terrierjohn Posted October 1, 2020 #6501 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, grapau27 said: I agree,we have personally adhered strictly to all the guidelines but If only Boris had reprimanded Cummings people's attitudes would have been different. This is where we disagree Graham I accept that Cummings was wrong. But I don't agree that the party crowds ignoring any sort of social distancing have been influenced by him, they are just hedonists and would have behaved this way regardless. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6502 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: This is where we disagree Graham I accept that Cummings was wrong. But I don't agree that the party crowds ignoring any sort of social distancing have been influenced by him, they are just hedonists and would have behaved this way regardless. Probably that group of individuals would always act that way. It is the 50+ age group who would comply without question who have given up a lot to do the right thing who feel let down by people who think rules don't apply to them and 3 high profile people in the news today have proved this. Edited October 1, 2020 by grapau27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 1, 2020 #6503 Share Posted October 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Probably that group of individuals would always act that way. It is the 50+ age group who would comply without question who have given up a lot to do the right thing who feel let down by people who think rules don't apply to them and 3 high profile people in the news today have proved this. Stanley and Jeremy, but who was the third? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6504 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Vampiress88 said: I’m confused too. Never know what’s going on. Sticking to the house just seems like the best way to keep out of trouble lately I intend to use my own initative and do what I think is best. I'd rather trust myself than someone who's not even on the same planet anymore. All his ''special advisers'' have got him so confused he doesn't know which way is up anymore. Avril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted October 1, 2020 #6505 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, terrierjohn said: Stanley and Jeremy, but who was the third? Margaret Ferrier. Unbelievable. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted October 1, 2020 #6506 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Adawn47 said: I intend to use my own initative and do what I think is best. I'd rather trust myself than someone who's not even on the same planet anymore. All his ''special advisers'' have got him so confused he doesn't know which way is up anymore. Avril I imagine, Avril, he now knows the meaning of the word 'down'. And 'out'. Looking increasingly like yesterday's man, but who's to take over? Sunak? Gove? Hunt? Grayling? Harding? I'd back Grayson Perry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6507 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: Margaret Ferrier. Unbelievable. Danny Kruger about 10 days ago too. Avril Edited October 1, 2020 by Adawn47 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 1, 2020 #6508 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, grapau27 said: It makes concientious people too frightened to go out and mix with friends or family outside because it is contradictory but people like Cummings know it is full of loopholes. It is advisory only not to mix outdoors but up to 6 people can still do this. It’s got to the point where it’s not possible to know all of the restrictions in all of the areas. The only thing we can do is to know what applies to us personally. Where I live, the are lower than average and dropped slightly in the last week, so we still don’t have any additional measures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6509 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: I imagine, Avril, he now knows the meaning of the word 'down'. And 'out'. Looking increasingly like yesterday's man, but who's to take over? Sunak? Gove? Hunt? Grayling? Harding? I'd back Grayson Perry. The artist?? How about Mr Bean? Avril 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 1, 2020 #6510 Share Posted October 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: Margaret Ferrier. Unbelievable. who the heck is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 1, 2020 #6511 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, grapau27 said: I agree,we have personally adhered strictly to all the guidelines but If only Boris had reprimanded Cummings people's attitudes would have been more tolerant of all the lockdown implications. We’ve done everything that’s been asked of us, and will continue to do so, as we want to stop the spread of the virus. At the start of the lockdown, there was very much the feeling that we were all in this together, but Johnson lost the moral authority to tell us what to do with the Cummings incident. Although most people are still adhering to the rules, many people are angry about about Cummings . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 1, 2020 #6512 Share Posted October 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: Margaret Ferrier. Unbelievable. I know. I truly despair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 1, 2020 #6513 Share Posted October 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said: I imagine, Avril, he now knows the meaning of the word 'down'. And 'out'. Looking increasingly like yesterday's man, but who's to take over? Sunak? Gove? Hunt? Grayling? Harding? I'd back Grayson Perry. Once he has secured a deal and we are well and truly outside the EU, then I guess he will be only too happy to go and let Rishi have the reins. He can have his journalist job back then, and be able to afford to pay his alimony and provide for his children. And he will be able to tell us all exactly what he thinks of us, at least in his Times column. