cleobella Posted February 9, 2023 #26 Share Posted February 9, 2023 We saw Pompeii as part of a Rome in Limo tour which included a drive to Sorrento. The driver got us to Pompeii super quick, so we were allowed in a few minutes before the gates opened. This was fantastic because it kept us ahead of the crowds for the whole time we were there and we were able to get amazing pictures with no crowds in the way! We were handed off to the Pompeii Guide who was so knowledgeable. Though we were just there 2hrs I think we saw and learned more then we would have on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mskaufman Posted February 10, 2023 #27 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 hours ago, cleobella said: We saw Pompeii as part of a Rome in Limo tour which included a drive to Sorrento. The driver got us to Pompeii super quick, so we were allowed in a few minutes before the gates opened. This was fantastic because it kept us ahead of the crowds for the whole time we were there and we were able to get amazing pictures with no crowds in the way! We were handed off to the Pompeii Guide who was so knowledgeable. Though we were just there 2hrs I think we saw and learned more then we would have on our own. Same experience with Rome In Limo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_O Posted February 10, 2023 #28 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 11/12/2022 at 10:05 AM, cruisemom42 said: Resources for visiting Pompeii on your own (or just doing advance research): Map of the site and mini-guide (printable): http://pompeiisites.org/en/visiting-info/map-and-guide-to-the-excavations/ Pompeii in pictures: https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/pompeii.htm AD79 Eruption (photos and descriptions of all excavated parts of Pompeii and other sites destroyed in the 79 AD eruption of Vesuvius): https://sites.google.com/site/ad79eruption/pompeii Best book to read in advance: https://www.amazon.com/Pompeii-Life-Roman-Mary-Beard/dp/1846684714/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2JUM3QWWGGHH1&keywords=mary+beard+pompeii&qid=1668265483&sprefix=mary+beard+pompeii%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1 Thank you so much for posting these links. I have been trying to find a printer friendly map of Pompeii for my April 22 cruise. These are so great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted February 10, 2023 #29 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Chad_O said: Thank you so much for posting these links. I have been trying to find a printer friendly map of Pompeii for my April 22 cruise. These are so great! If you're interested, the definitive map is sold at the bookshop near the main entrance to Pompeii. You can stop by there as you're getting your tickets and purchase a copy. Once you're inside the site, sometimes it can take a while to work out the directions. Excavators have divided up the site into regions and this is the first number you'll see when looking at the address of a house or building (e.g., "Regio III, Regio VI"). They are color-coded on the map I linked. Regios are further divided into blocks, like modern cities. They use the Latin word for block, which is "Insula" (literally means "island"), and each Insula has a cardinal number (e.g., Insula 1, Insulae 3). Those numbers are also on the printable map, in square boxes indicating each block. You will not always find street names readily apparent. Signs are more likely to indicate the Region and Insula nunbers (e.g., Reg IV, Ins. 2). If you wanted to find the House of Venus in the Shell, for example, it is located at Regio II, Insula 3. A large house or property might take up an entire block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_O Posted February 11, 2023 #30 Share Posted February 11, 2023 22 hours ago, cruisemom42 said: If you're interested, the definitive map is sold at the bookshop near the main entrance to Pompeii. You can stop by there as you're getting your tickets and purchase a copy. Once you're inside the site, sometimes it can take a while to work out the directions. Excavators have divided up the site into regions and this is the first number you'll see when looking at the address of a house or building (e.g., "Regio III, Regio VI"). They are color-coded on the map I linked. Regios are further divided into blocks, like modern cities. They use the Latin word for block, which is "Insula" (literally means "island"), and each Insula has a cardinal number (e.g., Insula 1, Insulae 3). Those numbers are also on the printable map, in square boxes indicating each block. You will not always find street names readily apparent. Signs are more likely to indicate the Region and Insula nunbers (e.g., Reg IV, Ins. 2). If you wanted to find the House of Venus in the Shell, for example, it is located at Regio II, Insula 3. A large house or property might take up an entire block. I plan on buying one there but I wanted to plan my route prior to arrival. Your map will get me started. Thank you again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eiloo Posted February 12, 2023 #31 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Thanks to everyone and especially cruisemom42 for sharing in this thread. We’ll be in Naples late June with two kids under 13. We definitely want to do Pompeii and Mount Vesuvius but not looking for a whole day tour. I think we will take the train to Pompeii and explore there. Are there taxis (or ride sharing) at