I consistently track prices for suites, and Star. The 1st and 2nd passenger prices now are outrageous unless you want to sail from Galveston. Throw in KSF and the cruise becomes much cheaper in the suites for afamily of 4 under 12. These suites are selling for sure on the newer ships. Even the older non CK ships suite prices are very high, while the balcony, ov and interiors are pretty good deals.