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If Titanic 2 does transatlantic runs, I will book it!!! I like the idea

and look forward to see Titanic 2 sail.

Cunard gave up on the idea of the QM2 being a transatlantic ocean liner with a consistent schedule. The QV & QE and cruise ships,not ocean liners .

 

There's a reason for that. They can't fill her if they do nothing but TAs for several months in a row. They've balanced TAs and cruises in order to keep her as close to full as possible for all sailings.

 

Beyond the maiden voyage, does anyone know what Titanic II will offer for itineraries? I doubt she'll sell out with a consistent schedule of TAs.

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I must admit that initially I though that Clive Palmer was mad and it was a silly idea that would never happen. However I've started thinking that maybe it's not a bad idea and Clive Palmer is not as mad as I though!

 

The problem with the idea is that it will really appeal to ship-nuts and Titanic movie fans but NOT the vast majority of people looking for a luxury holiday.

 

After all, Titanic 2, will be quite a small ship by modern ship-standards. If he fits 2,435 passengers in it, like he said, it will also be a crowded ship.There will not be any balconies, no Spa and no outdoor swimming pool. There will a Casino and Theatre, unlike the original.

 

I wonder if there really will be 'steerage' cabins with four beds and no private toilets? Who would book one of those?

 

The net is now full of some lovely renderings of the public rooms:

 

http://youtu.be/nlYTJnc2-rQ

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(Note the extra deck with modern lifeboats and viewing gallerias in the first two funnels!)

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I heard ( i.e. read) differenet interviews of this guy- in one he mentioned he does not really care if the Titanic 2 will be a sucess- HE WANT´s to built it. In the other he told the press to be sure that the project would be a big sucess! In our days a strict 3 class ship- without any balcony cabins? I doubt it will work in the long run. 3 rd Class without bathrooms at all - in our time???? They should rething that- I am sure there could be balcony cabins installed

( well other then in the first class) withour ruining the outher appreance. Who want´s to share ones toilet or shower´s with a hundred people???? They should have a nice chat with those poor Carnival Trimuph passengers who were forced to do so for five long day´s !!!!!!

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Are they building Andrea Doria 2 ??????

The Andrea DORIA was a beautiful ocean liner,as well as the Italian Line fleet.

travelers prefer to fly than take the Ocean Liners to the southern transatlantic

route. so ,I doubt if that would happen. The Titanic is a different story:cool:

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There's a reason for that. They can't fill her if they do nothing but TAs for several months in a row. They've balanced TAs and cruises in order to keep her as close to full as possible for all sailings.

 

Beyond the maiden voyage, does anyone know what Titanic II will offer for itineraries? I doubt she'll sell out with a consistent schedule of TAs.

" theres a reason for THAT":confused:..thank you for THAT;)

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I heard ( i.e. read) differenet interviews of this guy- in one he mentioned he does not really care if the Titanic 2 will be a sucess- HE WANT´s to built it. In the other he told the press to be sure that the project would be a big sucess! In our days a strict 3 class ship- without any balcony cabins? I doubt it will work in the long run. 3 rd Class without bathrooms at all - in our time???? They should rething that- I am sure there could be balcony cabins installed

( well other then in the first class) withour ruining the outher appreance. Who want´s to share ones toilet or shower´s with a hundred people???? They should have a nice chat with those poor Carnival Trimuph passengers who were forced to do so for five long day´s !!!!!!

 

While I think balconies are overrated (at least I don´t care for a private balcony on a ship), perhaps the most expensive staterooms could have come enclosed balconies like on the lower decks of QM2.

No private bathrooms in 3rd class - no way anyone but students would accept that. There´s one thing about the third class idea though - it´ll be vastly cheaper than any current fare, likely half price of the cheapest QM2 cabin - rivaling cheaper TA flights, which might make it attractive to a completely different audience who cant dream of sailing QM2 at all.

But the lack of an outside pool and the idea of cramping more than 2400 passengers onto a 45000 tonner, hardly promising.

 

What remains is the sad fact that its about making business with a largescale tragedy. Not anything I can accept, at least not in this form - I admit I joined one of those lavish Titanic dinner parties in the late 90s when the Cameron movie was the talk of the day.

 

I was on QM2 last year on the day of the 100th centenary of the Titanic disaster, when all stood up in remembrance when the Captain spoke.

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While I think balconies are overrated (at least I don´t care for a private balcony on a ship), perhaps the most expensive staterooms could have come enclosed balconies like on the lower decks of QM2.

No private bathrooms in 3rd class - no way anyone but students would accept that. There´s one thing about the third class idea though - it´ll be vastly cheaper than any current fare, likely half price of the cheapest QM2 cabin - rivaling cheaper TA flights, which might make it attractive to a completely different audience who cant dream of sailing QM2 at all.

But the lack of an outside pool and the idea of cramping more than 2400 passengers onto a 45000 tonner, hardly promising.

 

What remains is the sad fact that its about making business with a largescale tragedy. Not anything I can accept, at least not in this form - I admit I joined one of those lavish Titanic dinner parties in the late 90s when the Cameron movie was the talk of the day.

 

I was on QM2 last year on the day of the 100th centenary of the Titanic disaster, when all stood up in remembrance when the Captain spoke.

