BigAl94 Posted August 29, 2020 #326 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Viking Sun left Belfast at 8.00am this morning after 3 months lay up, destination shown as Mukran Germany for further lay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 29, 2020 #327 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Will be interesting to see if the Viking Star is still docked at Mukran when the Sun arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukefan Posted August 29, 2020 Author #328 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) On 8/22/2020 at 11:33 PM, Heidi13 said: I believe the only Viking ship to have completed the 1st Special Survey/Drydock is the Star. In wet deck they can't complete any of the tasks that require drydocking, so only painting, hotel work and other minor work can be completed. I understand from this post that the Viking Star has had its 1st Special Survey/Drydock. Are the Viking Sea and Viking Sky the next two ships scheduled for this work? I know that the Viking Sun was built the same year as the Viking Sky but I don't know which is oldest. If the Sea & Sky are the next ships scheduled for this work, could it be the reason they are still at Harland & Wolff. Also, how long does the Drydock part of this work require? Would it make sense to wait until the last minute to do this work before they actually start cruising again? Edited August 29, 2020 by Dukefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deec Posted August 29, 2020 #329 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Sky is older than Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted August 29, 2020 #330 Share Posted August 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, deec said: Sky is older than Sun Haha, that old rust bucket....🍸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Clay Clayton Posted August 29, 2020 #331 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Avery said: Haha, that old rust bucket....🍸 Hey, I resemble that remark 🥃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 30, 2020 #332 Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Dukefan said: I understand from this post that the Viking Star has had its 1st Special Survey/Drydock. Are the Viking Sea and Viking Sky the next two ships scheduled for this work? I know that the Viking Sun was built the same year as the Viking Sky but I don't know which is oldest. If the Sea & Sky are the next ships scheduled for this work, could it be the reason they are still at Harland & Wolff. Also, how long does the Drydock part of this work require? Would it make sense to wait until the last minute to do this work before they actually start cruising again? Affirmative, the sequence was Star, Sea, Sky & Sun. The drydock schedule depends on the labour available, hours of work and scope of work. I've never completed a 1st special survey, so not certain on the scope of work. We pulled shafts every 10 yrs and rudders/hubs every 5 yrs. I have seen rudders, hubs & shafts pulled and re-installed in as little as 9 days on the P&O/Princess ships, but locally we normally spent almost 3 weeks on the blocks. Drydock bookings are often made many years in advance. We drydocked twice every 5 years and had at least the next 2 dockings booked and confirmed. Many drydocks are fully booked years out, so not too many opportunities to vary the dates. Although H&W may be the exception, as the Stena ship was due to return to service Aug 17th, but she is still on the blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukefan Posted August 30, 2020 Author #333 Share Posted August 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Heidi13 said: Affirmative, the sequence was Star, Sea, Sky & Sun. The drydock schedule depends on the labour available, hours of work and scope of work. I've never completed a 1st special survey, so not certain on the scope of work. We pulled shafts every 10 yrs and rudders/hubs every 5 yrs. I have seen rudders, hubs & shafts pulled and re-installed in as little as 9 days on the P&O/Princess ships, but locally we normally spent almost 3 weeks on the blocks. Drydock bookings are often made many years in advance. We drydocked twice every 5 years and had at least the next 2 dockings booked and confirmed. Many drydocks are fully booked years out, so not too many opportunities to vary the dates. Although H&W may be the exception, as the Stena ship was due to return to service Aug 17th, but she is still on the blocks. Thanks. I was curious if the Sea & Sky were waiting around H&W for a drydock opportunity. It would seem little a good move at this time and would delete the need in 2021-2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 30, 2020 #334 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The one I am watching with interest is Orion. After weeks of steaming at a couple of knots, she has probably topped-off with bunkers in Singapore and has left Malacca Straits. Last time I checked, her AIS still shows a Malaysian port on Sept 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 30, 2020 #335 Share Posted August 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Dukefan said: Thanks. I was curious if the Sea & Sky were waiting around H&W for a drydock opportunity. It would seem little a good move at this time and would delete the need in 2021-2022. Unfortunately, you don't get advanced credit for doing statutory inspections early. They could do a shipyard period now, and get work done, but they still would have to drydock the ship within the 6 month window (3 months either side) around the 5 year anniversary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 30, 2020 #336 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 12:34 PM, Dukefan said: I understand from this post that the Viking Star has had its 1st Special Survey/Drydock The "Special Survey" is the survey done every 5 years, so the 1st Special is just the first 5 year drydocking inspection. There are a number of inspections and certificates that are issued at each survey, some annually, some at the mid-period of the 5 year Special Survey interval (Intermediate Certificates), and some at the 5 year period. Some of the 5 year certificates require the same inspections regardless of how old the ship is, but the Special Surveys increase in detail the older the ship gets. The 3rd Special is a turning point, as after this, the ship can no longer use an underwater (diver) survey in lieu of the intermediate drydocking, and the ship will need to dock twice in 5 years, and the amount of ultrasonic and x-ray testing of structural steel and welds goes way up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukefan Posted August 30, 2020 Author #337 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Heidi13 said: The one I am watching with interest is Orion. After weeks of steaming at a couple of knots, she has probably topped-off with bunkers in Singapore and has left Malacca Straits. Last time I checked, her AIS still shows a Malaysian port on Sept 12th. She appears to be headed to India where we think she dropped off crew a couple of months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukefan Posted August 30, 2020 Author #338 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: The "Special Survey" is the survey done every 