seafood shack...is it worth it?

[DallasGuy75219]

 

On 4/13/2024 at 8:17 AM, mz-s said:

I remember on one of my cruises post-restart, they had a slide on the jumbotron at the main pool telling folks not to waste so much food. It specifically called out bread as the most-wasted food onboard.

 

As far as the bread bowls I am sure waste was the reason. Same reason why the taco shell bowls are gone from blue iguana 😞 

Except that Carnival cares much less (if at all) if someone bought the wasted food a la carte (bread bowls) vs. got it as complimentary food (taco shell bowls).

 

Most of Carnival's "green consciousness" is just whitewashing to cut expenses.

[sparks1093]

25 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

 

Except that Carnival cares much less (if at all) if someone bought the wasted food a la carte (bread bowls) vs. got it as complimentary food (taco shell bowls).

 

Most of Carnival's "green consciousness" is just whitewashing to cut expenses.

Not sure anyone mentioned "green consciousness" at all. They stopped serving the items because people weren't eating them. Of course it saves money not providing something that won't be consumed. 

Edited April 14 by sparks1093

[mz-s]

35 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

 

Except that Carnival cares much less (if at all) if someone bought the wasted food a la carte (bread bowls) vs. got it as complimentary food (taco shell bowls).

 

Most of Carnival's "green consciousness" is just whitewashing to cut expenses.

 

If they can serve a bowl of chowder in a regular bowl vs. a bread bowl, it costs them less yet they presumably charge the same price.

[DallasGuy75219]

12 minutes ago, sparks1093 said:

Not sure anyone mentioned "green consciousness" at all. They stopped serving the items because people weren't eating them. Of course it saves money not providing something that won't be consumed. 

I didn't say anyone did mention it, but the reality is that Carnival likes to frame their food cuts as for environmental reasons when the reality is that the primary reason is for cost savings.

[jimbo5544]

22 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

I didn't say anyone did mention it, but the reality is that Carnival likes to frame their food cuts as for environmental reasons when the reality is that the primary reason is for cost savings.

Just like every other cruise line.

[mz-s]

23 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

Just like every other cruise line.

 

And how many restaurants said they were saving the sea creatures when they took away straws...etc etc..."greenwashing" is not unique to Carnival or the cruise industry by any stretch...

[sparks1093]

1 hour ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

I didn't say anyone did mention it, but the reality is that Carnival likes to frame their food cuts as for environmental reasons when the reality is that the primary reason is for cost savings.

I don't recall anyone saying anything about how Carnival was framing this in any particular way, either. 

[DallasGuy75219]

2 minutes ago, sparks1093 said:

I don't recall anyone saying anything about how Carnival was framing this in any particular way, either. 

So no one is allowed to bring up points relevant to but not specifically mentioned in another post?

 

Who made you the Cruise Critic posting police?

[braveslake]

We really enjoy the Seafood Shack and specifically...the clam chowder, lobster rolls and fried

shrimp. Go early in your cruise because on several occasions they have run out of specific items by the end of the cruise. Last night it was shrimp. Last cruise it was clam chowder. 

[jimbo5544]

44 minutes ago, sparks1093 said:

I don't recall anyone saying anything about how Carnival was framing this in any particular way, either. 

Bingo, love it! 

[sparks1093]

8 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

So no one is allowed to bring up points relevant to but not specifically mentioned in another post?

 

Who made you the Cruise Critic posting police?

And conversely no one can point out that what you are discussing hasn't been mentioned in the current thread? 🤣You may be right regarding Carnival's motives for eliminating these items but you are putting words in their mouth and ascribing a motive that isn't evident in this particular case. Frankly I think it is a good thing that they are trying to save money where they can. Helps keep the cruise fare low.

[DallasGuy75219]

9 minutes ago, sparks1093 said:

Frankly I think it is a good thing that they are trying to save money where they can. Helps keep the cruise fare low.

By all means, low fares even if the cheerleaders have to eat corn flakes, bologna sandwiches, and hot dog spaghetti.

Edited April 15 by DallasGuy75219

[sparks1093]

20 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

By all means, low fares even if the cheerleaders have to eat corn flakes, bologna sandwiches, and hot dog spaghetti.

