Treven Posted September 24, 2013 #1 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just finished watching a fascinating show on NOVA, Why Ships Sink. It covered ships from the Titanic up through the Costa Concordia. It included some pax filming what was going on and an English translation of the Italian Coast Guard arguing with the ship's captain about him going back on board his ship. This was evidently filmed this past summer as at the end it talked about the capt could get up to 20 years in prison for manslaughter. That seems pretty puny for two people's deaths and the couple thousand lives put in jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted September 24, 2013 #2 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Darn, I missed another ship program! I agree that the 20 years seems puny. I'm guessing Carnival Corp. would think so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treven Posted September 24, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Darn, I missed another ship program! I agree that the 20 years seems puny. I'm guessing Carnival Corp. would think so as well. I'm sure it will be shown again. Check your local PBS station's web site for NOVA, then see what/when is being shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted September 24, 2013 #4 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Darn, I missed another ship program! I agree that the 20 years seems puny. I'm guessing Carnival Corp. would think so as well. I'm sure it will be shown again. Check your local PBS station's web site for NOVA, then see what/when is being shown. The show can be viewed online for free: http://video.pbs.org/video/2223857670/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted September 24, 2013 #5 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just finished watching a fascinating show on NOVA, Why Ships Sink. It covered ships from the Titanic up through the Costa Concordia. It included some pax filming what was going on and an English translation of the Italian Coast Guard arguing with the ship's captain about him going back on board his ship. This was evidently filmed this past summer as at the end it talked about the capt could get up to 20 years in prison for manslaughter. That seems pretty puny for two people's deaths and the couple thousand lives put in jeopardy. That is 32 lives lost, not 2. Today during his trial he placed the blame on the slow response of his helmsman for the disaster. He is exhibiting the same "not my fault" attitude he has had from the day of the disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted September 24, 2013 #6 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The show can be viewed online for free: http://video.pbs.org/video/2223857670/ Thanks for the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted September 24, 2013 #7 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Will have to try to watch it when it is shown again. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 24, 2013 #8 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I have to find its rerun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcoy Posted September 24, 2013 #9 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The show can be viewed online for free: http://video.pbs.org/video/2223857670/ Thanks for the link. I just watched, a very informative program. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted September 24, 2013 #10 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That seems pretty puny for two people's deaths and the couple thousand lives put in jeopardy. While I may agree with you, that's the law in Italy. If that's the law, then I respect it. I don't expect people from other countries to stipulate what our laws should be or visa versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted September 24, 2013 #11 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Q: Why do ships sink? A: Because they can't float any more Quickest show ever ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSLeesburg Posted September 24, 2013 #12 Share Posted September 24, 2013 This program is also on Neflix, so you can stream it for free if you use Netflix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted September 24, 2013 #13 Share Posted September 24, 2013 This program is also on Neflix, so you can stream it for free if you use Netflix... Netflix is a pay service, so you won't be streaming it for free, but you can stream it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted September 24, 2013 #14 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Q: Why do ships sink? A: Because they can't float any more Quickest show ever ;) They fill with water. That was actually shorter, in words. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSLeesburg Posted September 24, 2013 #15 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Netflix is a pay service, so you won't be streaming it for free, but you can stream it ;) He, he - yes, I should have chosen my words more carefully - I implied that in the "if you use Netflix" that is, if you are paying for the service, you can stream it for free :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjc1111 Posted September 24, 2013 #16 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just watched it . . . very good documentary. Interesting to think about the decisions relative to a ship's center of gravity and the subsequent comfort vs. safety debate. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treven Posted September 24, 2013 Author #17 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That is 32 lives lost, not 2. Today during his trial he placed the blame on the slow response of his helmsman for the disaster. He is exhibiting the same "not my fault" attitude he has had from the day of the disaster. I stand corrected. I think where I got the two deaths from was there were two unaccounted for. I remember one exchange between the capt & the coast guard person. The coast guard was telling him to get back on his ship and his response was that he was trying to, but there was something in the way. What was in his way was his cowardness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted September 24, 2013 #18 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Q: Why do ships sink? A: Because they can't float any more Quickest show ever ;) :D Funny Above! Not so funny if you happen to be on one that "won't float no more" .... :rolleyes: LuLu ~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted September 24, 2013 #19 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just finished watching a fascinating show on NOVA, Why Ships Sink. It covered ships from the Titanic up through the Costa Concordia. It included some pax filming what was going on and an English translation of the Italian Coast Guard arguing with the ship's captain about him going back on board his ship. This was evidently filmed this past summer as at the end it talked about the capt could get up to 20 years in prison for manslaughter. That seems pretty puny for two people's deaths and the couple thousand lives put in jeopardy. It was 32 people lost - the two you mention are the missing bodies expected to be found once the ship is floated and de-watered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcwingwalker Posted September 24, 2013 #20 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes, an interesting documentary. It reinforced my preference for smaller ships and reputable cruise lines. Too many incidents with ships associated with Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busmech Posted September 24, 2013 #21 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Not my fault: not in shipping lane: navigators fault reef not on charts: chart makers fault told helmsmen to turn he did not do what I told him: helmsman fault not told that the ship will sink: engineering fault did not ask for help: coastguard did not hear me correctly: coastguard fault could not give instructions p/a did not work: p/a fault fell into lifeboat could not get back on ship because passengers would not let me: passengers fault see its the passengers fault they died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted September 24, 2013 #22 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We also watched that. It was indeed fascinating and illuminating. We already preferred the smaller ships and this show only confirmed our opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted September 24, 2013 #23 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We also watched that. It was indeed fascinating and illuminating. We already preferred the smaller ships and this show only confirmed our opinion. The show confirmed nothing about smaller ships being safer. After all, the Titanic was about the same size as the smaller ships today and it sank with a huge loss of life. The Oceanos was an even smaller ship at 14,000 tons and 550 passengers and it sank, fortunately with no loss of life. The Achille Lauro, also mentioned in the show, was yet another smaller ship, and it too sank. The only large cruise ship to sink was the Concordia, and it didn't actually sink, but ran aground and capsized onto it's side. Size has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3terriers Posted September 24, 2013 #24 Share Posted September 24, 2013 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sprint180 Posted September 26, 2013 #25 Share Posted September 26, 2013 its on Netflix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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