5 years, so the 1st Special is just the first 5 year drydocking inspection. There are a number of inspections and certificates that are issued at each survey, some annually, some at the mid-period of the 5 year Special Survey interval (Intermediate Certificates), and some at the 5 year period. Some of the 5 year certificates require the same inspections regardless of how old the ship is, but the Special Surveys increase in detail the older the ship gets. The 3rd Special is a turning point, as after this, the ship can no longer use an underwater (diver) survey in lieu of the intermediate drydocking, and the ship will need to dock twice in 5 years, and the amount of ultrasonic and x-ray testing of structural steel and welds goes way up. Thanks, this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeriGail Posted August 30, 2020 #339 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: The "Special Survey" is the survey done every 5 years, so the 1st Special is just the first 5 year drydocking inspection. There are a number of inspections and certificates that are issued at each survey, some annually, some at the mid-period of the 5 year Special Survey interval (Intermediate Certificates), and some at the 5 year period. Some of the 5 year certificates require the same inspections regardless of how old the ship is, but the Special Surveys increase in detail the older the ship gets. The 3rd Special is a turning point, as after this, the ship can no longer use an underwater (diver) survey in lieu of the intermediate drydocking, and the ship will need to dock twice in 5 years, and the amount of ultrasonic and x-ray testing of structural steel and welds goes way up. I was wondering what date they use for the initial point in the five years - launch date? Maiden voyage date? Sea's launch date is June 2015, but the first voyage was April 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 30, 2020 #340 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, JeriGail said: I was wondering what date they use for the initial point in the five years - launch date? Maiden voyage date? Sea's launch date is June 2015, but the first voyage was April 2016. Typically, it is the delivery date, when the ownership of the vessel is transferred from the shipyard to the shipping line. That is the day that the check with all the zeros is handed over, and class will date all documents from that date. Sea's delivery date was 24 Mar 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 31, 2020 #341 Share Posted August 31, 2020 20 hours ago, Dukefan said: She appears to be headed to India where we think she dropped off crew a couple of months ago. Once she clears Galle, what course she sets may indicate where she is bound - India, Red Sea or Persian Gulf. Since Viking have shut everything down to 2021, she might even be joining her sisters in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeriGail Posted September 1, 2020 #342 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The Sun has anchored at the Goteborg anchorage, but still has Mukran as its destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted September 1, 2020 #343 Share Posted September 1, 2020 12 hours ago, JeriGail said: The Sun has anchored at the Goteborg anchorage, but still has Mukran as its destination. The Sun has weighed anchor and is again underway to Mukran. Orion made a brief stop at Galle, just drifting for a few hours, and is also underway again. Don't see an updated destination in the AIS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted September 2, 2020 #344 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just watching Viking Orion and unless she is giving the south coast of India a wide berth, it looks like she is bound for the Red Sea and Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted September 2, 2020 #345 Share Posted September 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: Just watching Viking Orion and unless she is giving the south coast of India a wide berth, it looks like she is bound for the Red Sea and Europe. That seems kind of strange considering that Orion is scheduled for SE Asia when she resumes cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted September 2, 2020 #346 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Peregrina651 said: That seems kind of strange considering that Orion is scheduled for SE Asia when she resumes cruising. That's what I thought, expecting her to continue in the vicinity of Singapore, which has reasonable bunker prices. Should have a better idea tomorrow morning, if she is heading up the Indian coast, or setting courses across the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukefan Posted September 2, 2020 Author #347 Share Posted September 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Heidi13 said: That's what I thought, expecting her to continue in the vicinity of Singapore, which has reasonable bunker prices. Should have a better idea tomorrow morning, if she is heading up the Indian coast, or setting courses across the pond. 19 hours ago, Heidi13 said: That's what I thought, expecting her to continue in the vicinity of Singapore, which has reasonable bunker prices. Should have a better idea tomorrow morning, if she is heading up the Indian coast, or setting courses across the pond. It sure appears now as if the Orion is headed toward the Suez Canal & to Europe to join her sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted September 3, 2020 #348 Share Posted September 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Dukefan said: It sure appears now as if the Orion is headed toward the Suez Canal & to Europe to join her sisters. Affirmative, she has now cleared the Maldives and while she could possibly alter North to the Persian Gulf, but I'm thinking she is bound for "Pirate Alley" and the Red Sea. Remember the brief stop at Galle, without docking or anchoring, this is potentially a clue to being bound for the Red Sea approaches. Expect to see the speed increase as she approaches the horn of Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted September 3, 2020 #349 Share Posted September 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: Affirmative, she has now cleared the Maldives and while she could possibly alter North to the Persian Gulf, but I'm thinking she is bound for "Pirate Alley" and the Red Sea. Remember the brief stop at Galle, without docking or anchoring, this is potentially a clue to being bound for the Red Sea approaches. Expect to see the speed increase as she approaches the horn of Africa. Aaaaarrrrrrgggghhh! Full speed ahead and d@mn the small boats........ A Platoon of Marines with live rounds would end the pirate dream of hijacking a passenger ship forever...😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted September 4, 2020 #350 Share Posted September 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Jim Avery said: Aaaaarrrrrrgggghhh! Full speed ahead and d@mn the small boats........ A Platoon of Marines with live rounds would end the pirate dream of hijacking a passenger ship forever...😎 So true Jim. Put a few Royal Marines, SAS or SBS on each ship and the pirate business would have deadly consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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