New ship in 2016 - Koningsdam

[InTheWASide]

I saw that. Sorry I meant a separate movie theatre like on the Eurodam

 

 

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Does not appear so but I've heard talk about something that will address that in an area that the microsite has yet to feature;

 

but you are correct - No "screening room" like on Eurodam/Nieuw Amsterdam or like it was put on Oosterdam/Zuiderdam and the ability to do them in the Queens Lounge on the Noordam/Westerdam does not seem like it will be the case given the new configuration of that space.

[Oceanwench]

I finally got a chance to look at the site, video and deck plans.

 

Those things that "stick out" from the Lido deck by the aft pool really do remind me of Regal Princess's SeaWalk.

 

On that ship one of the walks was located right behind the bar, too.

 

The glass-panel floor is pretty cool but at some points you can look straight down at the balconies below.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Oceanwench

[sppunk]

Does not appear so but I've heard talk about something that will address that in an area that the microsite has yet to feature;

 

but you are correct - No "screening room" like on Eurodam/Nieuw Amsterdam or like it was put on Oosterdam/Zuiderdam and the ability to do them in the Queens Lounge on the Noordam/Westerdam does not seem like it will be the case given the new configuration of that space.

With the expanded Queens Lounge, it might allow them to use the main theater for the showroom during the day.

 

Honestly, if HAL gets with the program and introduces technology from 2001 they will have an on-demand TV system with movies to watch so a "theater" space is kind of wasted to the moneycrunchers. It can be better used as revenue-sourced venues (more dining, etc.).

 

What I find interesting is the "Lido Marketplace" name for the Lido, and the deli is called NY Deli and moved away from the Lido itself quite a bit. It'll be interesting to see this area evolve over the next year.

[InTheWASide]

With the expanded Queens Lounge, it might allow them to use the main theater for the showroom during the day.

 

Honestly, if HAL gets with the program and introduces technology from 2001 they will have an on-demand TV system with movies to watch so a "theater" space is kind of wasted to the moneycrunchers. It can be better used as revenue-sourced venues (more dining, etc.).

 

What I find interesting is the "Lido Marketplace" name for the Lido, and the deli is called NY Deli and moved away from the Lido itself quite a bit. It'll be interesting to see this area evolve over the next year.

 

Well if the bedside USB ports and the high-def atrium ceiling simulating the outdoors are any indication I think we're going to see some amazing technology. Bet we might even see some in-cabin "smart tv's"

 

A poolside deli option I think would be much more popular and successful than the Slice Pizza they have on a lot of the ships. In fact I didn't even see that option. The fact they are specifically saying "NY Deli" makes me wonder if maybe there's some sort of affiliation that may be announced later.

 

On a new note:

Anyone else notice the unlabeled bar up on the sun deck? Wonder what that might end up being (if anything other than just a generic bar). Also, seems like the aft pool is missing something but as I mentioned Slice doesn't seem to be there, maybe it won't be utilized as an individual food space anymore.

[jtl513]

No "screening room" like on Eurodam/Nieuw Amsterdam or like it was put on Oosterdam/Zuiderdam and the ability to do them in the Queens Lounge on the Noordam/Westerdam does not seem like it will be the case given the new configuration of that space.

I was thinking that there might a screen that would drop down in front of the front quadrant of the main theater... otherwise any lectures that use slide projections (and most do) would have to go to the Queen's Lounge, and attendance at many of those lectures on sea days far exceeds the apparent capacity of even an expanded QL. Edited November 14, 2014 by jtl513

[PathfinderEss]

Does not appear so but I've heard talk about something that will address that in an area that the microsite has yet to feature;

 

but you are correct - No "screening room" like on Eurodam/Nieuw Amsterdam or like it was put on Oosterdam/Zuiderdam and the ability to do them in the Queens Lounge on the Noordam/Westerdam does not seem like it will be the case given the new configuration of that space.

 

I notice that too, and also did you see they have dropped Northen Lights? Anybody see a Sports Bar or Casino Bar?

Edited November 14, 2014 by PathfinderEss

[casavaha]

I left HAL a few years ago because of the terrible music on the ships. Dancing to decent

music was impossible. So I went over to Princess. More venues for dancing, better ships.

So now I see this new ship and I am wondering if HAL is going to put money into decent

bands. If so I will certainly be interested in cruising with HAL again.

 

Greg

[PathfinderEss]

I really like the colors/decorating for the Neptunes. It's an updated look. I only see 3 drawers which isn't so great. I'm sure there are shelves in the closets but shelves aren't drawers. The mini bar must be under the glass shelving beside the verandah door. I haven't seen a comparison for square footage of Vista/Signature vs this cabin. Is it comparable square footage? Also, it seems whoever posted there is no dressing room as on the other ships is likely right. I can't tell for sure from the diagram.

 

 

From the diagram I'm not seeing any dressing room either Sails, in the Neptune Suites but yet there seems to be one in the SS cabins.

Edited November 14, 2014 by PathfinderEss

[Lizzie68]

From the diagram I'm not seeing any dressing room either Sails, in the Neptune Suites but yet there seems to be one in the SS cabins.

 

You are absolutely right, the SS cabins look like a nice layout with a dressing room, whereas the Neptune suite seems to have a toilet area separate from the bathtub and sink area, but no dressing room. Not sure I like that.

[sppunk]

I notice that too, and also did you see they have dropped Northen Lights? Anybody see a Sports Bar or Casino Bar?

There is a "mix" area between the piano bar and Explorers Lounge, but yeah I don't see any specific sports bar.

