Freedom just denied entry into St kitts

[hawgndodge]

Crew positive cases, asymptomatic, preventing St kitts from allowing ship to dock. 

 

So 2 sea days to Antigua, now 2 sea days to hopefully grand Turk. 

[MeganGC1983]

Wow! 

[pe4all]

Unfortunately I have a feeling more and more islands will be "banning" any ship that has covid on it - and at this point in time pretty much every ship does have it.

[Guest BasicSailor]

That has to be putting a strain on the healthy crew. Thanks for the update.

[Drazil65]

Yes, thank you for update.  Can't blame them, a covid outbreak on those small islands would be devastating for them at best.  

[Elaine5715]

50 minutes ago, Drazil65 said:

Yes, thank you for update.  Can't blame them, a covid outbreak on those small islands would be devastating for them at best.  

They do have COVID there and no tourist money means fewer ways to pay for health care

[BlerkOne]

6 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said:

They do have COVID there and no tourist money means fewer ways to pay for health care

 

Any covid on the islands didn't swim there. They need to stop importing disease, including new variants.  In most of December, St Kitts and Nevis averaged 1 new case a week - then came Christmas and spreading. Look at what the tourist money caused.

[Guest BasicSailor]

19 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

Any covid on the islands didn't swim there. They need to stop importing disease, including new variants.  In most of December, St Kitts and Nevis averaged 1 new case a week - then came Christmas and spreading. Look at what the tourist money caused.

That's a fireball comment in itself when it's related to cruising.

[BlerkOne]

2 minutes ago, BasicSailor said:

That's a fireball comment in itself when it's related to cruising.

[Guest BasicSailor]

7 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by BasicSailor

[NutsAboutGolf]

All ports have covid thresholds, reportedly if 1% are infected (includes crew and pax), ports will deny letting people off the port.  While the rumor mill is running wild that cruiselines are under reporting infections for this reason, RCL has found a creative solution.  They make the crew that test positive get off at a port only to be later picked up by a passenger-less ship that dedicated to quarantining crew members who test positive. 

[BlerkOne]

3 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

All ports have covid thresholds, reportedly if 1% are infected (includes crew and pax), ports will deny letting people off the port.  While the rumor mill is running wild that cruiselines are under reporting infections for this reason, RCL has found a creative solution.  They make the crew that test positive get off at a port only to be later picked up by a passenger-less ship that dedicated to quarantining crew members who test positive. 

By law, cruise lines have to report cases to the CDC. 

 

If RCL is doing that, the crew still has to be replaced, and they should run into quarantine restrictions when adding crew back to a ship.

[cruizinisthebest]

Ships are doing a good job, and I'm totally not in favor of them pausing again. But it may be the lack of ports that stops cruising this time. Freedom has really caught it too! 

[cruisingguy007]

2 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

 

That'll make you "toss the cookies" for sure, even has a picture to warn you with the guy on front tossing his cookies. 😄 

[NutsAboutGolf]

5 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

By law, cruise lines have to report cases to the CDC. 

 

If RCL is doing that, the crew still has to be replaced, and they should run into quarantine restrictions when adding crew back to a ship.

 

You'd hope that cruise lines would always follow the law but this hasn't been the case

[Bgcruising]

We are still having a good time on the freedom. They said we may stop at another port tomorrow or Saturday, but we shall see. So many passengers in the theatre without masks, the pools packed, no wonder people are leaving sick. The cruise line is doing what they can, but it takes cooperation from passengers too to mask up.

[BlerkOne]

32 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

 

You'd hope that cruise lines would always follow the law but this hasn't been the case

That is true, but they are really under a microscope now

[Guest BasicSailor]

52 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

By law, cruise lines have to report cases to the CDC. 

 

If RCL is doing that, the crew still has to be replaced, and they should run into quarantine restrictions when adding crew back to a ship.

What law is that? Captains at sea? US of A. Foreign Ports.  Are they reporting each case? Or is it probable to report each case.

[Javajitterz]

59 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

By law, cruise lines have to report cases to the CDC. 

 

If RCL is doing that, the crew still has to be replaced, and they should run into quarantine restrictions when adding crew back to a ship.

Go read the CDC guidance...cruise ships leaving FLORIDA are opting in,they are NOT mandated. Thank DeSantis for that one

[Javajitterz]

3 minutes ago, BasicSailor said:

What law is that? Captains at sea? US of A. Foreign Ports.  Are they reporting each case? Or is it probable to report each case.

 

4 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

That is true, but they are really under a microscope now

CDC reporting is only for ships in US waters. Doesn't count if the plague ship stays out of US waters, that's how RCL is getting away with dumping positive crew onto quarantine ships

[Guest BasicSailor]

3 minutes ago, Javajitterz said:

 

CDC reporting is only for ships in US waters. Doesn't count if the plague ship stays out of US waters, that's how RCL is getting away with dumping positive crew onto quarantine ships

 Someone said Carnival Sensation was doing this as well,?

[Elaine5715]

4 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

 

Any covid on the islands didn't swim there. They need to stop importing disease, including new variants.  In most of December, St Kitts and Nevis averaged 1 new case a week - then came Christmas and spreading. Look at what the tourist money caused.

According to the celerity Instagrams, Nevis is a favorite for rich celebrities  who frequent fancy homes, staffed with locals.  Betcha that is greater source than cruisers who have limited contact.

[NutsAboutGolf]

39 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

That is true, but they are really under a microscope now

 

They were fined $40M in 2016 for the "magic pipe" illegal dumping, the only reason they were caught (they had been falsifying documents) was because of a whistle blower.  Despite that fine and being on probation they continued to falsify documentation and got caught again for illegal dumping and were fined an addition $20M in 2019.  Makes you wonder what else they've been doing.

 

Various reports from the crew, when ship officers are announcing to passenger there are only 0-10 people who tested positive, the crew is claiming they personally know for more crew members alone who positive.  

[BlerkOne]

56 minutes ago, BasicSailor said:

What law is that? Captains at sea? US of A. Foreign Ports.  Are they reporting each case? Or is it probable to report each case.

§ 71.21 Report of death or illness.

(a) The master of a ship destined for a U.S. port shall report immediately to the quarantine station at or nearest the port at which the ship will arrive, the occurrence, on board, of any death or any ill person among passengers or crew (including those who have disembarked or have been removed) during the 15-day period preceding the date of expected arrival or during the period since departure from a U.S. port (whichever period of time is shorter).

[Guest BasicSailor]

2 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

§ 71.21 Report of death or illness.

(a) The master of a ship destined for a U.S. port shall report immediately to the quarantine station at or nearest the port at which the ship will arrive, the occurrence, on board, of any death or any ill person among passengers or crew (including those who have disembarked or have been removed) during the 15-day period preceding the date of expected arrival or during the period since departure from a U.S. port (whichever period of time is shorter).

Strange way of wording for this law 😶