Double Book Suite

[Clay Clayton]

Clay Clayton you totally crack me up!!! One of these days we just must be on the same cruise!

All you gotta do is kick yo Momma to the curb or get NCL to allow the balcony room to be added to "your" suite....and I am there! And I will of course gladly pay my own DSC!:D

[Demonyte]

I think some posters don't see the logic in the OPs post, which proposed to add a guest to a Suite AND pay for the guest to sleep somewhere else. Why shouldn't they recieve all benefits? Perhaps the computers/luggage can't handle it, but by the logic of money, NCL and other perked customers are in no way being ripped off by a non-paying person from a non suite part of the ship.

 

I don't remember seeing anyone being against paying for the 4th person fare for the suite AND the normal fare to the mini-suite AND the single supplement for that too - IF that was technically possible, which it is not. (As said in message #2 in this thread, that'd be really expensive.)

 

I'm amongst the ones thinking that somebody not booked in a suite should not get personal suite perks (suite pax with additional guests having a butler serving dinner in a suite or having concierge making dinner reservations etc doesn't count).

 

I personally think that it'd be outright rude to even ask for something like that - if it was offered purely out of concierge's discretion without specifically asking (or even subtly hinting) for them then it'd be ok as they have the power to give pax VIP status regardless of the cabin class.

 

There are always choices to be made when planning a cruise and if one wants to get suite perks, one should book a separate suite or one suite that is large enough for the whole group travelling - not a suite and for example a cheap inside cabin.

 

You get what you pay for and unless you are willing/able to pay enough, you should be happy what you are entitled to (I do admit that the possibilities may get quite limited with certain group configurations but then cruising might not be the best choice to begin with).

 

Just my $0.02.

[DMH15]

All you gotta do is kick yo Momma to the curb or get NCL to allow the balcony room to be added to "your" suite....and I am there! And I will of course gladly pay my own DSC!:D

 

We actually have 2 guys from our roll call in that cabin for our cruise. Now, unfortunately for US they are a couple and not a father/son duo who are single and our types :) Oh well, I am sure our neighbors will be lots of fun anyway. :)

[Clay Clayton]

Oh, you didn't know? THAT cabin is the official gay cabin on SUN? LOL

 

Tell them that the other preferred cabin is either of the two forward facing balconies on Deck 11. While I enjoyed our wake view, the HUGE balcony and room for those cabins is even better.

[DMH15]

Oh, you didn't know? THAT cabin is the official gay cabin on SUN? LOL

 

Tell them that the other preferred cabin is either of the two forward facing balconies on Deck 11. While I enjoyed our wake view, the HUGE balcony and room for those cabins is even better.

 

Clay, I read this thread to my mom. She said she is NOT budging!

 

Maybe next time.

 

By the way she told me to be careful of people you meet on the internet. (BTW, she was laughing not serious). LOL.

[Clay Clayton]

By the way she told me to be careful of people you meet on the internet.

 

Your mamma is a wise woman!

[CPT Trips]

I agree. :rolleyes: However I have never seen the problem with family members that cruise in a mini suite connected to a 2 bedroom suite IF the 2 bedroom suite has otherwise max 4 people in it. As I see it:

 

1. booking all 6 into the 2 bedroom suite --> would mean 6 people at Cagney's for breakfast and lunch

2. booking 4 people into the 2 bedroom suite and 2 people into the connecting mini suite --> would mean 6 people at Cagney's for breakfast and lunch if NCL would extend the Cagney's privilege for the connecting mini suite pax also

 

Option 1 is cheaper for the family (as you pay only the extra person fare for pax 5-6 in the suite which is usually max $499/pp and usually lower) but provides not much space. Option 2 is more expensive but provides more space.

 

For me personally it wouldn't matter one bit if a family (even extended one including grandparents) would choose option 2 and gain access to Cagney's. I know many think the opposite but this is my view. :D

 

 

I like the way you think!

[CPT Trips]

You miss the math since NCL is only making on board money from one person they are giving up what they could have earned from the others that could have occupied in that room. NCL's goal is to sell out the ship.

 

Would your mom pay double DSC too?

 

This is perhaps one reason they don't do it. You have to look at the big pucture.

 

A family suite on the Dawn is advertised as sleeping 4-6 with pax 3 thru 6 paying 249 for a 7 day. If I put 2 in the suite and 2 more anywhere else on the ship (cheapest cabin 429), how does NCL lose money? And how does that over load Cagney's?