Interesting point about private balconies and I can see why they might not have much appeal for a cold winter's crossing of the North Atlantic, but I am so looking forward to laying out on our balcony breathing in the warm evening air as we sail through the South Pacific with those beautiful stars overhead and a nice cool glass of a tropical drink in one hand and my wife laid by my side giving names to all those amazing stars, I can't wait... and NO ONE but NOONE mention tropical storms, I am going to live out on my balcony :)

 

I often look at the footage of older cruise liners that plied the high seas and what really stands out is just how windswept the passengers all looked. Most moderfn cruise ships are designed to protect their guest as much as possible from the elements.. This was never a consideration when the likes of Titanic was designed. Wind and spray will possibly be blasting over her exposed decks in any type of sea?? (question, NOT statement)

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This was never a consideration when the likes of Titanic was designed. Wind and spray will possibly be blasting over her exposed decks in any type of sea?? (question, NOT statement)

 

It always seem to be cold and blowing a gale on the North Atlantic crossing, even on a hot August day. Personally I think a balcony is a waste of money on a crossing.

 

On the great Ocean Liners (Titanic, included) passengers were not expcted to spend too much time on deck - it was often too cold and/or rough - so there was no outside pool, for example. Although many had an indoor pool deep within the hull. (There were no rock walls, water parks or surf machines either!)

 

Titanic II Pool Rendering: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4542488-3x2-700x467.jpg

 

Many Ocean Liners enclosed prom decks running along the port and straboard sides of the ship so passengers could take a walk with a sea view.

 

See the 'Queen Mary': http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships%20Misc/Onboard/slides/Queen%20Mary%

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Yes. It was stated in one of the earlier links that I posted or maybe I read it on the website:

 

http://bluestarline.com.au/

 

Here is a link to the Titanic II technical video released today:

 

 

You can also get to it from the actual website.

 

I have to say, I'm actually quite fascinated and would actually like to go and view it on one of the public open days which he is proposing to have at various ports but whether I'd want to actually sail on her, I'm not so sure. I went to the Titanic Artifacts Exhitibion at the O2 in London and they had a reconstructed first class cabin there. They also had a reconstructed third class cabin, or maybe it was a crew cabin, I'm afraid I can't remember now. I found the Exhibition very interesting, and I'm pleased that I went, but I do actually wonder about the viability of running a replica as I can't help thinking, with shared bathrooms in third class, imagine the nightmare if there was a breakout of Norovirus!

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It always seem to be cold and blowing a gale on the North Atlantic crossing, even on a hot August day. Personally I think a balcony is a waste of money on a crossing.

 

On the great Ocean Liners (Titanic, included) passengers were not expcted to spend too much time on deck - it was often too cold and/or rough - so there was no outside pool, for example. Although many had an indoor pool deep within the hull. (There were no rock walls, water parks or surf machines either!)

 

Titanic II Pool Rendering: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4542488-3x2-700x467.jpg

 

Many Ocean Liners enclosed prom decks running along the port and straboard sides of the ship so passengers could take a walk with a sea view.

 

See the 'Queen Mary': http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships%20Misc/Onboard/slides/Queen%20Mary%

Hi London Calling,

Unfortunately one of your images fails to load but that rendering of the swimming pool looks awful. Is it a drawing for the new ship or a representation of what the old one had?

 

When you were in that pool yoiu were certainly 'in it' and there appears very little chance of the contents spilling out over the sides!!

 

Lots and lots of changing rooms for such a small, confined pool and those scuttles take me back... certainly a lot of them and I wonder why.

 

As I said in my post I really enjoyed looking at video footage of those liners dashing across the Atlantic and if you get the oppurtunity.... Look at the angle of lean these passengers have when they are battling against the strong winds that will ALWAYS be encountered during this crossing.

 

Takes me back to when we would go up onto the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, the strength of the wind must never be under estimated.

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...Takes me back to when we would go up onto the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, the strength of the wind must never be under estimated.

 

Well, I guess you'll feel right at home in the Third Class dining room then because it looks just like the hangar deck, only stripped of all the exotic artwork and wall hangings !! :eek:

 

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Well, I guess you'll feel right at home in the Third Class dining room then because it looks just like the hangar deck, only stripped of all the exotic artwork and wall hangings !! :eek:

 

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I thought the third class dining area was very much like the ship's company dining room on a warship but two knives and two forks!!!! How many hands do these folks have? :eek:;)

 

Just watched that nice video link kindly posted by Happyboating and the swimming pool rendering is from the new ship... No votes for its design but no doubt lots of folks may well like it.

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:)

 

I thought the third class dining area was very much like the ship's company dining room on a warship but two knives and two forks!!!! How many hands do these folks have? :eek:;)

 

That certainly wouldn't do for Her Majesty's Royal Marines - by my count that works out at 3 yaffling spanners surplus to requirements and the one that's left would have to be a spoon.

 

J

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Hi London Calling,

Unfortunately one of your images fails to load ...

 

Here is a working link to the image of the Queen Mary promenade deck which I believe is what London-Calling intended to post.

 

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships%20Misc/Onboard/slides/Queen%20Mary%20promenade%20deck-01.jpg

 

Regards,

John.

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That certainly wouldn't do for Her Majesty's Royal Marines - by my count that works out at 3 yaffling spanners surplus to requirements and the one that's left would have to be a spoon.

 

J

:DSo very true and preferably with a sharpened edge for cutting the sausages (breaking out in schoolboy giggles as I reminisce)

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