Pompeii to hire to take us to Mount Vesuvius and then back to the ship? What if we get out at Mount Vesuvius, are there transport from there down or are you typically taking the same vehicle up and down? Does anyone know approximate cost of train/bus/taxis between these places? Are taxis metered or are you negotiating the rates in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted February 12, 2023 #32 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) At Pompei you would be picking up a local, metered taxi and it would wind up being very expensive. You'd do better, if this is what you want, to arrange a transfer with a stop at Vesuvio with one of the car service companies. There is public transport but it won't work within the limitations of a cruise port day. The only options are the public EAV bus that goes round trip between Pompei and Vesuvio, or the private Vesuvio Express service that goes round trip between Ercolano and Vesuvio. There is no way to switch from one to the other at Vesuvio. Be aware that tickets for Vesuvio must now be purchased in advance, you cannot show up and buy them on site: The Great Cono | Vesuvius National Park (parconazionaledelvesuvio.it) Edited February 12, 2023 by euro cruiser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted February 12, 2023 #33 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I will just put in my 2 cents, having done the hike to Vesuvius twice on separate land tours. It's really NOT that interesting, especially for kids. We had a geologist accompany our group and there is a lot of fairly academic information shared about volcanic conditions, geology, monitoring etc. You can get some great views on a clear day (my second visit) but if it is cloudy or hazy -- which it often is -- the views are less compelling. This website gives a good overview of what you can see during the hike, sort of brownish gray dirt, scrubby growth, etc.: https://www.timetravelturtle.com/hiking-mount-vesuvius-naples-italy/ Again, I don't think my son at age 12-13 would've found it very interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityFL Posted September 19 #34 Share Posted September 19 Rick Steves has an app Audio Europe which has a good audio tour and transcript of Pompeii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateUpNorth Posted September 24 #35 Share Posted September 24 On 9/19/2024 at 6:47 AM, TrinityFL said: Rick Steves has an app Audio Europe which has a good audio tour and transcript of Pompeii. We were there 2 weeks ago with kids 8 and 12. Rick Steves audio tour was perfect in length and description. (we had others ask us what we were using and download on the spot while we were there as well) I would add that it's an amazing STARTING point for Pompeii. There is so much more to see there if you have the time/interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted September 27 #36 Share Posted September 27 @cruisemom42Once again, thank you! Will attempt to DIY from Naples to Pompeii...April 2025. Asking your help on how to get to the train station from the cruise terminal. Thank you. * Or is it easier by bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted September 27 #37 Share Posted September 27 4 hours ago, bonsai3s said: @cruisemom42Once again, thank you! Will attempt to DIY from Naples to Pompeii...April 2025. Asking your help on how to get to the train station from the cruise terminal. Thank you. * Or is it easier by bus? By some of the reports I've read, the bus may be easier. I haven't actually used the bus, as my most recent visits to Pompeii have been associated with land trips, not cruises. @euro cruiser has made good arguments in the past as to why the bus is better, including easier to get to, takes you directly to Pompeii, and you don't have to face the inescapable crowds on the train. The downsides are that you're limited as to timing, but if the timing works for you, I would suggest it. The train station you want to get to is the Porta Nolana station, not the main train station, so using the new metro isn't possible. You can walk it; Google maps makes it out to be a 23 minute walk (I'd allow at least 30, I tend not to walk as fast as Google things I should....). You can see the route here. (The reason for going to Porta Nolana is to get on at the starting point of the line, as you'll have a better chance of obtaining a seat. You CAN catch it at the main train station, but it will already be crowded.) There are a couple of buses and a tram that traverse this route. I put in a random weekday, selected an 8:00 am departure time and plugged it into Google maps using the public transportation option. See the results here. (You can play with the day and time as needed.) The tram is #421, the others are buses. There is a kiosk on the main road, not far from where you come out of the cruise terminal building, where you can purchase a ticket. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted September 27 #38 Share Posted September 27 2 hours ago, cruisemom42 said: By some of the reports I've read, the bus may be easier. I haven't actually used the bus, as my most recent visits to Pompeii have been associated with land trips, not cruises. @euro cruiser has made good arguments in the past as to why the bus is better, including easier to get to, takes you directly to Pompeii, and you don't have to face the inescapable crowds on the train. The downsides are that you're limited as to timing, but if the timing works for you, I would suggest it. The train station you want to get to is the Porta Nolana station, not the main train station, so using the new metro isn't possible. You can walk it; Google maps makes it out to be a 23 minute walk (I'd allow at least 30, I tend not to walk as fast as Google things I should....). You can see the route here. (The reason for going to Porta Nolana is to get on at the starting point of the line, as you'll have a better chance of obtaining a seat. You CAN catch it at the main train station, but it will already be crowded.) There are a couple of buses and a tram that traverse this route. I put in a random weekday, selected an 8:00 am departure time and plugged it into Google maps using the public transportation option. See the results here. (You can play with the day and time as needed.) The tram is #421, the others are buses. There is a kiosk on the main road, not far from where you come out of the cruise terminal building, where you can purchase a ticket. Hope this helps. Thank you. We will be on a B2B...the first week, we'll try the train. (I'm blind but my wonderful wife is there to guide me.) The second week we'll be with 4 relatives (1 who can't/unable to walk to the train station)...so it may have to be the bus. Is that the Varco Immacolletta (sp?) for the bus station and ticket kiosk? Is this the direct bus to Pompeii? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 28 #39 Share Posted September 28 (edited) Yes, Varco Immacolatella is the bus depot. It will be interesting to hear the contrasts from someone who has tried both in a short time frame. As Cruisemom said, I won't take the train unless the bus absolutely cannot work. Edited September 28 by euro cruiser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted September 28 #40 Share Posted September 28 24 minutes ago, euro cruiser said: Yes, Varco Immacolatella is the bus depot. It will be interesting to hear the contrasts from someone who has tried both in a short time frame. As Cruisemom said, I won't take the train unless the bus absolutely cannot work. @euro cruiserThank you. A quick google search showed reviews stating that there's no longer a ticket booth or information office at Varco Immacolatella bus station...if true, where can we purchase bus tickets? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted Sunday at 02:23 AM #41 Share Posted Sunday at 02:23 AM I'm not in Naples at the moment so I can't personally verify it for you, but the Sita web site still lists the Varco Immacolatella ticket office: Biglietterie - Sita sud Trasporti - Campania I'd believe Sita before google. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner6 Posted Monday at 04:09 PM #42 Share Posted Monday at 04:09 PM (edited) We are flying into Naples 2 days before our cruise in order to see Herculaneum. We arrive at 2pm and have 2 nights for Naples. Then moving on to Rome sometime on the third day. My question is how to make the best use of our time and where to stay for ease of transport. We are in our 70's and have full mobility although not physically "fit", we are able to walk for extended periods as long as we rest at intervals. Our main interests are History and local culture. We are not interested in going to Vesuvius. It might be lovely to see Pompeii as well, but I do not wish for sensory overload and fear it might be too much for one day. I realize the first day will probably be jet-lagged and all we will do is walk a little have dinner and then rest up for a big day tomorrow. Edited Monday at 04:11 PM by shiner6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted Monday at 04:19 PM #43 Share Posted Monday at 04:19 PM A good spot to stay in Naples is right in the historic center, near one of three stops on the #1 metro line (Municipio, Toledo or Dante). From these you can easily get to Napoli Centrale on the metro, but you'll be in the historic center rather than on the fringes at the train station. You'll have easy walking access to lots of restaurants, museums, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchstoneFeste Posted Monday at 10:38 PM #44 Share Posted Monday at 10:38 PM 6 hours ago, shiner6 said: in order to see Herculaneum. Herculaneum is a great choice. It's a small-ish site (compared to Pompeii) that you'll be able to cover in about 2 hours. There's a long incline to get down to (and back from) the excavated area, and most of the foot traffic is over cobblestones, but it's very walkable. I'm in my 70s and recovering from knee surgery, and I had no problem. (There's no place to sit and very little shade.) The site is beautifu in a historical sensel, and it's not very crowded (especially if you can arrive early in the day; the cruise ship bus hordes seemed to be arriving as we were departing around noon). Pompeii is spectacular. It's also huge. You could easily spend a couple days there, but one long afternoon or morning should do it well enough. The crowds make it difficult to get around and see things - they were the most tiring aspect of our visit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mskaufman Posted Tuesday at 01:45 AM #45 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:45 AM We have done both - a ship tour and a private guide. The experiences were similar. Very dependent on the guide. Both times were in the summer and it was very hot. Both times the guide tried to keep us out of the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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