[Demonyte]

A family suite on the Dawn is advertised as sleeping 4-6 with pax 3 thru 6 paying 249 for a 7 day. If I put 2 in the suite and 2 more anywhere else on the ship (cheapest cabin 429), how does NCL lose money? And how does that over load Cagney's?

 

NCL loses money because there are less pax spending money onboard because they'd make more than the $180pp difference if the inside could be sold to another passengers who now can not be accomodated at all.

 

And still because most people try to reason their thoughts with privacy and comfort, they are in fact trying to convert an inside to a suite's external bedroom without being willing to pay the price for a real 2br suite they actually want to have.

 

About over loading Cagney's, the ships are planned for double occupancy so all extra passengers in cabins are just that, "extra". While the 2 pax in your example wouldn't exactly make a difference, Cagney's will be more crowded when there are a lot of families travelling in the suites (upto the point where it could be packed) so anyone not paying for the perks should not come there to make the situation any worse.

[DMH15]

NCL loses money because there are less pax spending money onboard because they'd make more than the $180pp difference if the inside could be sold to another passengers who now can not be accomodated at all.

 

And still because most people try to reason their thoughts with privacy and comfort, they are in fact trying to convert an inside to a suite's external bedroom without being willing to pay the price for a real 2br suite they actually want to have.

 

About over loading Cagney's, the ships are planned for double occupancy so all extra passengers in cabins are just that, "extra". While the 2 pax in your example wouldn't exactly make a difference, Cagney's will be more crowded when there are a lot of families travelling in the suites (upto the point where it could be packed) so anyone not paying for the perks should not come there to make the situation any worse.

 

Thanks for giving a succinct reply.

 

And I do agree. However, the Sun does not have any 2 bedroom suites. Like Clay brought up, with the balcony connecting to the SE it could serve as a two bedroom suite. My mom and I could use the living room as a living room and she could have a real bedroom. Do I think this should be automatic? No. What if there were provisions such as no more pax in the balc as the suite, it must be connecting AND the balcony rate changes to 150% to 200% of the cost.

 

I chuckle with how many people try to get non suite pax into Cagney's b&l for free. Then savvy NCL offered a once per cruise at $25 I believe, in a select situation. That changes things. Most people are looking for free perks.

[Demonyte]

And I do agree. However, the Sun does not have any 2 bedroom suites. Like Clay brought up, with the balcony connecting to the SE it could serve as a two bedroom suite.

 

Yep, that's the unfortunate fact, not all ships provide all suite configurations, but it's the same for Garden Villas etc.

 

Perhaps NCL could think of offering the suite and adjoining balcony as 2br combo but until that would happen, there are (sometimes tough) choices to be made by the passenger while planning the cruise.

[DMH15]

Yep, that's the unfortunate fact, not all ships provide all suite configurations, but it's the same for Garden Villas etc.

 

Perhaps NCL could think of offering the suite and adjoining balcony as 2br combo but until that would happen, there are (sometimes tough) choices to be made by the passenger while planning the cruise.

 

Totally agree. Bottom line NCL's ships, NCL's rules. And I respect that.

[Fydlstyx]

That was generous they let her join you once.

 

I agree! I wondered what the mother's age had to do with anything?

[DMH15]

I agree! I wondered what the mother's age had to do with anything?

 

Thought the same thing. Found it amusing, because I expect on some sailings 85 might just be the average age. I know it felt like it was on my Transatlantic on the Jewel... Not that it bothered me.

[Clay Clayton]

Thanks for giving a succinct reply.

 

And I do agree. However, the Sun does not have any 2 bedroom suites. Like Clay brought up, with the balcony connecting to the SE it could serve as a two bedroom suite. My mom and I could use the living room as a living room and she could have a real bedroom. Do I think this should be automatic? No. What if there were provisions such as no more pax in the balc as the suite, it must be connecting AND the balcony rate changes to 150% to 200% of the cost.

 

Other than the three bedroom garden villas, does any NCL ship have a suite with two true bedrooms? Those suites with the kids bedroom/luggage storage room are not IMHO really a two bedroom suite, if you have four adults. I have to believe that the original intent of the bow facing balcony staterooms on Sun which adjoin the Owner's suites was for them to sometimes serve as a second suite bedroom...the are decorated like a suite. I think Donna's suggestion of a 150% price increase makes a lot of sense....and if I ever get around to running NCL that's what I will do:rolleyes:

[LegallyBlonder]

Yep, that's the unfortunate fact, not all ships provide all suite configurations, but it's the same for Garden Villas etc.