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 1, 2020 #6514 Share Posted October 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: Danny Kruger about 10 days ago too. Avril Was he the one on the train without a mask? Good thing he wasn’t on my train, I’d have given him a right earful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6515 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Dermotsgirl said: Was he the one on the train without a mask? Good thing he wasn’t on my train, I’d have given him a right earful! That's right. He even kicked up a fuss because someone had caught him and took a picture. Where are the consequences for his actions. The only one's so far are Corbin who's been fined (no surprise there) and Margaret Ferrier has been suspended. It's definitely a case of ''do as I say, not as I do'' Avril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6516 Share Posted October 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: It’s got to the point where it’s not possible to know all of the restrictions in all of the areas. The only thing we can do is to know what applies to us personally. Where I live, the are lower than average and dropped slightly in the last week, so we still don’t have any additional measures. I agree. We are in a restricted area but can still go out for a meal but now we can't take our niece to the restaurant with us but we can see her outside still and take shopping through for her but have to leave it at her door. We both work predominantly from home and have lovely beaches within 10 minutes drive so we can live relatively Normally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6517 Share Posted October 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: We’ve done everything that’s been asked of us, and will continue to do so, as we want to stop the spread of the virus. At the start of the lockdown, there was very much the feeling that we were all in this together, but Johnson lost the moral authority to tell us what to do with the Cummings incident. Although most people are still adhering to the rules, many people are angry about about Cummings . I Absolutely agree. Cummings explanation was a joke with no apology and Boris condoning him meant we lost a lot of respect for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare P&O SUE Posted October 1, 2020 #6518 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, SarahHben said: Thank you, not quite a cruise but at least we'll have a balcony and a sea view I’m not packing until I finish work at 4pm tomorrow but we have loads of clothes out in my spare room/ temporary office ready. I hate packing for all different weathers. The weather looks dreadful for the journey down 😒 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6519 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, P&O SUE said: I’m not packing until I finish work at 4pm tomorrow but we have loads of clothes out in my spare room/ temporary office ready. I hate packing for all different weathers. The weather looks dreadful for the journey down 😒 Take care tomorrow on your journey. I hope you have a nice holiday. Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6520 Share Posted October 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: who the heck is she? She's an SNP MP who travelled from Scotland to London even though she didn't feel well and had a covid test done. She spoke in parliment and then recieved a positive covid result. She then boarded a train the next day and travelled all the wat back to Scotland. Very responsible I don't think. Avril 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 1, 2020 #6521 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, grapau27 said: I Absolutely agree. Cummings explanation was a joke with no apology and Boris condoning him meant we lost a lot of respect for him. The most annoying thing for me was that they assumed we were so stupid and guillible that we would actually believe it, and if we had the audacity to question it we were ignored. Avril 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6522 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: She's an SNP MP who travelled from Scotland to London even though she didn't feel well and had a covid test done. She spoke in parliment and then recieved a positive covid result. She then boarded a train the next day and travelled all the wat back to Scotland. Very responsible I don't think. Avril At least Nicola Sturgeon has condemned her. It was unlawful and selfish what that SNP MP did and another one who thinks rules don't apply to her. Graham. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6523 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: The most annoying thing for me was that they assumed we were so stupid and guillible that we would actually believe it, and if we had the audacity to question it we were ignored. Avril It was contempt and arrogance by the pair of them and I was a supporter of them both before this but not now. Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare P&O SUE Posted October 1, 2020 #6524 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Take care tomorrow on your journey. I hope you have a nice holiday. Graham. Thanks Graham. I’m not the driver but I find motorways very stressful with all the lorries, add in heavy rain and I’m going to have tense legs!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 1, 2020 #6525 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, P&O SUE said: Thanks Graham. I’m not the driver but I find motorways very stressful with all the lorries, add in heavy rain and I’m going to have tense legs!! Pauline is the same as a passenger,it's not so bad for me as the driver but being a Rep most of my life I am used to driving long distances every day. Give yourselves plenty of time and drive carefully, hopefully you might miss rush hour and the worst of the rain. Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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