jamon Posted February 16, 2015 #1 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just read that effective 3/1/15 NCL will be increasing its gratuities from 14.00 to 14.95 daily. Just wondering if this will start a snowball effect on RCCL as well as other cruise lines to raise theirs also...hope not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev71 Posted February 16, 2015 #2 Share Posted February 16, 2015 They just increased the drink package and drinks from 15% to 18%. So anything is possible I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted February 16, 2015 #3 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It's $12 to $12.95 for regular cabins and $14 to $14.95 for suites. Given that RCI has recently increased the gratuities for drinks and the price of Chops I would expect them to raise the daily gratuities as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongZuoKuang Posted February 16, 2015 #4 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Of course, we'll all get better service, right? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Paul Posted February 16, 2015 #5 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Might just be the straw that breaks this camel's back😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted February 16, 2015 #6 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Here we go again! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam.Seattle Posted February 16, 2015 #7 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just read that effective 3/1/15 NCL will be increasing its gratuities from 14.00 to 14.95 daily. Just wondering if this will start a snowball effect on RCCL as well as other cruise lines to raise theirs also...hope not.. Another sign of an improved and healthy ecomony when prices increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted February 16, 2015 #8 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Another sign of an improved and healthy ecomony when prices increase. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam.Seattle Posted February 16, 2015 #9 Share Posted February 16, 2015 ??? What don't you understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjoellnir Posted February 16, 2015 #10 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Good that i booked prepaid gratitude then. My fare will stay the same even if they increase the amount in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted February 16, 2015 #11 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Might just be the straw that breaks this camel's back😉 I hope that that's a winkie! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonschooner Posted February 16, 2015 #12 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I get a pay increase every year. I think most people that work expect and get an increase every year. I don't work any harder or do a better job because I got a raise. Should we expect anything different from the people who look after us on the ship. It has been a couple of years since the last increase in gratuities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tserface Posted February 16, 2015 #13 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Increasing the per day auto tip makes some sense. It's a fixed fee not based on any other cost. If the tip were 15% of room cost and it went to 18% then that would be a different story since room costs vary so much. Increasing the auto tip for the bars is kind of a double edged sword. It works OK so long as they don't raise the prices, but if they raise the prices of drinks and the percentage of auto tip then it's effectively raised twice. Plus, 18% tip for bar service seems kind of over the top to me. Even restaurants don't charge that kind of tip unless you have a really large group. I suspect many will compensate compensate by doing less extra tipping (so they are kind of stealing that joy), but since you have no choice paying tips for bar service really they've increased the cost of drinks. I assume this also increases the cost of the drink packages. If nothing else they get a bunch of ticked off people over a very small amount of money. For example, a $9 drink now costs $10.62 instead of $10.35 so it's only $.27 difference. It sounds worse than it is, but it's really like a sales tax more than a tip since you have no choice. I remember when tipping used to be 10% and 15% when service was super excellent, but it keeps creeping up. And, a tip that is non-negotiable (like the bar tab) is not a tip. So, basically, this is just a tricky way to increase the price of drinking. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark290 Posted February 16, 2015 #14 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I get a pay increase every year. I think most people that work expect and get an increase every year. I don't work any harder or do a better job because I got a raise. Should we expect anything different from the people who look after us on the ship. It has been a couple of years since the last increase in gratuities. You better be worth more to the company because you are more experienced, better, more productive, my earnings are up because of you, can't be replaced or some combination of that. I'm not giving you a raise just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tserface Posted February 16, 2015 #15 Share Posted February 16, 2015 There are lots of people that get COLA (Cost of Living Adjustments), but the CPI has been pretty low for the last few years and, at least in the U.S., inflation hasn't been a big issue. Even so, not many people get an increase as a percent of the cost of the products the company is selling. I'm sure there are some people that get royalties, but not just "across the board". I haven't ever gotten really bad serve and I usually tip pretty well. The think that bugs me with the RCI scheme is that I have to pay the tip even if I go get the drink from the bar myself. That doesn't make any sense. Tom You better be worth more to the company because you are more experienced,better, more productive, my earnings are up because of you, can't be replaced or some combination of that. I'm not giving you a raise just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsonschooner Posted February 16, 2015 #16 Share Posted February 16, 2015 You better be worth more to the company because you are more experienced,better, more productive, my earnings are up because of you, can't be replaced or some combination of that. I'm not giving you a raise just because. I probably am a bit better, just by gaining more experience. I guess what I am really talking about is basically a cost of living increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Paul Posted February 16, 2015 #17 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I hope that that's a winkie! :eek: Yup a 😉 wink. Its just my way of laughing at this type of thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cx7owner Posted February 16, 2015 #18 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Increasing the per day auto tip makes some sense. It's a fixed fee not based on any other cost. If the tip were 15% of room cost and it went to 18% then that would be a different story since room costs vary so much. Increasing the auto tip for the bars is kind of a double edged sword. It works OK so long as they don't raise the prices, but if they raise the prices of drinks and the percentage of auto tip then it's effectively raised twice. Plus, 18% tip for bar service seems kind of over the top to me. Even restaurants don't charge that kind of tip unless you have a really large group. I suspect many will compensate compensate by doing less extra tipping (so they are kind of stealing that joy), but since you have no choice paying tips for bar service really they've increased the cost of drinks. I assume this also increases the cost of the drink packages. If nothing else they get a bunch of ticked off people over a very small amount of money. For example, a $9 drink now costs $10.62 instead of $10.35 so it's only $.27 difference. It sounds worse than it is, but it's really like a sales tax more than a tip since you have no choice. I remember when tipping used to be 10% and 15% when service was super excellent, but it keeps creeping up. And, a tip that is non-negotiable (like the bar tab) is not a tip. So, basically, this is just a tricky way to increase the price of drinking. Tom Correct on all counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertbelle Posted February 16, 2015 #19 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It wouldn't bother us if there was an increase. We usually give more than recommended anyways. The service we receive on a cruise is almost always very good to excellent and we appreciate the work the crew does to make our cruise a great vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Paul Posted February 16, 2015 #20 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I get a pay increase every year. I think most people that work expect and get an increase every year. I don't work any harder or do a better job because I got a raise. Should we expect anything different from the people who look after us on the ship. It has been a couple of years since the last increase in gratuities. That makes way too much sense. This is cruise CRITIC, please check any tendencies to be reasonable at the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted February 16, 2015 #21 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It's $12 to $12.95 for regular cabins and $14 to $14.95 for suites. All cabins are now $12 pp/day. Regular cabins are going up from $12 to $12.95 and suites are going from $12 to $14.95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamagirl_gina Posted February 16, 2015 #22 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ok, so......my question is----does the entire 15%, soon to be 18%, go to the bar staff, or do they only get a percentage? Even if they split tips, does the entire amount go to the bar staff or does part go for "admin cost", etc. (i.e. the company)?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tserface Posted February 16, 2015 #23 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I didn't mean to imply that the service isn't typically excellent. Like you, we often give additional and appreciate the crew. I just kind of don't get the logic of calling a tip when really it's a tax. It doesn't mean I wouldn't pay the tip otherwise. Maybe their intention is to move people away from additional tipping because they have more control over the funds and can plan better with it being more like a tax. People can not make de ions up 'not tip' like before. Tom It wouldn't bother us if there was an increase. We usually give more than recommended anyways. The service we receive on a cruise is almost always very good to excellent and we appreciate the work the crew does to make our cruise a great vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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