memoak Posted 4 hours ago #226 Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, whitecap said: Your'e right and when that restaurant added that mandatory 20% and $2.50 credit card fee, you made the choice not to blow up your budget, but go elsewhere. But wasn't it upsetting to learn what your favorite restaurant had done, no notice, no warning that it was coming? I know when my favorite restaurant stopped serving spaghetti with cut up hot dogs, I was furious, and starting eating elsewhere. No I made the choice to continue to eat there. People are free to choose other cruise lines as well. People also complain that they are being asked to pay $50 for a wine they can buy for $12 at the local store. They obviously have not dined out before. They can very easily bring there own wine on board and pay a corkage fee just like they would at any restaurant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted 4 hours ago #227 Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, CaribbeanIsland said: For those who mention it is not that expensive - would you like a 350% increase on what you like to buy? Regardless of the price this is a huge jump. It is not a necessary increase. They could have easily raised this to $10 and still have a huge profit over it. I used to be able to fly to Europe for around $500 now it cost several thousands. Again my choice to pay or forgo the trip. Has anyone looked at airline prices or hotel prices from pre pandemic times to today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitecap Posted 4 hours ago #228 Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, memoak said: No I made the choice to continue to eat there. People are free to choose other cruise lines as well. People also complain that they are being asked to pay $50 for a wine they can buy for $12 at the local store. They obviously have not dined out before. They can very easily bring there own wine on board and pay a corkage fee just like they would at any restaurant memoak, we pretty much agree. I think the only issue I personally have is when there is no notice given. I can remember in the past when, say gratuities were going to increase, Princess would put out a notice to let everyone know what was coming and give everyone a chance to purchase before the increase. Nowadays, you wake up and it's done. Would be nice if they would go back to sending out the notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywildcatfanone Posted 4 hours ago #229 Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, startedwithamouse said: Our kids drink none of those, but still get Plus. We like the all inclusive feel. What makes sense for some doesn't for others. Princess thanks you for your donation which you have every right to make if it's what you want. Every person has their own choices to make. Edited 4 hours ago by kywildcatfanone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 4 hours ago #230 Share Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, janetz said: The person who posted no plastic water bottles is inncorrect Every cruise we hand over our water, plastic bottles and packaged seltzer in cans to the luggage porter, with a cabin tag on each They happily take it and it always arrives at our cabin. 😊 Some people will say this is not allowed, but they are also incorrect. Nowhere will you find in writing that you are not allowed to hand it over to the porters Pretty clear in the language that the restrictions to bringing it onboard applies to items given to the porters as well. Especially since that the exception to restrictions requires that you bring what is allowed in hand luggage. The rules are clear. The only thing that is not clear is how consistently Princess is enforcing the rules in the cruise contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 4 hours ago #231 Share Posted 4 hours ago 24 minutes ago, whitecap said: memoak, we pretty much agree. I think the only issue I personally have is when there is no notice given. I can remember in the past when, say gratuities were going to increase, Princess would put out a notice to let everyone know what was coming and give everyone a chance to purchase before the increase. Nowadays, you wake up and it's done. Would be nice if they would go back to sending out the notice. What companies out there in any industry give you advance notice of a price increase? Airlines? Hotels? Gas stations? how about your grocery store? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywildcatfanone Posted 3 hours ago #232 Share Posted 3 hours ago I'll wrap up my comments here since this topic was about a 3x increase in price all at once on water. While it was an inexpensive overall change in dollars, a 300+% increase in anything is alarming. I dare say if the packages increased by 300+% many people would complain that it impacts. We used to either buy a case or trade mini bar for it. Will now likely trade to get it and lug on our soft drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 3 hours ago #233 Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TRLD said: Pretty clear in the language that the restrictions to bringing it onboard applies to items given to the porters as well. Especially since that the exception to restrictions requires that you bring what is allowed in hand luggage. The rules are clear. The only thing that is not clear is how consistently Princess is enforcing the rules in the cruise contract. The "rules" probably achieve 90% compliance, and Princess doesn't want to lose those of us who choose not to comply. An ambiguous situation for sure... I do wish we had received advance notice about the price increase for water. I would have ordered it for booked cruises. Meanwhile, we will grudgingly pay the increase. Definitely not a deal-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 3 hours ago #234 Share Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, whitecap said: I know when my favorite restaurant stopped serving spaghetti with cut up hot dogs, I was furious, and starting eating elsewhere. I imagine that Princess chefs would indulge you on this special treat. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare startedwithamouse Posted 3 hours ago #235 Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 57 minutes ago, kywildcatfanone said: Princess thanks you for your donation which you have every right to make if it's what you want. Every person has their own choices to make. Donation? What does that mean? Edited 3 hours ago by startedwithamouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 3 hours ago #236 Share Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Teechur said: The "rules" probably achieve 90% compliance, and Princess doesn't want to lose those of us who choose not to comply. An ambiguous situation for sure... I do wish we had received advance notice about the price increase for water. I would have ordered it for booked cruises. Meanwhile, we will grudgingly pay the increase. Definitely not a deal-breaker. I expect that enforcement will tighten when and if princess switches from plastic to metal or cartons for water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HaveDogWillTravel Posted 3 hours ago #237 Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 49 minutes ago, kywildcatfanone said: I'll wrap up my comments here since this topic was about a 3x increase in price all at once on water. While it was an inexpensive overall change in dollars, a 300+% increase in anything is alarming. I dare say if the packages increased by 300+% many people would complain that it impacts. We used to either buy a case or trade mini bar for it. Will now likely trade to get it and lug on our soft drinks. It’s a 243% increase. See post 202 please Edited 3 hours ago by HaveDogWillTravel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HaveDogWillTravel Posted 3 hours ago #238 Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, whitecap said: the price of water goes up 300% It’s a 243% increase see post 202 please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therese S. Posted 2 hours ago #239 Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) We usually order multiple 12 packs of water for each cruise. DH is a very big water drinker, 5-6 or more bottles a day. Very disappointed in the price increase. Why triple the cost! Just a pure money grab and with no warning! Some in the know folks here warned us about up coming price increase for WiFi and daily tips. Princess just snuck this increase in. I know others say the water is fine, but after we started bringing our own or ordering the 12 packs my fingers and feet have stopped swelling from the ships water. We are standard fare people and princess will never get me to buy a package. Don’t want my business, that’s okay I have other options. We like to cruise at a minimum once a year, but hitting the road in our travel trailer to see the USA is much more rewarding to us. We have 3 cruises booked and will become Elite on the next one. I wonder what plans Princess has for the small bottles of liquor that you can purchase pre cruise? At around $18 for very small 375ml bottle I can see the future where these double in price or Princess stops making them available for purchase. We still plan to bring a 6 or 12 pack of bottled water at embarkation and purchase more at each port along with soda. If they take it away fine, water is cheap at home it’s really just the amount of the increase and no warning that has me pissed off at Princess. Edited 2 hours ago by Therese S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 2 hours ago #240 Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, TRLD said: I expect that enforcement will tighten when and if princess switches from plastic to metal or cartons for water "When and if" they switch, so will we. Again, not a deal-breaker. Some people on this forum seem pretty anxious to see the rest of us forced into compliance. 🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 2 hours ago #241 Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Teechur said: "When and if" they switch, so will we. Again, not a deal-breaker. Some people on this forum seem pretty anxious to see the rest of us forced into compliance. 🤷♂️ Just talking about what the other lines have done and that Princess is likely to.follow. The change is the contract is relatively recent change, now the price increase, would not anyone to say that there was no warning or that they were surprised if/when Princess takes the next step and actually enforces the rules. Personally i tend to take the view that if they actually have a rule they should enforce it. To have a rule then not enforce it penalizes those that follow them and rewards those that break the rules encouraging the behavior. Edited 2 hours ago by TRLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 2 hours ago #242 Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TRLD said: Just talking about what the other lines have done and that Princess is likely to.follow. The change is the contract is relatively recent change, now the price increase, would not anyone to say that there was no warning or that they were surprised if/when Princess takes the next step and actually enforces the rules. With the massive debt CCL is facing, I would