RuthC Posted May 1, 2009 #26 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Oh, my beloved S-ships. :( I'm glad I had one more chance to sail her as originally designed. And so, too, with the Rotterdam next October/Nevember. Sad. Thanks for the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HALFans Posted May 1, 2009 #27 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I can understand enlarging the Navigation/Lido decks. What I don't have any info on is the Ducktail? What benefit does that give the ship? Did they chop off the old stern face and extend all the interior decks? Or is it just a steel 'bubble' on the back end now to offset the weight of the new additions? Did they move the propellers further back? Uninformed minds want to know... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted May 1, 2009 #28 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I can understand enlarging the Navigation/Lido decks. What I don't have any info on is the Ducktail? What benefit does that give the ship? Did they chop off the old stern face and extend all the interior decks? Or is it just a steel 'bubble' on the back end now to offset the weight of the new additions? Did they move the propellers further back? Uninformed minds want to know... ;) It's for fuel efficiency. See page 7 on this PFD: http://www.wartsila.com/Wartsila/global/docs/en/ship_power/energy-efficiency/energy-efficiency-ship-design.pdf There are lots of drydock pictures on the Veendam blog: http://www.hollandamericablog.com/ This photo shows the ducktail section being added: the caption mentions it being added because of the extra weight in the stern area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedmondCruiser Posted May 1, 2009 #29 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Once again, InletCam to the rescue! :D Veendam arrived just before midnight Thursday - now Friday here. I managed a shot. This is one great picture. Send more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted May 1, 2009 #30 Share Posted May 1, 2009 ....................What I don't have any info on is the Ducktail? What benefit does that give the ship? Did they chop off the old stern face and extend all the interior decks? Or is it just a steel 'bubble' on the back end now to offset the weight of the new additions? Did they move the propellers further back? Uninformed minds want to know... ;) The ducktail was also needed to support the added extra weight to her stern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted May 1, 2009 #31 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Retreat pool being constructed Same with the shops onboard Plus Merabella fine jewelry shop Plus completed hull paint job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted May 1, 2009 #32 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Thanks Wiley...that is an awesome photo! You certainly have a ringside seat at your house on the channel. And, thanks again for the photos of the Good Nuts Cruise in February and our sailaway on the following cruise...wish I could buy them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyPet Posted May 1, 2009 #33 Share Posted May 1, 2009 as part of a group of 10 couples from our active adult community in the beautiful Shenandoah valley. We do three days in Denali starting on the 19th and then head down to Seward for 7 days. So looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NeilFan Posted May 1, 2009 #35 Share Posted May 1, 2009 We'e not going on her until August but it's exciting to see all the lights and imagining what kind of fun will be had on her decks!! I do have a dumb engineering question though.....I'm assuming the "ducktail" that you all talk about is right above the water line. Does it serve a purpose (stabilizing, etc.) or is it just to balance out the upper decks they added? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilFan Posted May 1, 2009 #36 Share Posted May 1, 2009 'I do have a dumb engineering question though.....I'm assuming the "ducktail" that you all talk about is right above the water line. Does it serve a purpose (stabilizing, etc.) or is it just to balance out the upper decks they added?" :o Sorry, I didn't read the above posts...question answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlemancruiser Posted May 2, 2009 #37 Share Posted May 2, 2009 First impressions of the Zuiderdam were not to good either. You don't hear them anymore. I think that if there are problems with the way the VEENDAM currently looks you might see some refinements on the other ships that are undergoing this transformation. The Vista class may be boxy, but they have clean lines. The new aft addition makes the ship look very clumsy, however not as terrible as the Costa Marina looks, now that is one UGLY cruise ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazey1 Posted May 2, 2009 #38 Share Posted May 2, 2009 She looks beautiful to me. Wish I was aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted May 2, 2009 #39 Share Posted May 2, 2009 however not as terrible as the Costa Marina looks, now that is one UGLY cruise ship! Butt ugly comes to mind. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted May 2, 2009 #40 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The Vista class may be boxy, but they have clean lines. The new aft addition makes the ship look very clumsy, however not as terrible as the Costa Marina looks, now that is one UGLY cruise ship! Yeah, that's not a day at the beach, that's fer sure:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhansaMi Posted May 2, 2009 #41 Share Posted May 2, 2009 as part of a group of 10 couples from our active adult community in the beautiful Shenandoah valley. We do three days in Denali starting on the 19th and then head down to Seward for 7 days. So looking forward to it! Kathy, we have a place in Bryce. Is that what you are talking about? S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bepsf Posted May 2, 2009 #42 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Oh My Lord You can't compare this with Costa Marina - That ship started out as a freighter and was converted into an ugly cruiseship. Veendam started out as a beautiful ship and now it's been burdended with warts called the Spa addition, the Loft/Oasis and now this mess at the stern. I could live with the Ducktail, but the Deck 6 and 7 extensions are simply inexcusable. You can darned well bet that these photos will never end up in a brochure, an advertisement or on the website - Nobody would book such a horrifically ugly ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsenbiz Posted May 2, 2009 #43 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The night photo is great! All of the lights are beautiful and I would rather be on that ship than reading about her new rear end. That being said, I agree that the line of the ship has certainly changed. At least she doesn't have the aft of the Princess ships, which look like she backed her big a** aft into a wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted May 2, 2009 #44 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Plus one for your comment on the back end of the Princess ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love the beach Posted May 2, 2009 #45 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Once again, InletCam to the rescue! :D Veendam arrived just before midnight Thursday - now Friday here. I managed a shot. Fabulous picture, Inletcam!! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy paul Posted May 2, 2009 #46 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I always thought the back of Princess large ships looked like giant shopping carts. I alsways expect one of the kitchen staff to be on the pier trying to push the ship using the walkway for the cart handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnastasiaBeaverhouseIII Posted May 3, 2009 #47 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I was hoping that the updated Veendam would look more like the attached image. Well at least it is not as hideous as the NCL Epic. <br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hflors Posted May 3, 2009 Author #48 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I was hoping that the updated Veendam would look more like the attached image. Well at least it is not as hideous as the NCL Epic. <br> I dont see the "Cracker Barrel" sign!!!!!! And no Dairy Queen? What is this world coming to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyPet Posted May 3, 2009 #49 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Kathy, we have a place in Bryce. Is that what you are talking about? S. We are 5 miles north of the Town of Front Royal halfway between Front Royal and Winchester on Rt 340/522. Exit 6 off I 66 Moved here from Ashburn in Jan 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhansaMi Posted May 3, 2009 #50 Share Posted May 3, 2009 We are 5 miles north of the Town of Front Royal halfway between Front Royal and Winchester on Rt 340/522. Exit 6 off I 66 Moved here from Ashburn in Jan 07. Practically neighbors, then! We are in Cascades, and have a place at Bryce. We'll wave as we drive by! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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