loubetti Posted January 2, 2015 #1 Share Posted January 2, 2015 http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1993/Cruise-Ship%2C-1%2C266-Passengers-Stock-No.-S2135-2687334/Unknown/United-States#.VKcBxI0tFeM Technical specifications Builder: FINCANTIERI, TRIESTE ITALY IMO number: Year built: 1993 Speed: 20 knots Flag: Netherlands Length: 219 m Draught: 7.7 m Tonnage: 55819 Special features: Passengers Capacity: 1266 Crew Capacity: 588 Passengers space ratio: 43,80 Passenger crew ratio: 2,15 Passenger decks: 10 Dining rooms: 1 Casino: Yes Theater: Yes Library: Yes Spa: Yes Fitness center: Yes Lifts (elevators): 12 Pools: 2 Jacuzzis: 2 You start negotiating at $140 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted January 2, 2015 #2 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) HAL has been reported to be offering just about all of it's S and R class ships, seeing which will sell, and at what price. Ryndam and Statendam are already sold. This would meet the specs of the Statendam and the Maasdam Edited January 2, 2015 by CruiserBruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 2, 2015 #3 Share Posted January 2, 2015 10 dining rooms on a HAL ship? Just a few months ago HAL announced that it was transferring 2 ships -- Ryndam and Statendam to P&O in the fall of 2015 (this year). Isn't this an old ad that many of us saw 2 or 3 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 2, 2015 #4 Share Posted January 2, 2015 http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1993/Cruise-Ship%2C-1%2C266-Passengers-Stock-No.-S2135-2687334/Unknown/United-States#.VKcBxI0tFeM Technical specifications Builder: FINCANTIERI, TRIESTE ITALY IMO number: Year built: 1993 Speed: 20 knots Flag: Netherlands Length: 219 m Draught: 7.7 m Tonnage: 55819 Special features: Passengers Capacity: 1266 Crew Capacity: 588 Passengers space ratio: 43,80 Passenger crew ratio: 2,15 Passenger decks: 10 Dining rooms: 1 Casino: Yes Theater: Yes Library: Yes Spa: Yes Fitness center: Yes Lifts (elevators): 12 Pools: 2 Jacuzzis: 2 You start negotiating at $140 million. Only two HAL ships built in 1993; Statendam and Maasdam :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 2, 2015 #5 Share Posted January 2, 2015 HAL has been reported to be offering just about all of it's S and R class ships, seeing which will sell, and at what price. Ryndam and Statendam are already sold. They were not sold - transferred. Read the article here: http://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/11114.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted January 2, 2015 #6 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Insiders have previously reported all S and R ships are for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted January 2, 2015 #7 Share Posted January 2, 2015 10 dining rooms on a HAL ship? Passenger decks : 10 Dining Rooms : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 2, 2015 #8 Share Posted January 2, 2015 10 dining rooms on a HAL ship? Passenger decks : 10 Dining Rooms : 1 An eye for detail; you have it! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted January 2, 2015 #9 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Lets have some fun (at HALs expense). So perhaps one could say that HAL has old ships, with old designs, for old people, who do not contribute much to onboard revenue! In an era when many cruisers expect to be able to book nice veranda cabins at reasonable cost, HAL is operating some ships with very few non-suite veranda cabins. Take a look at the 3 new ships being built for the new Viking Ocean Cruise line. They are 930 passenger ships (a size that many HAL lovers would envy) with all cabins having a veranda. The price of their cruises, which includes excursions, wine-beer with lunch and dinner, no additional cost alternative restaurants, etc...are pretty competitive with HAL and actually cheaper then many HAL ships if one wants a veranda. My prediction is that Viking will syphon-off a fair amount of HAL cruisers. One will have to wait and see how this new line rates with their passengers, but when we look at their overall package, ship size and itineraries it does appear to be a direct competitor to HAL with a far better price/value. Hank Edited January 2, 2015 by Hlitner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Posted January 2, 2015 #10 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This post refers to m.s. STATENDAM see as.... This cruise ship is the 5th in the company's long history to bear the name, and was the 1st of a new class of vessels when it was launched in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 2, 2015 #11 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This post refers to m.s. STATENDAM see as.... This cruise ship is the 5th in the company's long history to bear the name, and was the 1st of a new class of vessels when it was launched in 1993. Good eye Captain! ;) Happy New Year to you and yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Posted January 2, 2015 #12 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Good eye Captain! ;) Happy New Year to you and yours! Hey John, Likewise... Happy New Year to you & your family. I want to keep STATENDAM to her for myself! NY to Bermuda cruises. Keep her blue and give her an orange funnel! ;) What is your planning for the winter? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 2, 2015 #13 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Hey John, Likewise... Happy New Year to you & your family. I want to keep STATENDAM to her for myself! NY to Bermuda cruises. Keep her blue and give her an orange funnel! ;) What is your planning for the winter? Stephen :D If you have Statendam for Bermuda, may I have Maasdam for Canada/NE? :D Blue with Orange funnel sounds perfect! Happy, Healthy New Year, Stephen. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Posted January 2, 2015 #14 Share Posted January 2, 2015 10 dining rooms? 1. Main Dining Room Upper 2. Main Dining Room Lower 3. King's Room 4. Pinnacle Grill 5. Half Room (sometimes for Suite dinners) 6. Hamburg/Taco Bar 7. Canaletto 8. Lido starboard Side 9. Lido port side 10. Le Circe That makes TEN? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 2, 2015 #15 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This post refers to m.s. STATENDAM see as.... This cruise ship is the 5th in the company's long history to bear the name, and was the 1st of a new class of vessels when it was launched in 1993. Thank you. I am hoping the Maasdam and the Prinsendam are around for a while ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whogo Posted January 2, 2015 #16 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I am guessing the 10 Statendam restaurants are made up of some of the following: Lower Rotterdam dining room Upper Rotterdam dining room Pinnacle Grill Explorations Cafe Lido Restaurant (Port side) Lido Restaurant (Starboard side) Terrace Grill? Canaletto? Queens Room? Hudson Room? Half Moon? Crew dining room? Officers dining room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 2, 2015 #17 Share Posted January 2, 2015 It's meant to be read as: Passenger decks: 10 Dining rooms: 1 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 2, 2015 #18 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I am guessing the 10 Statendam restaurants are made up of some of the following:Lower Rotterdam dining room Upper Rotterdam dining room Pinnacle Grill Explorations Cafe Lido Restaurant (Port side) Lido Restaurant (Starboard side) Terrace Grill? Canaletto? Queens Room? Hudson Room? Half Moon? Crew dining room? Officers dining room? On the Statendam as well as other "S" class ships the Queen's Room is now the Digital Workshop. The Hudson Room and Half Moon Room -- no longer used for Suite Dinners -- in fact we haven't had them in years. The Crew dining room and Officers dining room -- I know there is a Crew dining room -- but is there an Officers "private" dining room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 2, 2015 #19 Share Posted January 2, 2015 And did anyone see the mention of 12 pools -- another "error". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 2, 2015 #20 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Lifts (elevators): 12 Pools: 2 Jacuzzis: 2 :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted January 2, 2015 #21 Share Posted January 2, 2015 To help the error mongers read it correctly, this format may help. :rolleyes: Technical specifications Builder: FINCANTIERI, TRIESTE ITALY IMO number: Year built: 1993 Speed: 20 knots Flag: Netherlands Length: 219 m Draught: 7.7 m Tonnage: 55819 Special features: Passengers Capacity: 1266 Crew Capacity: 588 Passengers space ratio: 43,80 Passenger crew ratio: 2,15 Passenger decks: 10 Dining rooms: 1 Casino: Yes Theater: Yes Library: Yes Spa: Yes Fitness center: Yes Lifts (elevators): 12 Pools: 2 Jacuzzis: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted January 3, 2015 #22 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately, before long, all of the smaller ships will be gone. HAL can't compete in today's market with ships of that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 3, 2015 #23 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately, before long, all of the smaller ships will be gone. HAL can't compete in today's market with ships of that size. I know the Prinsendam had only a few years left. For all aficionados of this ship make sure you let HAL know you want another one. And one that is not an imitation of the other HAL ships ;) If HAL turns into nothing but the "K" ships, it will be a very sad day - that's just my opinion of course - I guess I will find out the alternatives when I sail on O for the first time in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted January 3, 2015 #24 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately, before long, all of the smaller ships will be gone. HAL can't compete in today's market with ships of that size. Well if that is the case, and I don't doubt what you are saying, what is Oceania doing with all its smaller ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world~citizen Posted January 3, 2015 #25 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Well if that is the case, and I don't doubt what you are saying, what is Oceania doing with all its smaller ships? Charging higher fares I think.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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