Influencers onboard

[Liao]

The worst are the ones who setup their camera on a table top tripod and proceed to film and describe every morsel they consume.  One of the most popular vloggers did this recently on MSC in YC and were told to stop filming because of so many complaints.  They made a huge federal case over it, stormed off the ship at the next port and got like 500,000 view$ on their channel.  They seem quite obnoxious on their YT videos.

[cgolf1]

One thing I do find interesting is some of the ship tour videos. A lot of the ones we watch, even current ones with full ships, the ship is really empty and it is daylight. So they are either one of the first on or they get lucky and everyone gets off the ship at ports. It is actually kind of weird. Perhaps X and other lines give these youtube channels special access for the tour videos, since it is really free advertising for them.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:47 PM by cgolf1

[zitsky]

24 minutes ago, cgolf1 said:

One thing I do find interesting is some of the ship tour videos. A lot of the ones we watch, even current ones with full ships, the ship is really empty and it is daylight. So they are either one of the first on or they get lucky and everyone gets off the ship at ports. It is actually kind of weird. Perhaps X and other lines give these youtube channels special access for the tour videos, since it is really free advertising for them.

 

 

I wonder about these cabin tours, some done by travel agencies.  Same thing.  They are advertising the product so they like the exposure.

[Ex-Airbalancer]

35 minutes ago, Charles4515 said:

What I don’t understand is why people use speakerphone in public. I won’t ask anyone to stop though using their phone or stop blasting music. I ask management to ask them to stop. Too many psychos who get enraged. 

I know it is just crazy ,

I was in a waiting area with my mom and someone answer their phone and was on speakerphone, not a very interesting conversation 😉🤣

[joydivision84]

On 3/30/2023 at 2:19 PM, zitsky said:

I just watched part of a YouTube video by some rather annoying guys, recording in one of the Beyond pools.  Do I have to worry about influencers, TikTok stars etc taking over the ship?  I don’t have a problem sharing space but I’m not leaving a space to make it more convenient for them.

No, you don't have anything to explicitly worry about. No influencers will ruin your cruise, of that I'm pretty sure.

[joydivision84]

34 minutes ago, cgolf1 said:

One thing I do find interesting is some of the ship tour videos. A lot of the ones we watch, even current ones with full ships, the ship is really empty and it is daylight. So they are either one of the first on or they get lucky and everyone gets off the ship at ports. It is actually kind of weird. Perhaps X and other lines give these youtube channels special access for the tour videos, since it is really free advertising for them.

 

 

They do them on port days and often you see ones recorded in the middle of the night. I think it's pretty clear most of these influencers and TA companies don't want to inconvenience other cruise travellers, rightly so.

[joydivision84]

37 minutes ago, Liao said:

The worst are the ones who setup their camera on a table top tripod and proceed to film and describe every morsel they consume.  One of the most popular vloggers did this recently on MSC in YC and were told to stop filming because of so many complaints.  They made a huge federal case over it, stormed off the ship at the next port and got like 500,000 view$ on their channel.  They seem quite obnoxious on their YT videos.

Who was this? Why don't you just name the YouTuber so we can see the film?

[Tom and Ingrid]

55 minutes ago, zitsky said:

No one has a problem if people are considerate.  But if you are blasting your music at the pool or chatting with family at full volume at a restaurant without headphones I may ask you to turn it down.

 

If you want use of a space for your own benefit then ask management.  And no, just because someone has a YouTube channel it doesn’t mean that I care about it.

Sadly, what you're describing is a MUCH greater pattern of poor behavior in the general cruising (and regular) population and not tied to vloggers to any more or less of a degree. 😞 Poor passenger behavior is a chronic complaint here (in the X forum) and often why folks "advance" up the cruise line level from the lower tier "booze cruise" lines to the ultra-expensive but strongly disciplined lines.  

Challengingly, X is at the crossroads of the shift to get younger and/or more active folks on-board vs maintaining what in the past was calm, quiet, and peaceful cruising.  A sad example was the guy in the Solarium (maybe cruising alone) who spent hours speaking at a near shout (in the bubbling hot tub) to any and all folks who happened to join him in the tub.  No "inside voice". No "hushed library talking", but rather "I like to talk and I like to talk loudly" voice.  He wasn't a blogger. He wasn't on a phone. He wasn't taking selfies or making videos. What he was was in the Solarium for several hours every sea day behaving the same way.

Rude is rude is rude, and for every one example of a rude TikTok or vlogger, there are literally hundreds or thousands of rude non-TikTok or non-vloggers. 

