ROXIETHEHORSE Posted August 7, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I am just curious...does each cruise ship send a passenger list ahead to each port? Would they do this so many days ahead of arrival or just send to all ports as soon as the ship leaves the embarkation port? I suppose this is something I could ask on the Ultimate Ship Tour - if we can get in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted August 7, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Yes. This is done for immigration purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted August 7, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I believe so. It expedites the immigration process and helps get the ship cleared quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROXIETHEHORSE Posted August 7, 2013 Author #4 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantanaLobo Posted August 7, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 7, 2013 http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130613-50293.html "We check the passenger lists as the American authorities do, and found that there was an arrest warrant for him, so we arrested him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted August 7, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Yes, Manifests are submitted prior to the ship arriving in ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartgv Posted August 7, 2013 #7 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Just to clarify, they most likely won't send it to ALL ports, but they will send it to those that are an entry point to a new country or anyplace there is an Immigration or Customs presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 7, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The requirement are port specific so in some cases they are not sent ahead. In other cases they are. In some cases each person has to be seen in person. This varies by port. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 7, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Further, for cruises originating outside the US, and then calling on a US port, the passenger list, as well as the ENOA (Electronic Notice of Arrival) must be sent to the USCG 72 hours prior to arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted August 7, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Further, for cruises originating outside the US, and then calling on a US port, the passenger list, as well as the ENOA (Electronic Notice of Arrival) must be sent to the USCG 72 hours prior to arrival. Do all cruises out of Vancouver have 72 hours after sailing before they hit a US port? Do they transmit lists that may include people who never boarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 7, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Do all cruises out of Vancouver have 72 hours after sailing before they hit a US port? Do they transmit lists that may include people who never boarded? The 72 hour limit is waived if the ship is starting a voyage less than 72 hours before the first US port. No, they must send the accurate passenger and crew lists, and they must be sent as soon as possible, to show good faith in the 72 hour notice. Ships are supposed to send 72 hour, 48 hour, and 24 hour notices of arrival to the USCG. This all has to do with vessel security, and is a post 9/11 regulation. It's kind of like an airplane filing a flight plan, so the USCG knows who has popped up on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted August 7, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The 72 hour limit is waived if the ship is starting a voyage less than 72 hours before the first US port. No, they must send the accurate passenger and crew lists, and they must be sent as soon as possible, to show good faith in the 72 hour notice. Ships are supposed to send 72 hour, 48 hour, and 24 hour notices of arrival to the USCG. This all has to do with vessel security, and is a post 9/11 regulation. It's kind of like an airplane filing a flight plan, so the USCG knows who has popped up on the radar. Thanks . . . Which line has the stealth ships? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 8, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thanks . . .Which line has the stealth ships? :) They wish. The whole 72 hour thing plays hell with the Captain on my tanker. We are a shuttle tanker in the Gulf of Mexico, and have a 52 hour round trip (20 hours out to the rig, 12 hours loading, and 20 hours back), and half the time we don't know ahead of time where we are discharging, so he can't send the ENOA until about 20 hours before arrival. USCG security center is getting used to us finally, as this happens every couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 8, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The cruise lines must comply with the laws and regulations of each country entered during a cruise. A purser once told me that keeping in compliance with each country keeps him awake at night. The requirements vary from country to country so the answer to the OP would simply be, "it depends on the country." Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted August 8, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Bear in mind that the only country that has access to NCIC is Canada. The other countries do not have access, so they are unable to conduct a criminal or warrant background on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 8, 2013 #16 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Bear in mind that the only country that has access to NCIC is Canada. The other countries do not have access, so they are unable to conduct a criminal or warrant background on anyone. Not Interpol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted August 8, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Not Interpol? No, Interpol is not an official law enforcement agency and does not have direct access to NCIC. It is priarily an information distribution organization, and has no powers of arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlendaleCruiser Posted August 9, 2013 #18 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I am just curious...does each cruise ship send a passenger list ahead to each port? Would they do this so many days ahead of arrival or just send to all ports as soon as the ship leaves the embarkation port? I suppose this is something I could ask on the Ultimate Ship Tour - if we can get in!! Are you wanted by the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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