Fire On The Icon

[FamilyCruiserUK]

I thought all ships have to have a annual safety inspection. So check life rafts etc are in date as well as the correct up-to-date paperwork. 

 

I have seen it mentioned on tv show deadliest catch. 👍

[chengkp75]

There would have been inspections during newbuild to ensure the ship met the certificate of compliance for the USCG.  Port state inspections by USCG are not annual, they could be every week if USCG had the budget, but they try to get each ship inspected twice a year.  This has nothing to do with power outages or the recent fire.

 

Based on information I'm hearing here about the fire, I jump to thinking it was a failed turbocharger (the "explosion", and the black smoke from an exhaust), that set off the smoke and heat detectors, though not necessarily any flames, and that was controlled by shutting the engine down, and setting fire watches until things cooled off.  Most likely it was the only generator on line at the time, so a blackout is inevitable.

 

I gotta love non-technical types like cruise hive guessing that "emergency generators served various areas at different times".  Nope, not even close.  When the e-genny comes on, it has very limited service: (a few lights, steering, bilge pumps, lifeboats), all at the same time.  What was happening was that each fire zone on the ship (between the fire doors in the hallways), has separate electrical feeders to provide various types of power (HVAC, galley, laundry, lights, outlets) to that one fire zone, and so it took a while to get around to all the feeders and reset the breakers to get all power back to all zones.

[chengkp75]

1 minute ago, FamilyCruiserUK said:

I thought all ships have to have a annual safety inspection. So check life rafts etc are in date as well as the correct up-to-date paperwork. 

 

I have seen it mentioned on tv show deadliest catch. 👍

The USCG makes mandatory annual inspection of US flag vessels (and quarterly for US flag passenger vessels).  USCG does not have flag state control over foreign flag ships, only port state control, and this is not mandatory, but discretionary on the part of the the port state (country where the ship is currently docked).  As I've noted, USCG tries to inspect all foreign flag cruise ships twice a year, but scheduling and budgetary constraints means this doesn't always happen.  Also, the USCG cannot enforce their stricter regulations that apply to US flag vessels, on foreign vessels.  As port state control, they can only ensure that SOLAS and other international conventions are met.  This is the same for your UK flag vessels and foreign vessels in UK ports.

 

Foreign flag ships are to be inspected by their flag state.  Most flag states delegate this power to the classification societies, which do annual surveys anyway, so the flag state just adds their requirements to the class society requirements.

[loman]

Hmmm , Smoke on the Water ...  reminds me of a song also .

[Oceansaway17]

well in summer 2022 while on the Quantum OTS in Alaska, we had a fire in one of the engines and they cleared the back of the ship including all dining rooms.  They put down the huge fire walls in promenade and they also called BRAVO 4-5 times.  Then they called KILO KILO.  Saw all crew running around to stations by stairs etc.  Even chefs wearing their hats.they then kept moving folks further front towards the bow.

KILO is when the captain wants to prepare ship for loading lifeboats.  This really scared a lot of folks.  See frantic crew running was odd.

Then within an hour, all was opened up. Not too much smoke inside ship but could smell outside.

The best part a bit later was seeing the 8 man fire brigade in FULL YELLOW OUTFITS walking outside along area under the lifeboats.  So, on Quantum all the levels of balconies could look down and my goodness what a lot of clapping and whistling and cheering their thanks for the crew who waved at everyone.

 

The captain explained what happened as well as the room steward explaining why water doors closed in hallways to rooms towards the back of the ship.  While the captain did not say so over loudspeaker, I chatted with security and the said Captain felt calling KILO was the right thing to do just in case as the first was behind walls inside engine shaft and could have gotten worse.

 

Was an interesting experience and just know things are serious when you hear KILO KILO.

I am including a photo of the huge doors

 

[geckoaz]

My wife would be looking for a bathroom on the wrong side of the wall

 

[chengkp75]

2 hours ago, Oceansaway17 said:

KILO is when the captain wants to prepare ship for loading lifeboats.

