Rare LMaxwell Posted March 23, 2015 #126 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I hope there is a recovery so the family can have some closure. What a sad event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted March 23, 2015 #127 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just a few things from reading this thread. Yes, the Canadians helped. It is very common for the Canadians to transit this area because they assist with Caribbean drug patrols, along with most other allied nations. The 2 ships that assisted were the HMCS Goose Bay (707) and HMCS Shawinigan (704). Once USCG is on scene, especially at night, cruise ships are typically released. Like my friend chengkp75 said, too many large ships cluttering a search area, especially at night, can be a bad thing....and brightly lit cruise ships don't play well against night vision and IR. MOB from 12 decks up are rarely found. Fact is, the impact from that high usually results in a total exhalation of air, rendering a person with little to no buoyancy. Condolensces to the family. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 Posted March 23, 2015 #128 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) thanks Paul...my friends from on here suggested I call you and ask...just figured 11pm was kinda late ;-) Edited March 23, 2015 by PH8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmonster Posted March 23, 2015 #129 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Actually it was this quote - earlier in the thread - which started it Thanks. I missed that one. Reallyitsmema, I was simply commenting on where I thought the speculation of the passenger being 1d came from. There were many posts where people ask how/why some were saying 16 while the news was reporting 47 or 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean1owner Posted March 23, 2015 #130 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Star Cruises MV Super Star Libra and Carnival Triumph. I only know of two. Carnival Triumph and now this. Thanks both for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetwhiz Posted March 23, 2015 #131 Share Posted March 23, 2015 http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ship-passenger-overboard-20150323-story.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksuljem Posted March 23, 2015 #132 Share Posted March 23, 2015 We were also on this ship. And yes it was a 47 year old man. He was in the room a few doors down from us. I feel for his family. The crew however did a fabulous job. They made sure everyone went back to their room, they checked every room to make sure all were accounted for, and I thought they handled the family the best way they good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 Posted March 23, 2015 #133 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thanks. I missed that one. Reallyitsmema, I was simply commenting on where I thought the speculation of the passenger being 1d came from. There were many posts where people ask how/why some were saying 16 while the news was reporting 47 or 43. the OP and the people I knew on board were just repeating what they heard...16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean1owner Posted March 23, 2015 #134 Share Posted March 23, 2015 43? Why is everyone saying he was 16? Because they like to jump to conclusions and sound like they actually know something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted March 23, 2015 #135 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just a few things from reading this thread. Yes, the Canadians helped. It is very common for the Canadians to transit this area because they assist with Caribbean drug patrols, along with most other allied nations. The 2 ships that assisted were the HMCS Goose Bay (707) and HMCS Shawinigan (704). Once USCG is on scene, especially at night, cruise ships are typically released. Like my friend chengkp75 said, too many large ships cluttering a search area, especially at night, can be a bad thing....and brightly lit cruise ships don't play well against night vision and IR. MOB from 12 decks up are rarely found. Fact is, the impact from that high usually results in a total exhalation of air, rendering a person with little to no buoyancy. Condolensces to the family. :( Thank you for ALL of the information, Paul. thanks Paul...my friends from on here suggested I call you and ask...just figured 11pm was kinda late ;-) Yes we did! ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted March 23, 2015 #136 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Because they like to jump to conclusions and sound like they actually know something. There is no need to be nasty. (maybe you don't think that you are, but you are coming across that way) Someone on board texted someone on land with that information, and she posted it here. The passenger was told that by a crew member. The fact that it turned out NOT to be accurate is not some character flaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 Posted March 23, 2015 #137 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Because they like to jump to conclusions and sound like they actually know something. The passengers were NOT jumping to conclusions.....it was what they were TOLD:rolleyes: Really does not matter if the person was 16,46 or 96........jumped,fell,or were pushed...................sober or not...........A life was lost and there is a family out there suffering today.....Keep that in mind! This is not the time for nasty remarks.... Thank you for ALL of the information, Paul. Yes we did! :p:p Edited March 23, 2015 by PH8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debkaysmith Posted March 23, 2015 #138 Share Posted March 23, 2015 In a time of tragedy and in the interest of