Cunard Officially Welcomes Queen Anne with Ceremony at Fincantieri Shipyard

[WantedOnVoyage]

5 minutes ago, Austcruiser84 said:

I believe QA’s forward hull is slightly more robust than your average cruise ship. Therefore slightly more liner in design than cruise ship. 

 You do? Where did you read that?  I do not believe her hull is any different from any of the other Pinnacle-class ships.  That's a major, significant structural alteration of plates and framing too and for what reason would this be done? She is a cruise ship in design, purpose and profile not a liner by any definition of the word.  And nothing wrong with that, either. But a liner is a lady as Kipling wrote and QA is no liner and I'll leave it others to determine if she's a lady. 

[Austcruiser84]

1 hour ago, WantedOnVoyage said:

 You do? Where did you read that?  I do not believe her hull is any different from any of the other Pinnacle-class ships.  That's a major, significant structural alteration of plates and framing too and for what reason would this be done? She is a cruise ship in design, purpose and profile not a liner by any definition of the word.  And nothing wrong with that, either. But a liner is a lady as Kipling wrote and QA is no liner and I'll leave it others to determine if she's a lady. 

Based on Cunard’s decision to slightly increase the forward plating on QV and QE to help in rough Atlantic seas. That is public knowledge. QA is also said to have had similar treatment. 

[Mareblu]

18 hours ago, D&N said:

Interesting to note that the CEO and managing director of Fincantieri doesn't know the difference between a liner and a cruise ship. 🙂

Perhaps, before casting aspersions, you should research the language.  The word for ship is “nave”.  That applies to all vessels, whether passenger, cargo, etc.  I’m sure that just like my Italian (by birth) husband, Fincantieri’s executive staff are educated.

[Mareblu]

17 hours ago, ratflinger said:

Cruise Ship - nave da crociera

Ocean Liner - Transatlantico

Yes there is indeed

Transatlantico is a term rarely used, and refers more to a “nave” plying a particular route.  Nave is the term for all vessels.  “Barca” is a boat.

[MylesS]

17 hours ago, bluemarble said:

 

I certainly don't want to start any unfounded rumors, but there is a possibility QA's voyage to Southampton will be delayed a few days. Cunard have notified travel agents their previously scheduled "test" cruise on April 29th in Southampton has been canceled. There are also a few unconfirmed posts elsewhere on social media claiming QA won't be leaving Venice until April 22 or 23.

 

No need for any alarm concerning the maiden voyage departing as scheduled on May 3, but her arrival in Southampton on April 27 might be in jeopardy. I'll be glad to be proven wrong about this by seeing QA depart soon. I will add the Southampton VTS Cruise Ship schedule still shows QA arriving on April 27.

Interestingly, the press release put out by the shipyard (below) says she will arrive at Southampton on the 27th.

"Queen Anne, the 249^th ship to sail under the Cunard flag – and the third built by Fincantieri – will now set sail for Southampton ahead of her seven-night maiden voyage to Lisbon on 3 May. She will arrive in her homeport on 27 April."

https://www.fincantieri.com/en/media/press-releases/2024/cunard-officially-welcomes-new-ship-queen-anne-with-ceremony-at-fincantieri-shipyard/

Edited April 20 by MylesS

[D&N]

2 hours ago, Mareblu said:

Perhaps, before casting aspersions, you should research the language.  The word for ship is “nave”.  That applies to all vessels, whether passenger, cargo, etc.  I’m sure that just like my Italian (by birth) husband, Fincantieri’s executive staff are educated.

Did you read the quotation from Cruise Industry News? I didn't see any mention of the word "nave".

 

“Constructing a liner for such a distinguished shipowner not only reconnects us to our origins but propels us towards the future with a determination to blend tradition and innovation. Fincantieri thus confirms its leadership in the cruise shipbuilding sector, a fundamental pillar of the company’s business project, as both the Group’s Business Plan and the vitality of the post-pandemic cruise sector clearly show.”

[rmsEtruria]

1 hour ago, D&N said:

Did you read the quotation from Cruise Industry News? I didn't see any mention of the word "nave".

 

“Constructing a liner for such a distinguished shipowner not only reconnects us to our origins but propels us towards the future with a determination to blend tradition and innovation. Fincantieri thus confirms its leadership in the cruise shipbuilding sector, a fundamental pillar of the company’s business project, as both the Group’s Business Plan and the vitality of the post-pandemic cruise sector clearly show.”

From Italian Wikipedia:

Con il termine transatlantico si intende in modo generico una nave specializzata nel trasporto di passeggeri su rotte che attraversano un intero oceano, in genere con regolare servizio di linea. Nonostante queste navi siano ormai scomparse dalle rotte oceaniche, il termine è ancora in uso per indicare le navi da crociera; bisogna tuttavia ricordare che i transatlantici (anche se si sono evoluti nel tempo) sono strutturalmente molto diversi dalle moderne navi da crociera.

I am pretty sure that the issue here is not one of ignorance on the part of Mr. Folgiero, but of translation. At the event, did he make his statement in Italian or in English? If in Italian, even if he said “transatlantico,” the word can be used for “cruise ship”; if he said “nave” or “nave de crociera,” we may blame the translator preparing the news release (quite possibly thinking that “liner” would sound better). If Mr. Folgiero spoke in English, did he draft the statement himself, or was it prepared by a publicity staffer unaware of the distinction made in English between “liner” and “cruise ship”? (And if he drafted it himself, he, too, may have been unaware of how much weight we in English—or at least those on this board—put on that distinction.)