I don't ever really feel the need to narrow down who SPECIFICALLY is rude, as I've encountered, as I am sure you have, rude folks of EVERY persuasion - race, creed, color, sex, nationality, career, income, age, etc..  I'd much rather have a nickel for every rude person I've encountered in a day or a year than $100 or $1,000 for rude TikTok/vloggers I've encountered anywhere.  

Edited Tuesday at 05:22 PM by Tom and Ingrid

[Liao]

1 hour ago, joydivision84 said:

Who was this? Why don't you just name the YouTuber so we can see the film?

They are very easy to find, I won't give them any promotion.

[Salt Lifer]

I don't mind influencers as a general rule - they serve an important purpose to help educate the public and, more importantly, give me a virtual cruise "fix" between my own sailings!  But I despise the ones who walk around narrating their every move.  I much prefer ones who film silently without big dramatics and then do voiceovers in editing.  This is much less intrusive to fellow passengers than someone wandering around the ship and buffet lines chatting away for all to hear.

[zitsky]

The problem is that some people seem to think it rude to ask other people to not be rude!  You can do it politely.  And if they don’t stop maybe see if a staff member will talk to them.  Maybe yes.  Maybe no.  I don’t think influencers get to be rude because some guy somewhere was rude too.  Lowest common denominator.

 

I certainly have people or things I’m interested in.  Some people that inspire me.  But that said, I’ve never been a fan of celebrities anywhere.  (Oh I’ll wear what she wears.)

A fireman provides a service.  An influencer not so much,  I couldn’t care less that you have 100,000 followers.  Or 10 million.

[Tom and Ingrid]

41 minutes ago, zitsky said:

 I don’t think influencers get to be rude because some guy somewhere was rude too.  Lowest common denominator.

NO ONE should be rude.  That's common sense and common courtesy. And oddly, this 13 page (so far) thread hasn't shown that an "influencer" (or vlogger or TikTok star) is any different than any one else - more rude or less rude.  I think most of us have never had an incident with a rude "influencer" but we ALL have had countless (truly innumerable) encounters with rude non-influencers.  

Address the general population's rudeness, and that will make all of our lives much better - at home and/or at sea.  Simply focus on influencer behavior and that's not something that will benefit almost any of us.

[zitsky]

5 minutes ago, Tom and Ingrid said:

NO ONE should be rude.  That's common sense and common courtesy. And oddly, this 13 page (so far) thread hasn't shown that an "influencer" (or vlogger or TikTok star) is any different than any one else - more rude or less rude.  I think most of us have never had an incident with a rude "influencer" but we ALL have had countless (truly innumerable) encounters with rude non-influencers.  

Address the general population's rudeness, and that will make all of our lives much better - at home and/or at sea.  Simply focus on influencer behavior and that's not something that will benefit almost any of us.

 

Well then we agree on something.  No one should be rude to other passengers.  

 

My definition of that means, no loud music at the pool on Bluetooth speakers, no loud phone or video calls in restaurants when others are trying to eat.  I believe someone already gave the example of an "influencer" holding up the buffet line.  You're surprised we haven't found more examples of rude influencers?  Perhaps we start keeping track.

[Tom and Ingrid]

9 minutes ago, zitsky said:

 

Well then we agree on something.  No one should be rude to other passengers.  

 

My definition of that means, no loud music at the pool on Bluetooth speakers, no loud phone or video calls in restaurants when others are trying to eat.  I believe someone already gave the example of an "influencer" holding up the buffet line.  You're surprised we haven't found more examples of rude influencers?  Perhaps we start keeping track.

I've had MANY folks on cruises hold up lines or do rude stuff in general. I haven't seen the need to keep track. I'm not sure why you would want to keep track of rude influencers but not rude men, or rude women, or rude Americans, or rude Canadians, or rude children, or rude redheads, etc...

[justcrusn]

5 hours ago, Liao said:

The worst are the ones who setup their camera on a table top tripod and proceed to film and describe every morsel they consume.  One of the most popular vloggers did this recently on MSC in YC and were told to stop filming because of so many complaints.  They made a huge federal case over it, stormed off the ship at the next port and got like 500,000 view$ on their channel.  They seem quite obnoxious on their YT videos.

The MOST popular youtube styles by far is the “i am outraged” style.Mostly at job/boss, but also customers, vendors, road rage incidents, whatever.

let someone have it, verbally, and you’re guaranteed views/likes.

confrontation, it seems, sells well.

[zitsky]

1 hour ago, Tom and Ingrid said:

I've had MANY folks on cruises hold up lines or do rude stuff in general. I haven't seen the need to keep track. I'm not sure why you would want to keep track of rude influencers but not rude men, or rude women, or rude Americans, or rude Canadians, or rude children, or rude redheads, etc...

