Smoking on your balcony is out! Gratuities are going up.

[jackson bernard]

Sure have. I don't smoke in my house and wouldn't consider smoking in my cabin. I do smoke on my back open air deck, outside my office building, in my car, outside when at a bar or restaurant, outside outside outside....get the trend? Maybe that would be why I think banning smoking on an OUTDOOR balcony is absurd...Same as a lot of other smokers.

 

So I will book inside cabins on Carnival and head for casino or smoking deck first thing in the morning if I choose to cruise Carnival again or I will spend my hard earned money on a balcony cabin on NCL as they will allow me to smoke there. Its pretty simple really. PS...I smoke on my deck first thing in the morning in my PJs...IT really does suck having to get up and get dressed to go to deck and smoke...My PJs are usually a t-shirt and my underwear so I guess folks on Carnival ships are gonna get a free show on deck

 

And when we go smoke we are going to smoke. Cigarette after cigarette. We are going to make as most smoke as possible. Long breaths in, huge plumes out, over and over. It will probably make us sick, but we will be in the casino as apparently thats where they want us to smoke. Oh and we will pretend we are playing their machines.

 

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[Linerguy]

Actually some people were not given a voice so I don't see how you can say "customer have spoken loud and clear" when it is truly "some customers have spoken loud and clear".

 

Actually, it should be "ENOUGH customers have spoken loud and clear."

 

People on both sides of the fence have always had the ability to write to Carnival and express their opinion about smoking; if they chose not to, or not enough people did, it's hardly a case of them not being given a voice.

 

Carnival emails surveys to both smokers and non-smokers alike.

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[RuthlessBoss]

There's been a lot of gloating from the non smoker side, probably meant to inflame the passions of the smoker side. It goes both ways and is not helpful.

 

All I can say is that the casino will be a total smoke fest now. Too bad for the non smokers who want to gamble.

 

Go to your smoke free balcony:D

[It's a Ship!!!]

I am a non smoker who doesn't mind people smoking on Balconies or anywhere else. What I just can't understand is how all the people who say they will move to all inclusives and resorts can stop cruising if you can't smoke on your balcony. There are still other places to smoke, and yes it may be inconvenient, but how is that a deal breaker?

 

I'm truly curious. Did you just not like cruising that much and smoking was the only thing that made it bearable? You seriously would rather have the convenience to smoke where you want over all the other things cruises have to offer? I have read literally every post in this thread and I just can't understand. I realize it is an addiction, but does it have to be done in a certain location or it isn't the same?

 

Sometimes you have to be slightly uncomfortable about one aspect of your vacation in order to have an amazing time. I can handle just about any minor inconvenience for a week if I get to go on something as awesome as a cruise.

 

I like to drink. If every cruise line banned alcohol in certain places but allowed you to drink in other places, I would grumble a little, be mildly annoyed, and continue to cruise. If they banned alcohol from cruises completely (I know it would never happen) I would still cruise and I would save a ton of money. Maybe if they banned air from cruises I might have to reconsider my vacation choice.

[Out to sea!]

Actually, it should be "ENOUGH customers have spoken loud and clear."

 

People on both sides of the fence have always had the ability to write to Carnival and express their opinion about smoking; if they chose not to, or not enough people did, it's hardly a case of them not being given a voice.

 

Carnival emails surveys to both smokers and non-smokers alike.

 

When was the last time anyone wrote a letter stating they like some policy a company had. Get real....it's the whiners in the world that have time on their hands that write in complaining about things. And out of 7 Carnival cruises, I have never been offered a survey to fill out. So again, it's some cruisers.

[richstowe]

Why not allow e-cigs ? Because...

Judging from the comments here I am not in favor of allowing E-cigarettes use on balconies.

It seems many here will smoke real cigarettes and when caught will claim they were

just using these harmless products. Given Carnival great reluctance to enforce just about anything,

I'm sure this ploy will work only too well.

 

Tell me I'm wrong.

Edited July 9, 2014 by richstowe

[BIGA961]

For everyone who is upset with this new policy, the fact is that according to the American Cancer Society, less than 20% of American's smoke tobacco, and that number has plummeted from 42% in 1965. I live in the Mid-West in a semi-rural environment where you would assume a lot of smoking happens, and I almost never smell smoke and I seldom see anyone smoking. It is a habit that is archaic and those of you who smoke are in the rapidly shrinking minority and in this case, the majority are being heard. Enjoy NCL...

[BamaGuy44]

Actually some people were not given a voice so I don't see how you can say "customer have spoken loud and clear" when it is truly "some customers have spoken loud and clear".

 

 

When I say customers I mean the customer base as a whole. Kind of like saying the American people chose the president, even when obviously millions of people voted for someone else. Do I really have to explain this?

 

What's clear is that many more customers are in favor of not allowing it than allowing it, or the policy wouldn't be changing. Just because you personally weren't asked your opinion, doesn't mean they can't figure out what their customers' demands are. That much should be pretty obvious at this point. This isn't some experiment Carnival is trying, they're just falling in line with pretty much every other cruise line and service industry in the US market.

