SVBing Posted November 29, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Curious..... still showing January itineraries? S America still pretty closed down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 29, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Argentina has said it is not opening to outside visitors until 3/21 at the earliest. Chile is also remaining shutdown. That alone pretty well eliminates the SA cruises for the season. It is highly doubtful that Oceania would go through the CDC hassles and bring the Marina back from Europe for TA back to Europe. Expect sailing to resume on the Marina in Europe sometime in the summer . Next issue is that Oceania has advertised and sold cruises longer than seven (7) days which currently surpasses EU guidelines. Therefore, the greater question for the Marina’s return to duty is whether Oceania will wait until mass vaccinations have occurred, and EU lifts the 7 day bans; or will they cancel all those currently advertised cruises and rebook cruises = or < 7 days so to resume sailing earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted November 29, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, SVBing said: Curious..... still showing January itineraries? S America still pretty closed down... As has been posted on the CC Oceania forums, Oceania reports its cancellations at the turn of each month for the cruises at least one month out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesGal Posted November 29, 2020 #4 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Hopefully my June 25 Norway will be cruising. Luckily, neither Norway nor England are members of the EU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted November 30, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 30, 2020 NCL has said no sailing till April..2021 ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 30, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I have a 10 day Baltic on Marina Aug. 29. If it is changed to a 7 day I am not interested, I will cancel. I am not interested in flying all the way to Europe for a 7 day cruise. Plus all my flight arrangements would be messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted November 30, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, susiesan said: I have a 10 day Baltic on Marina Aug. 29. If it is changed to a 7 day I am not interested, I will cancel. I am not interested in flying all the way to Europe for a 7 day cruise. Plus all my flight arrangements would be messed up. Why would it change to 7 days? That cruise is not restricted by the CDC edict involving US ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 30, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Why would it change to 7 days? That cruise is not restricted by the CDC edict involving US ports. The EU likewise has a seven day limit on cruises. In fact, that is probably where the CDC got the idea from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 30, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Why would it change to 7 days? That cruise is not restricted by the CDC edict involving US ports. Europe has the same limit on cruise lengths, 7 days only, at this point. That could change IF cruises resume there in the spring or summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted November 30, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, susiesan said: Europe has the same limit on cruise lengths, 7 days only, at this point. That could change IF cruises resume there in the spring or summer. I learn something new every day. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 30, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, GeorgesGal said: Hopefully my June 25 Norway will be cruising. Luckily, neither Norway nor England are members of the EU! But they still have Covid 😷 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesGal Posted November 30, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, LHT28 said: But they still have Covid 😷 Norway's numbers are quite low; England, on the other hand, is very high! If they remain that way, we will forego our side trip to London and go straight to Heathrow from S'hampton for our flights home. As I stated above, neither Norway nor England are part of the EU, so the seven day rule doesn't apply to our cruise. Donna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 30, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GeorgesGal said: Norway's numbers are quite low; England, on the other hand, is very high! If they remain that way, we will forego our side trip to London and go straight to Heathrow from S'hampton for our flights home. As I stated above, neither Norway nor England are part of the EU, so the seven day rule doesn't apply to our cruise. Donna You missed my point Will ships be sailing from those Countries allow Americans onboard ? Until the virus numbers are low or non existent I cannot see them allowing people from other Countries to enter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 30, 2020 #14 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, LHT28 said: You missed my point Will ships be sailing from those Countries allow Americans onboard ? Until the virus numbers are low or non existent I cannot see them allowing people from other Countries to enter Or have been vaccinated! Once the vaccine is readily available, Most of the world, maybe except Canada, is not going to wait “until the numbers are low ( however that is defined) or non existent “ before they reopen their economy and allow vaccinated tourists to return. If they have been vaccinated they’ll be allowed in. Those vaccinated will not be a potential burden on the host country’s healthcare system. It will be years, if ever, before the Covid virus is non existent because there will be some that refuse to be vaccinated. We still see occasional outbreaks of the measles and chicken pox because of the Anti-vaxers . Not even those viruses are non existent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted November 30, 2020 #15 Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, pinotlover said: It will be years, if ever, before the Covid virus is non existent because there will be some that refuse to be vaccinated. Darwin should take care of that problem - they will either get it and survive with antibodies (like from the vaccine) or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlover12 Posted November 30, 2020 #16 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I agree that no cruise line is going to allow anyone onboard who has not been vaccinated. I would be shocked if they did. Doesn't matter if the country of embarkation is EU or non-EU, North America, wherever. The vaccinations are shown to have high efficacy rates so everyone who wants to travel is going to have to be vaccinated. Reports are that the vaccinations will be available to the general public in mid-2021 so I wouldn't count on any cruise happening before then. I've already changed my next cruise from March 2021 to March 2022. The same might be true if you want to board an airplane. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesGal Posted November 30, 2020 #17 Share Posted November 30, 2020 pinotlover and sunlover12, Thanks. I did forget to mention the vaccine, which I shall be getting as soon as available. Donna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted November 30, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, pinotlover said: If they have been vaccinated they’ll be allowed in. Those vaccinated will not be a potential burden on the host country’s healthcare system. Do the vaccines that are about to be deployed protect the person from getting Covid and passing it on to others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basor Posted November 30, 2020 #19 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 9:06 AM, pinotlover said: Argentina has said it is not opening to outside visitors until 3/21 at the earliest. Chile is also remaining shutdown. That alone pretty well eliminates the SA cruises for the season. It is highly doubtful that Oceania would go through the CDC hassles and bring the Marina back from Europe for TA back to Europe. Expect sailing to resume on the Marina in Europe sometime in the summer . Next issue is that Oceania has advertised and sold cruises longer than seven (7) days which currently surpasses EU guidelines. Therefore, the greater question for the Marina’s return to duty is whether Oceania will wait until mass vaccinations have occurred, and EU lifts the 7 day bans; or will they cancel all those currently advertised cruises and rebook cruises = or < 7 days so to resume sailing earlier? Could you please provide a link concerning Argentina not opening to outside visitors until 3/21 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted November 30, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tranquility Base said: Do the vaccines that are about to be deployed protect the person from getting Covid and passing it on to others ? By definition not entirely. They are around 94 - 95% effective. That means that up to 6 out 100 will/can get the Virus but the illness will not be as severe as without the vaccine. These people presumably can pass the virus on to others. Not sure about the 94% but it's a good question. Edited November 30, 2020 by Paulchili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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