Carnival Shareholders OBC

[BlerkOne]

26 minutes ago, Illbcruzn4life said:

what cruiseline charges tips in GBP?

 

Are you actually typing that with a straight face? How can anyone stay on topic when you constantly change the topic? I am picturing you posting like this.🤪

Tips? Yet another off topic diversion tactic. You are also disqualified.

[Colorado Beach Bum]

On 11/24/2021 at 3:31 PM, barbatkins said:

I bought CCL stock in the late 90s and have cruised with them 45 times…and have never been denied the stockholder credit in all those years…including free cruises……until NOW!  
 

cruising next week and I was denied this time….. I have 2 more CCL cruises booked for next year…BUT if it’s denied…

 

that will definitely be the end of my cruising them…..I’m top tier on NCL, RCCL, MSC and they all give perks every cruise….plus have ,less smoking on their ships….

 

without stockholder obc…..total no brainer

Not to add fuel to this fire but its my experience (attending multiple board meetings for Fortune 500 companies) that the board mostly is there to advise and maybe approve programs, ideas, compensation, etc. The way this conversation is going sounds as if the board is working 60 hours a week managing the company which is not true. The leadership team of corporate officers does. 
 

and by the way, what was the point of this thread?

[BlerkOne]

2 minutes ago, Colorado Beach Bum said:

Not to add fuel to this fire but its my experience (attending multiple board meetings for Fortune 500 companies) that the board mostly is there to advise and maybe approve programs, ideas, compensation, etc. The way this conversation is going sounds as if the board is working 60 hours a week managing the company which is not true. The leadership team of corporate officers does. 
 

and by the way, what was the point of this thread?

No competent corporate board micromanages operations.

[farjar]

On 11/28/2021 at 4:48 AM, hmwende said:

I am a shareholder and never knew about getting OBC. How does one go about asking for this?

Go on Google and search: Shareholder Benefit - Carnival Corporation

 

There is a letter explaining how much OBC is given depending on the length of the cruise ( a 7-13 day cruise gets $100, 14+ days gets $250).  It also gives the different addresses, emails addresses and fax numbers where to send the required information for all the Carnival cruise brands. Sorry I can't post the link but I'm technologically challenged".

[ontheweb]

4 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

No competent corporate board micromanages operations.

But, they do set overall policy. And the shareholder OBC is passed every year by the Carnival Corporation Board.

[Illbcruzn4life]

9 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

Tips? Yet another off topic diversion tactic. You are also disqualified.

OK I meant OBC.

[Illbcruzn4life]

9 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

No competent corporate board micromanages operations.

 

Isn't that what Colorado Beach Bum just said ? Your disqualified.

 

Almost as funny as you quoting and replying to your own post the other day.

 

Reading all this I feel like I am watching the show the apprentice. "You're Fired!"

[ontheweb]

14 hours ago, Colorado Beach Bum said:

Not to add fuel to this fire but its my experience (attending multiple board meetings for Fortune 500 companies) that the board mostly is there to advise and maybe approve programs, ideas, compensation, etc. The way this conversation is going sounds as if the board is working 60 hours a week managing the company which is not true. The leadership team of corporate officers does. 
 

and by the way, what was the point of this thread?

The corporate board passes the resolution to have stockholders qualify for OBC. This is done as a marketing tool to encourage bookings. Turning down requests for the OBC does the exact opposite of the policy goal. It can only alienate a loyal customer from booking again with the cruise line.  This thread has already had one poster who said he was turned down, and that will be the last time he books a Carnival cruise.

[UpstateCruizer]

On 11/24/2021 at 1:40 PM, BlerkOne said:

Good luck with that. Maybe they will just terminate the program.

Basically that’s what they have done in a less obvious way. I highly doubt anyone that has cruised previously is going to willingly pay a higher fare to cruise just to be able to get the shareholder OBC. By implementing enforcement of this “rule” they don’t have to publicly announce they ended the program. First time cruisers will benefit from it. I can totally understand certain promotions being excluded but I’ve never received one of those “killer deals” however I’ve really enjoyed the shareholder OBC. 