In sum, allow for subtle differences in meaning when dealing with non-native speakers. And never trust a translation.

[bananavan]

On 4/19/2024 at 1:02 PM, NE John said:

DW first came over to the US in a transatlantico, and I’m sure, nowhere near any Grills-type area…actually she took a couple transatlantici as a youth. She said she remembers her mother being seasick most of the time!

I came over first in 1957, arriving in Quebec on April 27, 1957. We were on the Arosa Kulm, a converted troop ship, built in 1919. 
We were in Tourist class, with two double bunks, a crib, a sink and small toilet. There was no separation between the toilet and bed area. The trip was very rocky. Our ship was berthed beside the Queen Mary but it was dwarfed be her. It was less than 8,000 tonnes. IT was 436 ft long.

Jeff Bezos' yacht Koro is 416 ft long.  Think about that statistic. There were 900 passengers on our ship. 
It was one of only 8 ships that survived WW2 and was placed into Passenger service until 1960. 
In 1960 we took the "Immigrant Regret Hiraeth" sailing back to Wales on a ship called the Italia by Home Lines. It was much bigger, as it had 21,600 GRT. and was 608 feet long. I have the original brochure for that one. We had no toilet in the room but the community toilets and bathing areas were down the corridor. We were in Tourist class and were on the lowest deck.
We flew back to North America three months later and my father did not live long enough to go back to Wales. 
We will be in Q4 on a portion of Queen Anne's maiden World voyage. We are going from San Francisco to Southampton.
The amazing opportunities that I have been afforded are not lost on me. I have been blessed beyond belief. 
This will most likely be our last long voyage and we were conflicted when the itinerary was changed, but realize that the Middle East will be off limits for some time. 
We thought of taking a different cruise line and therefore a different route, but remembered that Cunard suits us best. 
. 

Edited April 20 by bananavan

[bluemarble]

7 hours ago, MylesS said:

Interestingly, the press release put out by the shipyard (below) says she will arrive at Southampton on the 27th.

"Queen Anne, the 249^th ship to sail under the Cunard flag – and the third built by Fincantieri – will now set sail for Southampton ahead of her seven-night maiden voyage to Lisbon on 3 May. She will arrive in her homeport on 27 April."

https://www.fincantieri.com/en/media/press-releases/2024/cunard-officially-welcomes-new-ship-queen-anne-with-ceremony-at-fincantieri-shipyard/

 

Right. That was the original plan to have QA arrive in Southampton on 27 April accompanied by a flotilla escort. I think it's equally interesting to note that Cunard's press release makes no mention of QA's arrival date in Southampton.

 

"Queen Anne, the 249th ship to sail under the Cunard flag – and the third built by Fincantieri – will now set sail for Southampton ahead of her seven-night maiden voyage to Lisbon on May 3."

 

I think it's fair to conclude Cunard have been aware of the delay in QA's departure from Venice which is probably what prompted the cancelation of the test cruise on April 29th.

 

I'll also note this quote from their recent email.

 

"We'll be posting the latest updates throughout her journey home, as well as sneak peeks of what is in store for guests across our social channels, so be sure to follow us."

 

So far they've been providing plenty of the promised "sneak peeks" but no updates about the journey home. Fair enough I suppose since that journey hasn't started yet, but confirmation from Cunard about the delay and the scheduled departure date from Venice would be welcome.

Edited April 20 by bluemarble

[NE John]

Many cruise travel experts advise to stay away from taking maiden voyages…

[sogne]

AIS once she leaves should have .ETA to the Nab pilot station. Add about 90 minutes to that

This assumes she is not stopping off anywhere as QE did.

Today she was loading amongst other things theatre props.

 

[sogne]

15 minutes ago, NE John said:

Many cruise travel experts advise to stay away from taking maiden voyages…

We had booked for the 2nd original cruies in January only because it would have included anniversaries for both of us.

[exlondoner]

55 minutes ago, sogne said:

AIS once she leaves should have .ETA to the Nab pilot station. Add about 90 minutes to that

This assumes she is not stopping off anywhere as QE did.

Today she was loading amongst other things theatre props.

 

Do you have any insight in what the cause of the delay might be.? I assume it can’t be that serious as Cunard have accepted the ship. Many will recall they famously rejected QE2.

[sogne]

4 minutes ago, exlondoner said:

Do you have any insight in what the cause of the delay might be.? I assume it can’t be that serious as Cunard have accepted the ship. Many will recall they famously rejected QE2.

No only guess is she is loading up various bits and pieces.

[sogne]

1 hour ago, sogne said:

AIS once she leaves should have .ETA to the Nab pilot station. Add about 90 minutes to that

This assumes she is not stopping off anywhere as QE did.

Today she was loading amongst other things theatre props.

 

Brief Encounter is now being rehearsed on board according to social media.

[Bell Boy]

7 minutes ago, sogne said:

No only guess is she is loading up various bits and pieces.

I believe that is correct as my reliable source ( who is onboard)   has 'more or less' confirmed this is the reason .