 

InTheWASide, I hadn't seen the detail about bedside USB ports. THANK GOD! :)

[Laminator]

I notice that too, and also did you see they have dropped Northen Lights? Anybody see a Sports Bar or Casino Bar?

 

There is a small bar with what appears to be 6 stools in the casino. It is forward on the starboard side.

[sapper1]

You are absolutely right, the SS cabins look like a nice layout with a dressing room, whereas the Neptune suite seems to have a toilet area separate from the bathtub and sink area, but no dressing room. Not sure I like that.

 

Our SS on the Prinsendam had a separate room for the toilet and one sink. The other sink and tub/shower were in another room. Each room had its own entrance plus there was a connecting door. We really grew to like that setup.

[maxout]

Our SS on the Prinsendam had a separate room for the toilet and one sink. The other sink and tub/shower were in another room. Each room had its own entrance plus there was a connecting door. We really grew to like that setup.

 

That sounds very similar to the layout they are showing for it here...

 

[nana51]

slightly better pic of neptune suites.

 

Found this picture online which shows a little more of the room than the pictures on the microsite does.

 

 

beautiful!

[InTheWASide]

I notice that too, and also did you see they have dropped Northen Lights? Anybody see a Sports Bar or Casino Bar?

 

 

Queens Lounge is also the late night nightclub. No sports or casino bar that I saw

 

 

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[kazu]

Our SS on the Prinsendam had a separate room for the toilet and one sink. The other sink and tub/shower were in another room. Each room had its own entrance plus there was a connecting door. We really grew to like that setup.

 

That sounds very similar to the layout they are showing for it here...

 

 

It's nice to see they took something from the Prinsendam that works well:D

 

the rest of the layout is not similar at all, but that layout that is circled has some definite advantages ;)

 

Looks like this ship will have FAMILY cabins as well. I know that will make some people happy ;)

 

a recent article from Porthole magazine for those that are interested:

 

http://www.porthole.com/holland-america-line-gives-glimpse-of-ms-koningsdam-cruise-news-nov-14-2014/?utm_source=Porthole+Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=bf956e2f22-Cruise_News_14Nov1411_14_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_2bb4b07ca7-bf956e2f22-90431449

[rkacruiser]

Queens Lounge is also the late night nightclub. No sports or casino bar that I saw

 

 

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No Sports Bar? Where are we sport fans supposed to congregate to watch our favorite teams play in whatever sports we are interested?

 

On every cruise where there has been games televised and the ship was able to obtain the TV feed in which I was interested, the Sports Bar was packed and beverages were being sold.

[cbr663]

I really like the design choices for the new King. The choice of finishes is certainly more modern and a great step forward.

 

The Queen's Lounge looks wonderful. The Culinary Arts Centre now has tables and chairs which I like. Is anyone else concerned that Deck 2 has basically one narrow hall way in which to walk? This looks like it may be a very busy deck.

 

I hadn't noticed the single/solo cabins. Thanks to previous posters for pointing it out. Great move by HAL, let's hope that the premium isn't too large.

 

The introduction of new dining options is always a welcomed addition. I was hoping that there would have been more speciality dining restaurants.

 

Looks like HAL is taking a step back from the suite experience. Having just one true suite on a ship this large is surprising. Perhaps HAL has learned that the suite life is not its niche and those cruisers looking for a true suite experience cruise elsewhere?

[Folk Singer]

That sounds very similar to the layout they are showing for it here...

 

 

Thanks for sharing.

[Folk Singer]

Thank you for the article from the PortHole on the Ship.

[InTheWASide]

No Sports Bar? Where are we sport fans supposed to congregate to watch our favorite teams play in whatever sports we are interested?

 

On every cruise where there has been games televised and the ship was able to obtain the TV feed in which I was interested, the Sports Bar was packed and beverages were being sold.

 

 

Would assume somehow incorporated into mix. On the ships that have it now "spirits and ales" doubles as the sports bar

 

 

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[InTheWASide]

Our SS on the Prinsendam had a separate room for the toilet and one sink. The other sink and tub/shower were in another room. Each room had its own entrance plus there was a connecting door. We really grew to like that setup.

 

 

Here's prinsendam's ss/sy setup for those that maybe couldn't picture it right off the top of their heads

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited November 15, 2014 by InTheWASide

[hrhdhd]

Here's prinsendam's ss/sy setup for those that maybe couldn't picture it right off the top of their heads

 

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That's a much smarter setup, with what looks like a door just for the toilet area. On the plan for the Koningsdam, there's no door shown to separate the toilet from the sink, so you'd have to walk by the person there :eek: to get to the rest of the bathroom. Kind of defeats the purpose of the separation of the components. :confused:

[OVgirl]

That's a much smarter setup, with what looks like a door just for the toilet area. On the plan for the Koningsdam, there's no door shown to separate the toilet from the sink, so you'd have to walk by the person there :eek: to get to the rest of the bathroom. Kind of defeats the purpose of the separation of the components. :confused:

 

The tub/shower area with the double sinks actually looks like it has 2 doors. One to the sleeping area and the other into the toilet/sink area.

[maxout]

That's a much smarter setup, with what looks like a door just for the toilet area. On the plan for the Koningsdam, there's no door shown to separate the toilet from the sink, so you'd have to walk by the person there :eek: to get to the rest of the bathroom. Kind of defeats the purpose of the separation of the components. :confused:

 

If you look at the diagram in my post above, there is a entrance door to the "main bathroom" (containing the shower, bathtub and dual lavs) from the sleeping area and another door that separates this from the toilet/dressing area and another door that separates that from the entrance hall giving direct access from the dressing area to the closets in the hall.

Edited November 15, 2014 by maxout