Then it's a darn good thing that I like corn flakes, bologna sandwiches, and hot dog spaghetti. 🤪

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, sparks1093 said:

And conversely no one can point out that what you are discussing hasn't been mentioned in the current thread? 🤣You may be right regarding Carnival's motives for eliminating these items but you are putting words in their mouth and ascribing a motive that isn't evident in this particular case. Frankly I think it is a good thing that they are trying to save money where they can. Helps keep the cruise fare low.

Careful, if you keep diffusing agenda driven posts with facts, it may diffuse the purpose.  Despite the posters intent, the facts are that all cruise lines try and save money and food waste is a prime way to do that.

Edited April 15 by jimbo5544

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

By all means, low fares even if the cheerleaders have to eat corn flakes, bologna sandwiches, and hot dog spaghetti.

And yet, The Points Guy rates Carnivals food in the upper echelon.   Hmmmm….

Edited April 15 by jimbo5544

[sparks1093]

11 hours ago, mz-s said:

 

If they can serve a bowl of chowder in a regular bowl vs. a bread bowl, it costs them less yet they presumably charge the same price.

It costs them less but it's not really a cost savings that can be easily passed on to the consumer (think pennies per serving, not dollars). They are eliminating one thing (material to make the bread, the staff hours necessary to make the bread) and replacing it with something else (the staff hours needed to wash the extra dishes, the cost to replace any broken dishes). I'm sure that their bean counters have this all enumerated on the appropriate spreadsheet.

[mz-s]

48 minutes ago, sparks1093 said:

It costs them less but it's not really a cost savings that can be easily passed on to the consumer (think pennies per serving, not dollars). They are eliminating one thing (material to make the bread, the staff hours necessary to make the bread) and replacing it with something else (the staff hours needed to wash the extra dishes, the cost to replace any broken dishes). I'm sure that their bean counters have this all enumerated on the appropriate spreadsheet.

 

American figured out that by taking one olive off their in-flight salads, they saved tens of thousands of dollars a year. So pennies add up.

[sparks1093]

19 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

American figured out that by taking one olive off their in-flight salads, they saved tens of thousands of dollars a year. So pennies add up.

Yes, they absolutely do but that doesn't mean that the savings are easy to pass on to each consumer. I'm sure that a ten cent reduction (made up number for discussion purposes only) might induce a passenger to order the item in the case of the bread bowl but I have my doubts about that.

[BlerkOne]

22 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

 

Except that Carnival cares much less (if at all) if someone bought the wasted food a la carte (bread bowls) vs. got it as complimentary food (taco shell bowls).

 

Most of Carnival's "green consciousness" is just whitewashing to cut expenses.

Malarkey. Most of Carnival's reduction in plastics use and food waste is part of the settlement of a lawsuit.

[BlerkOne]

Some of my go to foods are the fish and chips and the lobster rolls with butter (not mayo). I used to really like the crab cake sliders but don't know that they have them any more.

[BlerkOne]

12 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

By all means, low fares even if the cheerleaders have to eat corn flakes, bologna sandwiches, and hot dog spaghetti.

If by low fares you mean casino comped cruises, Carnival should charge them extra for the fine dining.

[BlerkOne]

22 hours ago, mz-s said:

 

If they can serve a bowl of chowder in a regular bowl vs. a bread bowl, it costs them less yet they presumably charge the same price.

I'm thinking not. The bowls have to be collected and washed, etc. Then there is breakage, theft, etc.

[mz-s]

19 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

I'm thinking not. The bowls have to be collected and washed, etc. Then there is breakage, theft, etc.

 

Bread is cheap but they're washing a dish either way. They don't just hand over a bread bowl with their bare hands, it's served on a plate that must be washed, may break, get stolen, etc. So eliminating the bread is only upside, if the customer will tolerate the change.

[BlerkOne]

10 minutes ago, mz-s said:

 

Bread is cheap but they're washing a dish either way. They don't just hand over a bread bowl with their bare hands, it's served on a plate that must be washed, may break, get stolen, etc. So eliminating the bread is only upside, if the customer will tolerate the change.

A regular bowl would be on a plate/platter/whatever, too, no? So two dishes vs one.

[mz-s]

18 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

A regular bowl would be on a plate/platter/whatever, too, no? So two dishes vs one.

 

Not on modern Carnival. In times past, yes. But there are no more decorative plates or chargers on Carnival. They went away around the same time as the buffet trays and when American Table was instituted.

Edited April 15 by mz-s