 

Perhaps NCL could think of offering the suite and adjoining balcony as 2br combo but until that would happen, there are (sometimes tough) choices to be made by the passenger while planning the cruise.

 

I am really glad that I did a search for "suite connecting perks" and found this, because was just about to post asking about perks (most importantly to me, priority embarkation and disembarkation for the group, and maybe Haven access as a secondary), for balconies connected to suites that are booked together, and I'm sure I would have gotten some nasty-grams from those assuming that I'm just trying to get "something for nothing" (you know what they say about those who assume...)

 

In actuallity, I would be happy to pay for a 2nd Haven suite on the Gem, but the fact that some suites (like the haven owner's suites on 10) have a connecting balcony is the attractive feature to me, since no suites actually connect to each other. We are a traveling party of 7, which includes us and our three very young children (5,3, 6 mo.) and my parents. We love a set-up where we can put the kids to bed in separate rooms, yet all still socialize in the common area. I do wish that for these suites with connecting balconies, they would devise a plan whereby they charge extra to enjoy the same perks, ONLY IF THE ROOM IS CONNECTING TO A SUITE. It seems like an easy and logical solution. I could not care less about the mediocre breakfast and lunch at Cagney's, but I am not about to leave my parents (and possibly one of my children, depending on the suite capacity) in an hours long check-in line, as the rest of my family and I are escorted aboard immediately. It really makes no sense to me that a group would want a suite with connecting room that cannot enjoy the same suite perks with the rest of the group, and I would bet that the vast majority of people interested in such a suite-connecting situation, would be happy to pay the extra. We most recently all sailed together in the Gem's Garden Villa, but it's a little disappointing that this is the only ideal option for a party like ours. Oh well, it's certainly not going to stop me from crusing with NCL, or any other line, but we can all have our own wishlist, right?

[puddles99]

In actuality, I would be happy to pay for a 2nd Haven suite on the Gem, but the fact that some suites (like the haven owner's suites on 10) have a connecting balcony is the attractive feature to me, since no suites actually connect to each other. We are a traveling party of 7, which includes us and our three very young children (5,3, 6 mo.) and my parents. We love a set-up where we can put the kids to bed in separate rooms, yet all still socialize in the common area. I do wish that for these suites with connecting balconies, they would devise a plan whereby they charge extra to enjoy the same perks, ONLY IF THE ROOM IS CONNECTING TO A SUITE. It seems like an easy and logical solution. I could not care less about the mediocre breakfast and lunch at Cagney's, but I am not about to leave my parents (and possibly one of my children, depending on the suite capacity) in an hours long check-in line, as the rest of my family and I are escorted aboard immediately. It really makes no sense to me that a group would want a suite with connecting room that cannot enjoy the same suite perks with the rest of the group, and I would bet that the vast majority of people interested in such a suite-connecting situation, would be happy to pay the extra. We most recently all sailed together in the Gem's Garden Villa, but it's a little disappointing that this is the only ideal option for a party like ours. Oh well, it's certainly not going to stop me from crusing with NCL, or any other line, but we can all have our own wishlist, right?

 

This actually makes a ton of sense - I wonder if such arrangements could be made for this type of accommodation. Perhaps you could call and speak with a supervisor (or have your TA make a few calls) and see what's possible?

[toyotaford]

Quick question-

Traveling with wife and kid in a family villa and my mom wants to come. We are in a suite currently. Can we book my mom into our suite (there is space) so that she gets suite perks (haven, cagneys ) and also book her as a solo in an inside cabin so that she is not sleeping in our actual room?

 

Anyone ever try this?

 

TIA for any insight.

I tried to do this last year. We were in an owners suite which slept 4 but two had to sleep on pull out. I wanted to pay 3rd and 4th guest rate for my parents so they could enjoy perks but book them an inside to sleep in. Our NCL agent checked and there was no way to do it..

[jdvmd]

Your Cruise Lady is incorrect.

[Fishbait17]

I am really glad that I did a search for "suite connecting perks" and found this, because was just about to post asking about perks (most importantly to me, priority embarkation and disembarkation for the group, and maybe Haven access as a secondary), for balconies connected to suites that are booked together, and I'm sure I would have gotten some nasty-grams from those assuming that I'm just trying to get "something for nothing" (you know what they say about those who assume...)