[ontheweb]

12 minutes ago, UpstateCruizer said:

Basically that’s what they have done in a less obvious way. I highly doubt anyone that has cruised previously is going to willingly pay a higher fare to cruise just to be able to get the shareholder OBC. By implementing enforcement of this “rule” they don’t have to publicly announce they ended the program. First time cruisers will benefit from it. I can totally understand certain promotions being excluded but I’ve never received one of those “killer deals” however I’ve really enjoyed the shareholder OBC. 

Yes, but there are several lines owned by the Carnival Corporation, and carnival seems to be the only one that has effectively killed it. You will not see the same complaints on the Princess of Holland America boards on cc. (Only the occasional I had a $25 fare and did not get the OBC, but that is ok.)

[jl528300]

Hello, I currently have a VIFP rate that wouldnt make me eligible for stockholder OBC.

 

If I switch to the black friday promo, which would make my fare $40 cheaper and then apply for OBC, I would think it would be approved as you do not need to be VIFP for that.

What happens once the OBC is applied to my cruise manager if i find a cheaper rate and it is repriced. Is the OBC then looked at again and would be taken away if it is a VIFP rate in the future?

[firefly333]

4 minutes ago, jl528300 said:

Hello, I currently have a VIFP rate that wouldnt make me eligible for stockholder OBC.

 

If I switch to the black friday promo, which would make my fare $40 cheaper and then apply for OBC, I would think it would be approved as you do not need to be VIFP for that.

What happens once the OBC is applied to my cruise manager if i find a cheaper rate and it is repriced. Is the OBC then looked at again and would be taken away if it is a VIFP rate in the future?

Idk but I have read posts where someone had the obc and it disappeared. It is possible for it to be withdrawn.

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, UpstateCruizer said:

Basically that’s what they have done in a less obvious way. I highly doubt anyone that has cruised previously is going to willingly pay a higher fare to cruise just to be able to get the shareholder OBC. By implementing enforcement of this “rule” they don’t have to publicly announce they ended the program. First time cruisers will benefit from it. I can totally understand certain promotions being excluded but I’ve never received one of those “killer deals” however I’ve really enjoyed the shareholder OBC. 

All they are doing is enforcing rules that have always been there. As with the dividend, it is simply a pause.

 

I am far from a first time cruise and have received the OBC 3 times this year and am approved for a 4th time on a cruise in a few weeks. Not once, as in never have I paid full fare.

 

We have seen time and again of cruisers who threaten to leave Carnival, sell stock, whatever, over the most inane reasons. Most never do. The customer isn't always right, quite often is wrong, and frankly Carnival should fire some. Carnival doesn't need them.

[BlerkOne]

31 minutes ago, jl528300 said:

Hello, I currently have a VIFP rate that wouldnt make me eligible for stockholder OBC.

 

If I switch to the black friday promo, which would make my fare $40 cheaper and then apply for OBC, I would think it would be approved as you do not need to be VIFP for that.

What happens once the OBC is applied to my cruise manager if i find a cheaper rate and it is repriced. Is the OBC then looked at again and would be taken away if it is a VIFP rate in the future?

Every time you open a booking it gets repriced. 

[BlerkOne]

3 hours ago, 1stin71 said:

So this morning I set up a brand new Carnival account to see what happens.

Immediately, the moment I logged in I had a $99 casino rate with $50 gambling money

plus free drinks while playing in the casino. That $99 was for the 7-day Panorama cruise.

 

Someone please explain this to me.

Run don't walk to buy a lottery ticket. And you might as well apply for shareholder OBC.

[BlerkOne]

18 hours ago, 1stin71 said:

 

I actually booked a cruise Sunday night and applied for shareholder benefit yesterday, less than an hour later it was applied. I will try to upload my email exchange with Carnival.

I booked this under my wife's VIFP offer, she always seems to get the better deals. 

Then this morning the system allowed me to set up a second account for myself and sure enough the moment I logged in, I had a bunch of VIFP offers (with no cruising history under my new number) including that $99 Panorama 7-day cruise. We may very well add it as a back to back to the one that we booked yesterday.