sharing useful information... kindness and sensitivity seem to be of the utmost importance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetwhiz Posted March 23, 2015 #139 Share Posted March 23, 2015 ----Stop-drop-and roll--- Stop-being anything but kind drop-to your knees and pray for this family Roll-let the pettiness and unkind comments roll away Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted March 23, 2015 #140 Share Posted March 23, 2015 thanks Paul...my friends from on here suggested I call you and ask...just figured 11pm was kinda late ;-) Ha! Thanks for that...especially considering I had to get up at 4 today. ;) In fairness to all, even initial reports from the ship itself were not clear on the age. I heard everything from 40 to 50 early this morning, which I'm sure accounts for the different ages depending on which article you read. To be honest, I still don't know his exact age....but that's mostly because I was busy with a whole different agenda today. It's a busy time in SoFla! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean1owner Posted March 23, 2015 #141 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Looks like they are still searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetwhiz Posted March 23, 2015 #142 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ha! Thanks for that...especially considering I had to get up at 4 today. ;) In fairness to all, even initial reports from the ship itself were not clear on the age. I heard everything from 40 to 50 early this morning, which I'm sure accounts for the different ages depending on which article you read. To be honest, I still don't know his exact age....but that's mostly because I was busy with a whole different agenda today. It's a busy time in SoFla! :) About 4 posts up there's a link to a news story. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 23, 2015 #143 Share Posted March 23, 2015 About 4 posts up there's a link to a news story. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Aquahound is an investigator for the USCG, so he tends to get inside information, typically better than the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted March 23, 2015 #144 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ok, so I have a question for the experts here--according to the latest, it appears to be a man in his 40's that jumped from a deck 12 railing. First off, from a height of roughly 100-120 feet, he would end up a fair bit underwater upon impact, wouldn't the ships screws potentially pull him down further If the ship was sailing at a fairly high rate of speed? Would also think that would also exhaust all of the air from his lungs very quickly as well. Sad to hear this happened, but these reports are becoming far too common it seems. Hoping these continued reports don't lead to significant changes in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted March 23, 2015 #145 Share Posted March 23, 2015 MOB from 12 decks up are rarely found. Fact is, the impact from that high usually results in a total exhalation of air, rendering a person with little to no buoyancy. Condolensces to the family. :( Ok, so I have a question for the experts here--according to the latest, it appears to be a man in his 40's that jumped from a deck 12 railing. First off, from a height of roughly 100-120 feet, he would end up a fair bit underwater upon impact, wouldn't the ships screws potentially pull him down further If the ship was sailing at a fairly high rate of speed? Would also think that would also exhaust all of the air from his lungs very quickly as well. Sad to hear this happened, but these reports are becoming far too common it seems. Hoping these continued reports don't lead to significant changes in the industry. Paul already addressed that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted March 23, 2015 #146 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Paul already addressed that question. I realize that he addressed that issue due to the fall itself, but was curious if, in fact, this person could have been pulled under by the screws, if that would indeed complete the process if the fall itself didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted March 23, 2015 #147 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I realize that he addressed that issue due to the fall itself, but was curious if, in fact, this person could have been pulled under by the screws, if that would indeed complete the process if the fall itself didn't. Ugh. Thank you for THAT visual! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 23, 2015 #148 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I realize that he addressed that issue due to the fall itself, but was curious if, in fact, this person could have been pulled under by the screws, if that would indeed complete the process if the fall itself didn't. That's a bit of an urban myth. Things along the side of the ship tend to be pushed aside. As well as the exhalation issue, a fall from that height, if not done properly can result in a snapped neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CORKY_Q Posted March 23, 2015 #149 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Because they like to jump to conclusions and sound like they actually know something. clean1owner, if you would stack your signature instead or running it side to side, we could all read your posts much easier. Thanks.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 Posted March 23, 2015 #150 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ha! Thanks for that...especially considering I had to get up at 4 today. ;) lucky I don't submit to peer pressure. .:):):( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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