imagine that they don't want to run off people like me over something as trivial as plastic bottles. I just returned from a Princess cruise this week and it was my third in the past year. I also took 5 other people with me (3 mini suites). If they decide to enforce "the rules" I will revert to rum runners. OTOH, if they take out the laundromats, I will be looking at other brands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 2 hours ago #243 Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Teechur said: With the massive debt CCL is facing, I would imagine that they don't want to run off people like me over something as trivial as plastic bottles. I just returned from a Princess cruise this week and it was my third in the past year. I also took 5 other people with me (3 mini suites). If they decide to enforce "the rules" I will revert to rum runners. OTOH, if they take out the laundromats, I will be looking at other brands. Considering that cruises seem to be sailing full, they would probably not have any problem with a few people choosing not to sail with them over bringing bottles on board. Keep in mind that to a company not all passengers are equal. Some are in their targeted market group, some are not. If demand is sufficent that they can discourage some that generate less revenue for a given cabin, for some that generate more revenue they would not be upset at all. My own vested interest is if they can increase yield per cabin at current prices and rules, then they have less encentive to increase prices. Edited 2 hours ago by TRLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 2 hours ago #244 Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, TRLD said: Considering that cruises seem to be sailing full, they would probably not have any problem with a few people choosing not to sail with them over bringing bottles on board. Last week, they had no problem with us bringing aboard liquor in plastic/glass bottles; wine; soda in plastic/cans; and beer in 6-packs. Apparently, they hope to keep me for now. 😁 BTW: Having just one cabin sail empty would wipe out all of the "savings" created by banning plastic bottles on a cruise. Edited 2 hours ago by Teechur Added a line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 2 hours ago #245 Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Teechur said: Last week, they had no problem with us bringing aboard liquor in plastic/glass bottles; wine; soda in plastic/cans; and beer in 6-packs. Apparently, they hope to keep me for now. 😁 Nope just not chosen to enforce the rules - yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitecap Posted 2 hours ago #246 Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, TRLD said: What companies out there in any industry give you advance notice of a price increase? Airlines? Hotels? Gas stations? how about your grocery store? I too will wrap up my comments here with this; I just wish Princess would stick to their past routine of sending out a notice prior to the increase. Ya'll have a wonderful and blessed day, may the rain nourish your crops and may the sun brighten each and every day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renmar Posted 2 hours ago #247 Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, memoak said: The same things happen with pretty much everything. Overnight one of my favorite restaurants added a mandatory 20% tip and $2.50 credit card fee. It is my choice to pay or go somewhere else. Any "Mandatory" tip should be mentioned on the menu or otherwise included in the price of the item(s). If it is not then we would have little recourse after you receive your bill. As for the CC fee I think I read somewhere that the CC company would not allow that or the merchant looses the privilege to accept those cards but might be just a rumour. Theo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 2 hours ago #248 Share Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, TRLD said: Personally i tend to take the view that if they actually have a rule they should enforce it. To have a rule then not enforce it penalizes those that follow them and rewards those that break the rules encouraging the behavior. This seems to be why you are so anxiously hoping for enforcement. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRLD Posted 1 hour ago #249 Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Teechur said: This seems to be why you are so anxiously hoping for enforcement. 😉 Not anxiously hoping. Not concerned either way. Though considering how proud some seem to feel at ignoring the rules that might change. Pretty much the same view about children in the pools marked adult only, abuse of rules about loungers on the lines and resorts that have such rules, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted 1 hour ago #250 Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, TRLD said: Not anxiously hoping. Not concerned either way. Though considering how proud some seem to feel at ignoring the rules that might change. Pretty much the same view about children in the pools marked adult only, abuse of rules about loungers on the lines and resorts that have such rules, etc. These things impact other passengers. Bringing plastic bottles on board does not. If it did, why would Princess sell water in plastic bottles? I will continue to buy water for the cabin from Princess but will be more careful with the amount. We left behind 20-30 unused bottles last week which were probably resold to incoming passengers. Edited 1 hour ago by Teechur punctuation repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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