Carnival, much like the Good Lord, works in mysterious ways, buy hey, I ain't complaining. 

Cheers!

 

One issue going forward might be the T&C of the VIFP program

CCL reserves the right to audit any Member’s Account at any time. CCL reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to discontinue participation for any Member who acts or is reasonably suspected of acting in any manner which is inconsistent with or violates these Terms and Conditions or any portion of the Club. CCL also reserves the right to discontinue participation for any Member who (i) acts or is reasonably suspected of acting in a fraudulent, dishonest or improper manner in connection with the Club; (ii) acts in a manner that is deemed detrimental to the Club or CCL, as determined by CCL in its sole discretion; or (iii) is ejected from any CCL cruise for any reason; or (iv) is in breach of the terms of CCL’s Ticket Contract, as determined by CCL in its sole discretion. CCL’s termination in a Member’s membership will result in immediate forfeiture of all VIFP Points accumulated. CCL’s decisions and interpretations of these Terms and Conditions shall be within CCL’s sole discretion and are final and binding. Members are responsible for remaining knowledgeable as to the Terms and Conditions. CCL is not responsible for incorrect or inaccurate transmission of information regarding the Club, or problems related to any of the equipment or programming associated with the Club.

[ninjacat123]

Anyone buying more Carnival shares?  Right now at $16.77.

[ninjacat123]

On 12/1/2021 at 3:01 PM, 1stin71 said:

I think 1,097 shares is enough for us!

Although we got in when it was $1.52 back in 1990 so even at $16, I ain't complaining.

Wow!!  I never knew it went that low.

[Mistyhon]

Can someone direct me to the link to submit shareholder credit? This will be my first time trying since buying. 

[Mistyhon]

4 hours ago, 1stin71 said:

 

CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE

Guest Administration

3655 N.W. 87th Avenue Miami,

FL 33178

Tel 800 438 6744 ext. 70450

Fax 305 406 6102

 

You can submit online via email: shareholders@carnival.com

 

Please provide by email, fax or by mail your complete legal name, reservation/booking number, ship and sailing date, along with proof of ownership of Carnival Corporation or Carnival plc shares (for example, photocopy of shareholder proxy card, a dividend tax voucher or a current brokerage or nominee statement with your current mailing address and your brokerage account number blacked out) no later than 3 weeks prior to your sail date to your travel agent or to the cruise line.

Thanks so much!! 🙂 

[rempo]

Yet another data point.

 

Brand new to cruising with Carnival.  Created a VIFP number and purchased a cruise with a VIFP offer (can't seem to find the exact code anywhere now).  Denied the shareholder OBC with the form letter "... reservations with a reduced rate promotion do not qualify for the onboard credit..."

[BlerkOne]

41 minutes ago, rempo said:

Yet another data point.

 

Brand new to cruising with Carnival.  Created a VIFP number and purchased a cruise with a VIFP offer (can't seem to find the exact code anywhere now).  Denied the shareholder OBC with the form letter "... reservations with a reduced rate promotion do not qualify for the onboard credit..."

and apparently created a new CC account. Impressive.

[rempo]

21 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

and apparently created a new CC account. Impressive.

I lurked heavily when planning our March 2020 cruise that got canceled!

[guxu]

Having cruised with Carnival 10+ times, I did not know the shareholder OBC could be denied. But I think it makes sense because my next cruise price is $50 for a 5-day cruise (we paid little more to get a better cabin). That's $50 per person total, not $50 per person per day. 

[farjar]

7 hours ago, rempo said:

Yet another data point.

 

Brand new to cruising with Carnival.  Created a VIFP number and purchased a cruise with a VIFP offer (can't seem to find the exact code anywhere now).  Denied the shareholder OBC with the form letter "... reservations with a reduced rate promotion do not qualify for the onboard credit..."

After reading these posts about shareholder OBC being denied for cruises with a VIFP offer I called Carnival and the representative told me we would still get out $250 OBC for our 16 day cruise later this year.  I certainly hope so.