 

You can wonder if the decision will hurt them financially if you want, but the business reasoning is already proven.

Edited July 9, 2014 by BamaGuy44

[ObstructedView2]

Thank you Carnival!! We haven't had a balcony cabin in a very long time!

While the smokers enjoy coffee & a cigarette on their balcony, we (used)

to enjoy eating breakfast on our balcony. Got so tired of using our balcony

around the schedule of a smoker using theirs, we switched to inside cabins

years ago. Our next voyage will most certainly be in a balcony cabin!

 

Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!!

 

:)

[Out to sea!]

Why not allow e-cigs ? Because...

Judging from the comments here I am not in favor of allowing E-cigarettes use on balconies.

It seems many here will smoke real cigarettes and when caught will claim they were

just using these harmless products. Given Carnival great reluctance to enforce just about anything,

I'm sure this ploy will work only too well.

 

Tell me I'm wrong.

 

Nope, you're not wrong. If I were so inclined to break rules, that is exactly what I would do. I'd have a real cig in one hand and an ecig in the other. If someone knocked on my cabin, the real cig would go overboard and the ecig would be there as evidence..........if I were so inclined.

[nascarcruiser]

Well for us this is sad. Boyfriend doesn't like cruises but when he saw the one way cruise to San Juan next fall he said ok we'll book a balcony. When I told him this last night that we would be better off with no balcony because he can't smoke on it he said to forget the cruise and book our usual hotel in Cozumel less money and he can smoke on the balcony there. So thanks for dashing my hopes of a cruise Carnival.

[gemsm]

I am a non smoker who doesn't mind people smoking on Balconies or anywhere else. What I just can't understand is how all the people who say they will move to all inclusives and resorts can stop cruising if you can't smoke on your balcony. There are still other places to smoke' date=' and yes it may be inconvenient, but how is that a deal breaker?

 

I'm truly curious. Did you just not like cruising that much and smoking was the only thing that made it bearable? You seriously would rather have the convenience to smoke where you want over all the other things cruises have to offer? I have read literally every post in this thread and I just can't understand. I realize it is an addiction, but does it have to be done in a certain location or it isn't the same?

 

Sometimes you have to be slightly uncomfortable about one aspect of your vacation in order to have an amazing time. I can handle just about any minor inconvenience for a week if I get to go on something as awesome as a cruise.

 

I like to drink. If every cruise line banned alcohol in certain places but allowed you to drink in other places, I would grumble a little, be mildly annoyed, and continue to cruise. If they banned alcohol from cruises completely (I know it would never happen) I would still cruise and I would save a ton of money. Maybe if they banned air from cruises I might have to reconsider my vacation choice.[/quote']

 

I would only stop cruising and reconsider my vacation choice if they banned smoking on all ships period. I will make the choice to cruise NCL or Holland if I want to have a balcony cabin in the future. There is no sense paying extra money for a balcony if I can't smoke on it as that was the only reason to pay the extra for the balcony for me.

[stobe1]

Nope, you're not wrong. If I were so inclined to break rules, that is exactly what I would do. I'd have a real cig in one hand and an ecig in the other. If someone knocked on my cabin, the real cig would go overboard and the ecig would be there as evidence..........if I were so inclined.

 

 

It's the same story as before. Now you're intentionally and willfully breaking two rules? Classy.

 

Again, I don't care about the smoke, but if you flick a lit cigarette butt off your balcony and it blows onto mine while I'm enjoying breakfast or if my room steward finds it and accuses me of smoking and decides to charge me $250, we have a problem.

Edited July 9, 2014 by stobe1

[happy flamingo]

Can they ban cologne? It gives me a headache worse than any smoke smell!

 

 

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[Linerguy]

When was the last time anyone wrote a letter stating they like some policy a company had. Get real....it's the whiners in the world that have time on their hands that write in complaining about things. And out of 7 Carnival cruises, I have never been offered a survey to fill out. So again, it's some cruisers.

 

Well, apparently ENOUGH "whiners" have written in to make Carnival change its policy....and only now are SOME smokers whining about it. So, here's what I suggest: instead of going on about how non-smokers have pissed on the smoker's parade, I suggest smokers contact Carnival and express their displeasure. If ENOUGH people let them know how they feel, perhaps they'll change the policy back.

 

Lets see if smokers have the male wear-with-all to try and do something about it. If it's REALLY that important to them as it is to the non-smokers, it shouldn't be a problem.

 

Oh, and I've cruise 46 times (I admit not all on Carnival) and, with the exception of one cruise, I've filled out a survey for every one....including ALL of my Carnival sailings.

[LMaxwell]

Well for us this is sad. Boyfriend doesn't like cruises but when he saw the one way cruise to San Juan next fall he said ok we'll book a balcony. When I told him this last night that we would be better off with no balcony because he can't smoke on it he said to forget the cruise and book our usual hotel in Cozumel less money and he can smoke on the balcony there. So thanks for dashing my hopes of a cruise Carnival.

