Richst48 Posted September 27, 2015 #26 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm all for pushing for a larger or even separate "non-smoking" side of the casino. However, there are CLEARLY enough smokers willing to spend money in the casino to make it worth RCL's time. It's apparently worth it to endure the numerous concerns of other cruisers who prefer to avoid the casino. I appreciate the OPs concern - but I have a feeling that the complaints might be fruitless. I've been told by bartenders aboard ship that the "smokers gamble more." It's probably about the money. (PS - as you can see - the smoke doesn't bother me or my screen name would be quite different.) The bartenders are probably correct saying "smokers gamble more" because there are mostly smokers in there and many non-smokers who would normally gamble are staying away because of the smoke. I don't like the smoke but I like to play the slots. On a cruise is about the only time I do and I am usually fairly lucky at them. I just try to sit away from a smoker when I can. I was on Navigator recently and found a good machine in the non-smoking area. I would love for the casions to be non-smoking be we know that's not going to happen so I just make the best of it! As long as I'm winning I'm happy! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankmac Posted September 27, 2015 #27 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yes I did notice on my couple of walks through the Allure casino last week that there were large gatherings of smokers around the bar area who were not gambling. But then there is no rule that's says if you want to smoke then you have to gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakk Posted September 27, 2015 #28 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Someone mentioned smoking on the balconies? Doesnt RCCL prohibit smoking on BAL? Do people still do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 27, 2015 #29 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Someone mentioned smoking on the balconies? Doesnt RCCL prohibit smoking on BAL? Do people still do it? Yes, there have been people smoking on balconies near us on our last two cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elou Posted September 27, 2015 #30 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Excuse me---but non-smokers complained about in cabin and balcony smoking so much, that cruise lines finally gave in. True, I smoke, but it is a PAIN to have to go to the casino every time. It is most inconvenient. Non-smokers made the rule and I have to abide by it. Please remember, it is NOT my fault. You, too, also have to abide by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted September 27, 2015 #31 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Typically Celebrity does not have smoking within the ships.... Thus, the casino is usually smoke free. Happy to say that on Celebrity, the casino is always smoke-free. It's wonderful, what a difference. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincicruisers Posted September 27, 2015 #32 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Carnival had a non smoking cruise at one time. There was not enough people booking the cruise to be profitable. They went ahead and made it smoking again. Not sure if with today's smoke free indoors rule will pressure the cruise lines to follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinostreer Posted September 27, 2015 #33 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The bartenders are probably correct saying "smokers gamble more" because there are mostly smokers in there and many non-smokers who would normally gamble are staying away because of the smoke. I don't like the smoke but I like to play the slots. On a cruise is about the only time I do and I am usually fairly lucky at them. I just try to sit away from a smoker when I can. I was on Navigator recently and found a good machine in the non-smoking area. I would love for the casions to be non-smoking be we know that's not going to happen so I just make the best of it! As long as I'm winning I'm happy! :D Entirely possible that the bartenders say that because that's what they see most often and because non-smokers avoid the casino. That would make sense. However I think if the non-smokers out numbered the smokers and decided to avoid the casino, RCL would certainly take notice. Who knows? I'll come sit by you so your luck rubs off on me. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted September 27, 2015 #34 Share Posted September 27, 2015 They all flooded the casino. No not the gamblers but the smokers. Back from the Serenade TA with rough and cold weather, the captain closed the outer decks (5 and 12) for all passengers for a couple of consecutive days ; deck 11 was too cold - so all smokers had their meet and mingle with "joint" pow wow smoking in the casino. :DDuring these smoke-outs we avoided the casino and saved big on bucks:) Wow I didn't think that was legal! :D;):rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richst48 Posted September 27, 2015 #35 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Happy to say that on Celebrity, the casino is always smoke-free. It's wonderful, what a difference. :) I did not know this and it might make me switch to Celebrity sooner than I thought I would! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVU Posted September 27, 2015 #36 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Someone mentioned smoking on the balconies? Doesnt RCCL prohibit smoking on BAL? Do people still do it? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwm51 Posted September 27, 2015 #37 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCC3 Posted September 27, 2015 #38 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I would rather smokers congregate in the casino, than on balconies. I can do without gambling and save my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biomedbob Posted September 27, 2015 #39 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I actually go and gamble in the casino on Celebrity. I hold my breath and do my best avoiding it on Royal! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammite Posted September 27, 2015 #40 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Worse are those who smoke on their balcony. There should be balcony/cabin cigarette smoke detectors that alert ship security and fines should be imposed. Second offense and off the ship. i detest tobacco smoke. it is awful and this is my biggest fear as i am on a balcony on ios in week. i really hope that there are no smokers near my cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammite Posted September 27, 2015 #41 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Someone mentioned smoking on the balconies? Doesnt RCCL prohibit smoking on BAL? Do people still do it? Yes, there have been people smoking on balconies near us on our last two cruises. is there a mechanism to report people who smoke on balconies and if so what is the procedure? and did said reporting even change the behavior? Edited September 27, 2015 by gammite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casinostreer Posted September 27, 2015 #42 Share Posted September 27, 2015 is there a mechanism to report people who smoke on balconies and if so what is the procedure? and did said reporting even change the behavior? Not that I know of - and we all still hear stories of people smoking on balconies. I'm all about the rules. The rule is - no smoking on the balconies, so those that break that rule should face the punishment (whatever that may be.) Smoking is allowed in the casino - I know that before I choose to walk in. Those smoking in there are following the rules. Until that rule is changed - and it might be in the future - they are allowed to smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submariner Posted September 27, 2015 #43 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I used to enjoy a fine cigar in the casinos until they prohibited it .. So we also get hit from the other end too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhfy Posted September 27, 2015 #44 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I spend a lot more money in the casino on Celebrity. I won't go into a smoking allowed casino; therefore, I don't spend (lose) money on Royal cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rudeney Posted September 27, 2015 #45 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I am not sure if there are any ships that are 100% smoke free. I thought for sure Disney would be, but I am told they have designated smoking areas as well. DCL does not have casinos, and they do not have cigar bars, so there is no smoking inside the ships. They do have at least one designated smoking area that is on an outside deck. I doubt that any ship, for now, is going to totally ban smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpasice Posted September 27, 2015 #46 Share Posted September 27, 2015 is there a mechanism to report people who smoke on balconies and if so what is the procedure? and did said reporting even change the behavior? On our last Oasis Cruise there was a large family in the room next to ours and they were all out on the balcony smoking...really smelled bad...they were foreigners and had those really strong, non filtered cigarettes. I informed our cabin steward and he said he'd notify the head of housekeeping since not only was it against rules but he'd get in trouble too since this was one of his cabins. Never smelled them smoking again. So I guess you just need to notify your steward, if that doesn't work, I'd call guest services right from my room when they are smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtime Cruizin Posted September 28, 2015 #47 Share Posted September 28, 2015 How can it be too smokey when you are in a smoking area? "Like" Reminds me of someone going to a Chinese Restaurant and complaining that there isn't Enchiladas on the menu. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtime Cruizin Posted September 28, 2015 #48 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Formal nights on many ships were designated as "no smoking" nights in the Casino. This was an excellent compromise as it allowed me at least 2 nights to sit at a slot machine without smoke wafting in my face. Yes, I know there is a no smoking section, but none of the machines I enjoy playing are there :(I think a few ships still do this, but none I have sailed on recently.... It sounds like that you make the choice that certain machines have more value to you than the cigarette smoke. At least you have the choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingSal Posted September 28, 2015 Author #49 Share Posted September 28, 2015 How can it be too smokey when you are in a smoking area? When I started this thread, I didn't mean for it to be non-smokers against smokers. I know that casinos are smokey - but I wanted to use my free spins and even that is hard with the smoke. The casino was next to the Schooner Bar on the ship, and we could smell the smoke - it was over-whelming. The point I was trying to make was it is SMOKEY - PERIOD. When there were non-smoking nights in the casinos, my husband and I did go. Could there be better ventilation? Or actually have a small non-smoking casino in another part of the larger ships? It just appears as though the smoke is worse now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted September 28, 2015 #50 Share Posted September 28, 2015 They all flooded the casino. No not the gamblers but the smokers. Back from the Serenade TA with rough and cold weather, the captain closed the outer decks (5 and 12) for all passengers for a couple of consecutive days ; deck 11 was too cold - so all smokers had their meet and mingle with "joint" pow wow smoking in the casino. :DDuring these smoke-outs we avoided the casino and saved big on bucks:) I thought the ventilation/smoke extraction on the Serenade was extremely poor. The entire Centrum smelled of cigarette smoke, as the smoke from the casino didn't honor the smoking boundary.:rolleyes: Our cabin was on the hump on Deck 10, and there were many times when I opened my cabin door and smelled cigarette smoke. I think if RCI is going to continue to allow smoking anywhere inside, they need to find better ways to extract the smoke and odor. I love to play the slots when I cruise, but I've saved a lot of money on recent trips. The amount of smoke in the casino has increased so much I can't stand to be in there more than a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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