 

In actuallity, I would be happy to pay for a 2nd Haven suite on the Gem, but the fact that some suites (like the haven owner's suites on 10) have a connecting balcony is the attractive feature to me, since no suites actually connect to each other. We are a traveling party of 7, which includes us and our three very young children (5,3, 6 mo.) and my parents. We love a set-up where we can put the kids to bed in separate rooms, yet all still socialize in the common area. I do wish that for these suites with connecting balconies, they would devise a plan whereby they charge extra to enjoy the same perks, ONLY IF THE ROOM IS CONNECTING TO A SUITE. It seems like an easy and logical solution. I could not care less about the mediocre breakfast and lunch at Cagney's, but I am not about to leave my parents (and possibly one of my children, depending on the suite capacity) in an hours long check-in line, as the rest of my family and I are escorted aboard immediately. It really makes no sense to me that a group would want a suite with connecting room that cannot enjoy the same suite perks with the rest of the group, and I would bet that the vast majority of people interested in such a suite-connecting situation, would be happy to pay the extra. We most recently all sailed together in the Gem's Garden Villa, but it's a little disappointing that this is the only ideal option for a party like ours. Oh well, it's certainly not going to stop me from crusing with NCL, or any other line, but we can all have our own wishlist, right?

 

There most definitely are connected suites on the Gem - forward Owners Suites on decks 9 and 10 connect to the forward suites next door (sorry, don't know the designator at the moment). Of course, these second suites do not have Haven access like the OS, but it works for everything else (I have booked them connected for my children). Perhaps you could stay in the OS, have your parents in the connected suite, and put your children to bed temporarily in their suite while you use the OS living room, switching them to the sofa bed when you and your parents head to bed. Alternately, you could stay in a two bedroom Haven Villa with your children, and book a Haven Penthouse next door for your parents (not connected but close!).

 

Robin

[LegallyBlonder]

There most definitely are connected suites on the Gem - forward Owners Suites on decks 9 and 10 connect to the forward suites next door (sorry, don't know the designator at the moment). Of course, these second suites do not have Haven access like the OS, but it works for everything else (I have booked them connected for my children). Perhaps you could stay in the OS, have your parents in the connected suite, and put your children to bed temporarily in their suite while you use the OS living room, switching them to the sofa bed when you and your parents head to bed. Alternately, you could stay in a two bedroom Haven Villa with your children, and book a Haven Penthouse next door for your parents (not connected but close!).

 

Robin

 

That's good to know, in general- thanks! For the most recent cruise that we took, and for ones we are looking at next (leaving NYC in the winter), the Haven is pretty important for the two cold days, mostly for the kids. I thought about the two Haven suites in close proximity option, though at the point that you are getting a Haven 2 bedroom AND another neighboring Haven suite, I wonder if the GV wouldn't actually be more cost effective (if you can believe that!), as well as obviously more convenient.

[TrinaLC]

Darn. I was thinking of getting a solo room for DH on Getaway/Breakaway, and also adding him as a third pax in our Haven suite if the fare were reasonable....

 

No one has had success with this?

[GeezerCouple]

Darn. I was thinking of getting a solo room for DH on Getaway/Breakaway, and also adding him as a third pax in our Haven suite if the fare were reasonable....

 

No one has had success with this?

 

YES, it IS possible.

 

You need to speak with a PCC who knows about this and how to do it, rather than one who will automatically state (without checking or without checking "enough") that it is "not possible".

 

If the first PCC says "no way", hang up and call back for another PCC, etc.

 

It IS possible, and it HAS been done.

Good luck!

 

GeezerCouple

[Kells3738]

Quick question-

Traveling with wife and kid in a family villa and my mom wants to come. We are in a suite currently. Can we book my mom into our suite (there is space) so that she gets suite perks (haven, cagneys ) and also book her as a solo in an inside cabin so that she is not sleeping in our actual room?

 

Anyone ever try this?

 

TIA for any insight.

 

We just go back from a Jewel cruise where we had an aft suite, and our kids had a balcony room next to us. They were always allowed in to Moderno with us for breakfast and lunch (we all had the ultimate dining package, although I don't think that mattered), and were able to take advantage of the special boarding and disembarkation, also with us. Since to me those are the major suite perks, it worked out well for us.

[Beaver1975]

YES, it IS possible.

 

You need to speak with a PCC who knows about this and how to do it, rather than one who will automatically state (without checking or without checking "enough") that it is "not possible".

 

If the first PCC says "no way", hang up and call back for another PCC, etc.

 

It IS possible, and it HAS been done.

Good luck!

 

GeezerCouple

 

They are starting to crack down on this unique loophole. If the ship is near capacity they may not allow it. We have an existing reservation that includes a double booking into a suite that NCL tried to cancel on us. We contested that they accepted the booking when we made it and they relented but said they are not allowing it in the future.