 

That's not Carnivals fault. That's your boyfriends fault. Seems like you had your heart set on a cruise and your BF nixed it because of the smoking policy. Relationship is about compromise. He can walk 2 minutes to a designated area to smoke and you can enjoy a cruise ship and new islands.

[halos]

I'm just wondering why this comes as such a shock to anyone....the smoking restrictions OR the increase in gratuities.

[Disconnections]

Just how are you going to take someone's picture through a partition? Have you seriously thought this out? If you want to see your camera floating in the ocean you are free to stick it around the partition.

 

Wow, just wow. Dude are you for real? Yes, I will take your picture.

 

Eventually, someone is going to drop their phone or camera by taking a picture of someone smoking on a balcony.

 

If someone really wants to get a great picture of someone smoking on their balcony... well, they can always attach a GoPro to a GoPole and use Photo Burst a few times at 30 images per 3 seconds.

[Jane2357]

Wow, just wow. Dude are you for real? Yes, I will take your picture.

 

You don't need proof to report someone smoking - I've had to do it once on Celebrity and boom - the security people were right at their door. After a chat, which I believe was a warning, they left. I never had to prove anything. It is not my job to tell someone that they are breaking the rules - but I did in a loud voice from my balcony say that to my husband so that they heard me - hoping the neighbors would take the hint - they didn't and I reported.

[pbsteve]

So he won't throw the butts directly to sea, but he will put them in a coke can and throw the coke can to sea.

I probably just won't smoke on the balcony, I was being a tough Internet guy. So ill admit that I'd be afraid of the fine and being kicked off enough.

 

But if I was going to break the rules, I'd rather throw the but in a can of coke with liquid in it so it's extinguished, rather than risk a fire.

[luvtheships]

But I bet you can sit on the porch of that RV and light up all day long without a problem. ;)

 

I guess so if you are parked in an isolated area

 

However if you are in a state park ) I some states) or a private RV park that bans smoking etc. you cannot light up

 

My point is that smoking in most privately owned areas and very many public spaces is and will continue to be severely limited so it really is something for smokers to consider going forward.

 

That is to expect to be told you cannot smoke

 

On jones beach in ny where anything has been known to go in the past there are huge signs saying "radio free zone". Smoking is not an issue as it is a state park with only certain designated smoking areas

 

My guess is about 1 in50 beach goers ignore the smoking rule at jones. On a huge beach not an issue

IMHO and yes I am well aware that certain areas if the state park allow smoking but trust me not the entire beach

 

Next up someone will say they have a right to sit on a public sidewalk and drink a beer. Um no it's call the open container law. So don't do it

 

Smoke at home in your car ( but not if the car is on state property) smoke wherever it is allowed but don't be upset when you find out smoking is not allowed in most places

 

Just like middle income people moving to low tax states so should smokers if it is that important to you

 

It is not brain surgery. It is doing what you feel best for yourself.

 

 

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[luvtheships]

Yes, you can smoke on about 99.5% of the planet.

 

Of course you can but do you know your geography? Huge amount if water out there that you certainly can smoke on but you need to be in your own boat

 

 

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[chris330r]

To keep smokers happy, perhaps Carnival can just make some balconies glass enclosed for the smokers. This way they can sit out and smoke while enjoying the view and not bother neighbors.

 

It would be a win win win for all....but something tells me the smokers will say now their fresh air is gone which to me, blatantly contradicts what the smoker is doing in the first place.

 

They want to blow all that smoke directly into their lungs, yet they don't care to smell all that smoke themselves when it comes back out----just like the non-smokers don't either.

 

So I'm curious to know....would smokers be alright with the concept of glass enclosed balconies for them?

[Mom33]

Sure have. I don't smoke in my house and wouldn't consider smoking in my cabin. I do smoke on my back open air deck, outside my office building, in my car, outside when at a bar or restaurant, outside outside outside....get the trend? Maybe that would be why I think banning smoking on an OUTDOOR balcony is absurd...Same as a lot of other smokers.

 

So I will book inside cabins on Carnival and head for casino or smoking deck first thing in the morning if I choose to cruise Carnival again or I will spend my hard earned money on a balcony cabin on NCL as they will allow me to smoke there. Its pretty simple really. PS...I smoke on my deck first thing in the morning in my PJs...IT really does suck having to get up and get dressed to go to deck and smoke...My PJs are usually a t-shirt and my underwear so I guess folks on Carnival ships are gonna get a free show on deck

 

Outside many office buildings and places of business, you have to leave the property to smoke outside. Hospital and school campuses are examples too.

No more smoking by the entrances and exits. Many beaches and parks are now no smoking outside areas.

The trend is no smoking in public airspace and it isn't going away.

[Linerguy]

And if they do ban smoking completely on the ship, you can enjoy it all to yourself, I'll be spending my dollars somewhere else and I'll be tickled pink about it.

 

And that's exactly how it should be.