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Steelers36 did the math and showed for that set of circumstances if each person would spend more than $33/day on beverages in the package, the Plus package is worth getting.

I do not think any of the younger people that they are marketing to will say "Hey, I will choose Princess because they are reducing benefits for loyal cruisers of any age."

Several Island Princess questions: o Which dining room is used for Club Class ? o How was the Internet speed and reliability? o Were soap bars available upon request for the bathroom? o Besides On The Bayou, what were the other production shows? Thanks

You booked during a Princess sale that priced a balcony for the cost of an inside cabin.

I think Princess expected it to be more: a great advertisement for being on a Princess cruise. The current Princess ad campaign is called "The Love Boat Sale." Additionally, the Princess sales E-mails promote watching "The Real Love Boat" show.

And again one of the most active stocks on the NYSE.

Swap the full setup for two coffee "cards". One will be placed on each of the first 2 occupants' onboard accounts.

Princess finds the money from the Plus and Premier packages results in higher onboard revenue than than before these packages were available. The income from both packages is counted as onboard revenue and CCL Corp reports higher on board revenue across its brands with these type packages. I do not know how much of the amount paid for Plus/Premier packages is allocated to the beverage department, but it is significant. Since Princess recently increased the cost of the Plus packager by $10/day. Since tips and Internet pricing have remained the same, I assume the entire $10 goes into the beverage part of the ledger. Princess expects 50% of its passengers to get the Plus package. On a ship with 3000 passengers, that would be about 1500 with the Plus package (and 25% more having the Premier package). For 1500 passengers at $10/day more for a 7 day cruise, the extra revenue for Princess with this $10 increase is $105,000.

Agree, but your original statement was not referencing any of these, just(correctly) the value of the military and stock holder's benefit. With Princess expecting 75% of passengers to have either Plus or Premier packages, then the value of the mini-bar approaches zero for them with the only benefit being canned soda as the other items are part of the included beverage package. Ditto for the Internet benefit for one device at a time per person since that is also included.

Some cruise lines devote more space to future sales that Princess ever has

Agree. But those benefits are available to a first time Princess customer and can be a part of the financial equation for anyone.

If my benefits are not that good anymore on Princess and I have few benefits, if any, on like xyz, then I have no incentive to book either line for a similar itinerary other than price and perceived onboard experience. And my experience with Princess' competition is that the onboard experience is not significantly different overall.

There is a difference between expanding your customer base and indicating to your current loyal customer base that you do not think they are important to you anymore. Pre-pandemic, Princess essentially sailed at 100% capacity. This included many long-time customers who often made the choice between Princess and competing cruises lines with essentially the same itineraries with the benefits that Elite passengers had in mind. With the elimination of many of the Elite and loyal customer perks, Princess is indicating that they do not mind if the loyal customers are loyal no more.

Me. By the way, even many people with cell phones find it is easier and quicker to perform many computer tasks on a desktop with a real keyboard than on a cell phone with its tiny screen.

Princess also promotes itself as a "Luxury Cruise Line."

We have never had to do this outside on a Princess ship. All muster stations are inside and that is where the life vest demo was. We have had to do this outside on HAL, Celebrity, Carnival and RCI.

Not sure what that has to do with the Australia show being on opposite a very popular show on another network at the same time with that being one reason for low viewership.

If you w3alk down the hallway past your cabin, the Medallion will unlock it even if you do not intend to go in. I do not know how long the cabin remains unlocked, but someone right behind you might be able to go inside it.

The article does say it was on opposite a very popular TV show on another channel, so many viewers did not tune in to see how bad it really is.

Maybe because inside and window cabins (balcony cabins did not exist) did not have a bed for two people. There was a couch which turned into a bed at night and a fold out bed from the wall perpendicular to that first bed.

"Smaller" means something different now than a few years ago. What was smaller on Princess then were ships with 700 to 1200 passengers. Nowadays smaller on Princess means 2100 passengers. In the not to distant future smaller on Princess may be 3100 passengers. All of Carnival Corp, not just Princess, has a strategy of expanding capacity to meet normal growing demand. It is not the intent to flood the market with too many berths so that prices have to be discounted. As new larger (and more efficient) ships are introduced, the intent is to dispose of the smaller (and less efficient) ships so that capacity is not growing faster than the normal growth in cruise passengers would occur. To me it is not a case of what age passengers Princess is trying to attract. It is more can they attract passengers or any age who love to repeat FLL-St.Thomas-St. Maarten-Private Island-FLL (or similar elsewhere in the world*) itineraries over and over. (* think visiting Cozumel in the Western Caribbean or Barcelona in the Med for the umpteenth time)

Were these cruise ships as we know them today or were they just Trans-Atlantic transportation? (No stopping at multiple ports in Iceland and Greenland on the way along with shore excursions)

That was a fantastic (sold out) cruise. Even the President of Princess, who had been scheduled to be on the cruise, had to give up her full suite and skip the cruise so that GTY passengers could be accommodated.

The original show is credited with really introducing the idea of cruising itself to the general public. Before that show there had not been knowledge of and demand for this type of vacation. It is too early to know for this show (and most of us will not be watching any more of it to find out) if the show does picture why Princess might be a special vacation product to choose. Having cocktails, eating dinner, meeting strangers (attractive or not) does not have to take place on a Princess cruise ship. And hopefully anyone who does book Princess because they saw this show will not expect to have dinner at "The Captain's Table" with a Captain who feels an important part of his job is to promote romance.

I received an invitation to bid for upgrades to 5 types of full suites. Only 2 of the 5 currently have availability on the Princess web site, so I could only make pricing comparisons to those two. What I did was compare the "savings" if the bid accepted was the lowest possible and if the bids accepted was the highest possible. The comparison was made comparing the difference between what the list price was for my cabin at the time I booked it and what the current Princess web site pricing is for these 2 full suite types if I wanted to pay full price for an upgrade. Prices are per person. a) Penthouse suite o savings over current pricing if lowest possible bid accepted $2765 o savings over current pricing if highest possible bid accepted $825 b) Owner's suite o savings over current pricing if lowest possible bid accepted $3415 o savings over current pricing if highest possible bid accepted $760