You are free to talk about anyone you want.

[Charles4515]

1 hour ago, justcrusn said:

The MOST popular youtube styles by far is the “i am outraged” style.Mostly at job/boss, but also customers, vendors, road rage incidents, whatever.

let someone have it, verbally, and you’re guaranteed views/likes.

confrontation, it seems, sells well.

It has also been found that making some kind of extreme facial expression on the title page draws attention. 

[Ellis1138]

6 hours ago, joydivision84 said:

Who was this? Why don't you just name the YouTuber so we can see the film?

 

It was B&D and it was an absolute waste of time. I watched it, but I can't un-watch it.

[ExArkie]

16 hours ago, zitsky said:

 

A lot of people will blank faces.  I even watched an airline video recently where the reviewer blanked his own face.  But I would find it annoying if someone walked through a restaurant or other space filming everyone and everything.

Blanking or blurring faces would probably be legal without a release. Thanks for explaining - I have never watched any of these (nor will I), so I didn’t know this. 

[desibee]

18 hours ago, Liao said:

The worst are the ones who setup their camera on a table top tripod and proceed to film and describe every morsel they consume.  One of the most popular vloggers did this recently on MSC in YC and were told to stop filming because of so many complaints.  They made a huge federal case over it, stormed off the ship at the next port and got like 500,000 view$ on their channel.  They seem quite obnoxious on their YT videos.

Sorry, maybe I'm stupid but I simply don't understand why someone filming or photographing their food hurts you or your dinner in any way.

 

Maybe a few of you guys need to take a gander at what goes on in a Cruise Critic "live" post that so many of you love doing?  Because I see an awful lot of pics of every morsel.

[crazyank]

32 minutes ago, desibee said:

Sorry, maybe I'm stupid but I simply don't understand why someone filming or photographing their food hurts you or your dinner in any way.

 

Maybe a few of you guys need to take a gander at what goes on in a Cruise Critic "live" post that so many of you love doing?  Because I see an awful lot of pics of every morsel.

Why does it bother people??   Two so-called influencers were at a table for two next to us.  They set up their camera and proceeded to film and describe everything from the way the table was set to the service of each dish, the ingredients, the appearance,  and the taste, all in loud voices.  After approximately 20 minutes of this the head waiter politely asked them to stop. They got nasty with him and promptly left the MDR.

[desibee]

18 minutes ago, crazyank said:

Why does it bother people??   Two so-called influencers were at a table for two next to us.  They set up their camera and proceeded to film and describe everything from the way the table was set to the service of each dish, the ingredients, the appearance,  and the taste, all in loud voices.  After approximately 20 minutes of this the head waiter politely asked them to stop. They got nasty with him and promptly left the MDR.

 

Drunk people cackling like witches in large groups at dinner bother me a lot more than people taking video but I simply ignore them and eat my food.  

[zitsky]

16 minutes ago, desibee said:

 

Drunk people cackling like witches in large groups at dinner bother me a lot more than people taking video but I simply ignore them and eat my food.  

We’ll seat you next to the influencers then.

[Tom and Ingrid]

18 minutes ago, desibee said:

Drunk people cackling like witches in large groups at dinner bother me a lot more than people taking video but I simply ignore them and eat my food.  

What about drunk so-called influencers cackling like witches in large groups at dinner?  

Isn't there a HUGE difference between just plain rude people and rude so-called influencers?  Imagine a time before the rise of the so-called influencer.  Everything was perfect.  No one was rude. And we had no one to single out and complain about.  The good old days of 2010!

[Lena11033]

Filming isn't the same as taking a photo of your food. Yes I do lives and have done some filming but I'd never film in a restaurant. 

Filming takes time, they are not taking seconds to film they are continuously filming for the whole thing. That's hours of filming they are doing for YouTube. Unless you are doing a live video it's a lot of retakes and extra filming to make sure you have content.

 

Yes I watch B&D and I have seen the video in question, it was quite clear not only staff but passengers were unhappy. I saw people in the video with annoyed looks on their face. I've been on MSC my DSLR is quite big as it has extra battery pack on it, I've not been stopped but then I don't film or take pictures with people in. 

 

When I was on Beyond there was a travel agent filming but they were off in a corner and not bothering anyone, that's how to do it. I know a lot of TAs that film work with the cruise lines but they generally aren't in people's way or work with the line to film.

 

There are other videos I watch and people will quickly photo/film the food but then do the food review in their room after which personally I think is a better way to do it as you aren't bothering other people.