts on the itineraries, the same can not be said for the transatlantic sailing on 3/26. A short time ago, the Crown captain had said he would not take this ship across the Atlantic without the generators fixed. I wonder if you could get the captain to update his position on this issue. Thank you in advance. We are booked on the 3/26 cruise and have been worried about this since the primary reason we had picked was for the ports of call, not for endless sea days with abbreviated or missed stops... You say that the captain said he would not take the ship across the Atlantic without the generators being fixed. If you don’t mind me asking, where exactly did you hear or read this? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted February 29, 2020 #156 Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAKZ06 said: We are booked on the 3/26 cruise and have been worried about this since the primary reason we had picked was for the ports of call, not for endless sea days with abbreviated or missed stops... You say that the captain said he would not take the ship across the Atlantic without the generators being fixed. If you don’t mind me asking, where exactly did you hear or read this? thanks Between the propulsion issue and now a level 3 travel advisory to not go to Italy I am so very glad I cancelled. Think about getting back into the US after this cruise maybe quarantined for being in Italy not to mention ports may be closed and airlines may not fly. What a mess............... Kathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted February 29, 2020 #157 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Technical load is the load needed to keep the ship generating electricity. For example, the pumps (sea and fresh water cooling pumps, fuel pumps, lube oil pumps, transfer pumps) for the various engines, boilers and auxiliary equipment, along with all of that auxiliary equipment (boilers, fuel and oil purifiers, waste water treatment plant, vacuum toilet system, water makers, steering gear, navigation and communication equipment, automation systems, etc, etc). Basically everything that is not propulsion, thrusters, AC, or hotel (galley, laundry, dining, bars, entertainment, lighting). Thank you for taking the time to reply. If there were a way to give you points here ... like some other forums ... I would do so! Edited February 29, 2020 by pablo222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula B Posted February 29, 2020 #158 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thank you for all the information I really appreciate all the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted February 29, 2020 #159 Share Posted February 29, 2020 20 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Technical load is the load needed to keep the ship generating electricity. For example, the pumps (sea and fresh water cooling pumps, fuel pumps, lube oil pumps, transfer pumps) for the various engines, boilers and auxiliary equipment, along with all of that auxiliary equipment (boilers, fuel and oil purifiers, waste water treatment plant, vacuum toilet system, water makers, steering gear, navigation and communication equipment, automation systems, etc, etc). Basically everything that is not propulsion, thrusters, AC, or hotel (galley, laundry, dining, bars, entertainment, lighting). Thanks for this information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFromGrove Posted February 29, 2020 #160 Share Posted February 29, 2020 13 hours ago, MAKZ06 said: We are booked on the 3/26 cruise and have been worried about this since the primary reason we had picked was for the ports of call, not for endless sea days with abbreviated or missed stops... You say that the captain said he would not take the ship across the Atlantic without the generators being fixed. If you don’t mind me asking, where exactly did you hear or read this? thanks I read a post from someone who was on the Crown in January, and went to an information session with the captain and staff (typically not too many passengers like to attend this type of talks, may be 100 out of 3000). He/she stated the captain made such comment. I have a hard time (spending hours) trying to find that post from thousands of posts I have read from various forums. I will let you know if I can pinpoint it. Given that they have modified the itinerary of the Feb. 25 sailing, it indicates the problem is not fixed at this point. There is one more sailing, March 6, before the transatlantic. We will see if they have to modify that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted February 29, 2020 #161 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, PatFromGrove said: I read a post from someone who was on the Crown in January, and went to an information session with the captain and staff (typically not too many passengers like to attend this type of talks, may be 100 out of 3000). He/she stated the captain made such comment. I have a hard time (spending hours) trying to find that post from thousands of posts I have read from various forums. I will let you know if I can pinpoint it. Given that they have modified the itinerary of the Feb. 25 sailing, it indicates the problem is not fixed at this point. There is one more sailing, March 6, before the transatlantic. We will see if they have to modify that one too. And one more after that on March 16, 2020, 10 Day | Southern Caribbean Medley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFromGrove Posted February 29, 2020 #162 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GonzoWCS said: And one more after that on March 16, 2020, 10 Day | Southern Caribbean Medley That is true. Thanks. We just have to monitor one cruise at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted February 29, 2020 #163 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, PatFromGrove said: That is true. Thanks. We just have to monitor one cruise at a time. Understood we multi-task and are juggling 3 at this time, just keeping the schedules sorted and accurate. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKZ06 Posted February 29, 2020 #164 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, PatFromGrove said: I read a post from someone who was on the Crown in January, and went to an information session with the captain and staff (typically not too many passengers like to attend this type of talks, may be 100 out of 3000). He/she stated the captain made such comment. I have a hard time (spending hours) trying to find that post from thousands of posts I have read from various forums. I will let you know if I can pinpoint it. Given that they have modified the itinerary of the Feb. 25 sailing, it indicates the problem is not fixed at this point. There is one more sailing, March 6, before the transatlantic. We will see if they have to modify that one too. Thank you for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shpur Posted February 29, 2020 #165 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I read in here, that if not fixed they aren’t crossing the Atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted February 29, 2020 #166 Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, shpur said: I read in here, that if not fixed they aren’t crossing the Atlantic Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted February 29, 2020 #167 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, shpur said: I read in here, that if not fixed they aren’t crossing the Atlantic That's most likely speculation by Cruise Critic people. 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted February 29, 2020 #168 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, shpur said: I read in here, that if not fixed they aren’t crossing the Atlantic Can't wait for the 9th post..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted March 1, 2020 #169 Share Posted March 1, 2020 23 hours ago, MissP22 said: That's most likely speculation by Cruise Critic people. 😄 Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneall Posted March 2, 2020 #170 Share Posted March 2, 2020 This was just posted on the TA roll call suggesting the generator problems have been fixed. Any other news or updates from folks on the more recent cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutSyder Posted March 2, 2020 #171 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, goneall said: This was just posted on the TA roll call suggesting the generator problems have been fixed. Any other news or updates from folks on the more recent cruise? I really hope that's true about the generator but I wouldn't want to place a bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyndyga Posted March 3, 2020 #172 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just got A email from Princess and Princess Cay is going to be skipped because of the speed issues also adjusted other port times this is for the March 6 sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneall Posted March 3, 2020 #173 Share Posted March 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, cyndyga said: Just got A email from Princess and Princess Cay is going to be skipped because of the speed issues also adjusted other port times this is for the March 6 sailing Thanks for the update. I got the same update on the TA roll call - looks like they are having generator issues. Darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash123 Posted March 3, 2020 #174 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Same just got our email confirming the itinerary changes, it does make me wonder why some people pass on misleading information ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneall Posted March 3, 2020 #175 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Cash123 said: Same just got our email confirming the itinerary changes, it does make me wonder why some people pass on misleading information ????? I think it was an innocent miss-interpretation of the situation based on no information, and perhaps a bit too much optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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