Actually, "Kilo" is announced to get the deck crew to prepare the lifeboats for launching.  It is still a far cry from a passenger muster signal, which is still a far cry from the decision to actually load and launch the boats.

 

2 hours ago, Oceansaway17 said:

They put down the huge fire walls in promenade and they also called BRAVO 4-5 times.

Typically, if there is a fire alarm in a fire zone, the fire doors on each side of that zone are closed, from the keel to the top of the ship, so the fire is contained in a "vertical fire zone", that has the ability to shut off fire main to that zone (in case of pipe rupture), and shut off power and ventilation to that vertical zone.

[ONECRUISER]

4 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

Annual inspection? Icon has not even been in service for a year. Maybe a couple of power outages has caught someone's attention?

They are not always same week or month or even reasons. I typically do same B4B every year. Had one on Radiance one yr April, next yr it was month March. Another Ship they were 6 months apart. Did Inspection in Apr and another the Oct after Panama Canal Cruise in Tampa after return from Alaska Summer Cruises 

Edited Wednesday at 09:25 PM by ONECRUISER

[livingonthebeach]

3 hours ago, loman said:

Hmmm , Smoke on the Water ...  reminds me of a song also .

 

Yes that was Deep Purple and the song is about a true story -- I was there (after the fire) in Montreux, Switzerland and the lyrics tell a true story -- there was a fire at the Grand Hotel and Casino and it burned down -- hence "smoke on the water" it was next to Lake Geneva. 

[loman]

1 hour ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

Yes that was Deep Purple and the song is about a true story -- I was there (after the fire) in Montreux, Switzerland and the lyrics tell a true story -- there was a fire at the Grand Hotel and Casino and it burned down -- hence "smoke on the water" it was next to Lake Geneva. 

Im a big DP fan. Have been for 50 years and still listen to their tunes.

Funky Claude was running in and out , pulling kids out the ground.

[livingonthebeach]

1 minute ago, loman said:

Im a big DP fan. Have been for 50 years and still listen to their tunes.

Funky Claude was running in and out , pulling kids out the ground.

 

Yes Funky Claude was there but I think he died in a skiing accident shortly thereafter. A flare gun went off in the audience and that is what caused the fire. Funky Claude rescued many people.

[livingonthebeach]

Here are the lyrics

 

"We all came out to Montreux
On the Lake Geneva shoreline
To make records with a mobile, yeah
We didn't have much time now

Frank Zappa and the Mothers
Were at the best place around
But some stupid with a flare gun
Burned the place to the ground

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky

(Smoke) on the water, you guys are great

They burned down the gambling house
It died with an awful sound
Funky Claude was running in and out
He was pulling kids out the ground now

When it all was over
Find another place
Swiss time was running out
It seemed that we would lose the race

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky

Smoke on the water

Burn it down

We ended up at the Grand Hotel
It was empty, cold and bare
The Rolling truck Stones thing just outside
Huh, making our music there now

With a few red lights and a few old beds
We made a place to sweat
No matter what we get out of this

I know, I know we'll never forget

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
Smoke on the water
(I can't hear anything)

one more time
(Smoke on the water) hey!

[nhraformula00]

3 hours ago, livingonthebeach said:

Here are the lyrics

 

"We all came out to Montreux
On the Lake Geneva shoreline
To make records with a mobile, yeah
We didn't have much time now

Frank Zappa and the Mothers
Were at the best place around
But some stupid with a flare gun
Burned the place to the ground

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky

(Smoke) on the water, you guys are great

They burned down the gambling house
It died with an awful sound
Funky Claude was running in and out
He was pulling kids out the ground now

When it all was over
Find another place
Swiss time was running out
It seemed that we would lose the race

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky

Smoke on the water

Burn it down

We ended up at the Grand Hotel
It was empty, cold and bare
The Rolling truck Stones thing just outside
Huh, making our music there now

With a few red lights and a few old beds
We made a place to sweat
No matter what we get out of this

I know, I know we'll never forget

Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
Smoke on the water
(I can't hear anything)

one more time
(Smoke on the water) hey!

Love this song and Deep Purple