knittinggirl Posted February 17, 2016 #1 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Does HAL have an under 500 calorie meal in the MDR? If so, do they also include the nutritional information so I can calculate Weight Watcher Smart Points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted February 17, 2016 #2 Share Posted February 17, 2016 You could email or phone HAL Ship Services and ask about this. I have never seen calorie counts on HAL menus and I seriously doubt there would be much that would qualify as an under 500 calorie Meal. A few appetizers and salads could work for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted February 17, 2016 #3 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I also think this is a good idea - intentionally smaller dinner portions. You can ask for "half portion" but it still comes out a lot of food. Surprise of my life once was the under 500 calorie meal at Applebees - which was surprisingly tasty and satisfying. So it can be done in a large scale food service setting. There is also an entire restaurant in LA devoted to small calories full meals. You can also order from the soup and appetizers column for your main course - which keep this down to small bites. The can pass often for a "meal" or a combination that create a "meal. I rarely order the entree any longer. I am just not a meat and potatoes type person. I am a nibbler ..or grazer? Plus there is a dinner salad each evening that may well bring the calories down if you watch the amount of dressing. Rolls without butter are still fresh baked treats on HAL - they are that good on their own. They also offer marked "spa" menu items, but they often are vegetarian or "sugar free", which I gathered means "fake sugar substitutes". No thank you. Additionally, there is always fresh fruit slices for dessert or you can nibble at a cheese plate for small bites too and cover all the good nutritional bases. Edited February 17, 2016 by OlsSalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knittinggirl Posted February 17, 2016 Author #4 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) About 15 years ago, some cruise lines had a special lower fat/calories etc menu. Appetizer, entree and dessert under 500 calories. W/ Royal Caribbean, it started at 500 calories, went up to 850, then disappeared completely. Didn't HAL have a ship shape menu before carnival bought them out? Edited February 17, 2016 by knittinggirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted February 17, 2016 #5 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Years and years ago had had spa selections on their menu that did have calorie counts but it's been a long time since I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted February 17, 2016 #6 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Years ago HAL offered an entrée that was called Healthy Choice or Spa Choice. Haven't seen that in years. So many of HAL's dishes have sauces on them -- calories!! I always ask for no seasoning since I can no longer handle them and I always ask for no sauces. That helps to cut back on calories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted February 17, 2016 #7 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I would call but I suspect you are going to have to just order wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 17, 2016 #8 Share Posted February 17, 2016 If you count calories so rigidly, I would think you could calculate roughly for yourself. You know if you get a steamed vegetable plate with no butter and a small chicken breast for dinner, you will be under 500 calories. If that is how you always/usually eat, you likely are quite aware of calorie count. Have a shrimp cocktail with lemon and a small salad with low fat/calorie dressing and you will be under 500 calories. Some of our diets are up to ourselves to control and calculate, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare chefestelle Posted February 17, 2016 #9 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The weight watchers site has tips but no actual calorie or points counts. I don't think you will have any trouble asking for things to be left off your serving. Even ask to look at the vegetarian menu in case there is something friendly to your diet on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubfan63 Posted February 17, 2016 #10 Share Posted February 17, 2016 About 15 years ago, some cruise lines had a special lower fat/calories etc menu. Appetizer, entree and dessert under 500 calories. W/ Royal Caribbean, it started at 500 calories, went up to 850, then disappeared completely. Didn't HAL have a ship shape menu before carnival bought them out? Is this an suggestion that the purchase by Carnival Corporation was the reason HAL might have dropped lower fat & calorie foods? A lot of things have been added and changed since purchased happened in 1989,, which is well over 15 years ago. I also remember Carnival Cruise line having spa menu items with calories and fat grams listed about 5 years ago. So, I don't believe Carnival Corporation (who owns each line) is anti-healthy foods. There are many variables in a cruise ship kitchen and even if nutritional analysis is done on samples of food items, there is no guarantee that the nutritional info will be the same each time it is prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise NH Posted February 17, 2016 #11 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Is this an suggestion that the purchase by Carnival Corporation was the reason HAL might have dropped lower fat & calorie foods? A lot of things have been added and changed since purchased happened in 1989,, which is well over 15 years ago. I also remember Carnival Cruise line having spa menu items with calories and fat grams listed about 5 years ago. So, I don't believe Carnival Corporation (who owns each line) is anti-healthy foods. There are many variables in a cruise ship kitchen and even if nutritional analysis is done on samples of food items, there is no guarantee that the nutritional info will be the same each time it is prepared. All Cunard menus include a 'Canyon Ranch' selection for app, entrée and dessert with the number of calories and other nutritional info...and Cunard is part of the 'Carnival' family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted February 17, 2016 #12 Share Posted February 17, 2016 also forbid your waiter to bring the bread basket!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wander Posted February 17, 2016 #13 Share Posted February 17, 2016 cubfan63 - my how time flies. Actually 1989 is several years over 25 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knittinggirl Posted February 17, 2016 Author #14 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Is this an suggestion that the purchase by Carnival Corporation was the reason HAL might have dropped lower fat & calorie foods? A lot of things have been added and changed since purchased happened in 1989,, which is well over 15 years ago. I also remember Carnival Cruise line having spa menu items with calories and fat grams listed about 5 years ago. So, I don't believe Carnival Corporation (who owns each line) is anti-healthy foods. There are many variables in a cruise ship kitchen and even if nutritional analysis is done on samples of food items, there is no guarantee that the nutritional info will be the same each time it is prepared. Not intended. Royal Caribbean had the 500 calorie or less about the same time too, and discontinued it. But RC also discontinued turndown chocolates, newspapers, fox news, fresh flowers . . . That's why were trying new companies. Some chefs don't like low fat because they think it cuts down on the taste. A local restaurant refuses to serve salad w/o dressing. Daddy wouldn't have been back. He insisted on salad w/ no dressing. Edited February 17, 2016 by knittinggirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 17, 2016 #15 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Most of the cruise lines have made cut backs including some of the more deluxe. HAL is no exception. Suites used to have a newspaper delivered to their cabin every port day but that was stopped. There are still fresh flowers on HAL ships but no where like they used to have. Their floral arrangements used to be fabulous but they are nothing like their former selves now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubfan63 Posted February 17, 2016 #16 Share Posted February 17, 2016 All Cunard menus include a 'Canyon Ranch' selection for app, entrée and dessert with the number of calories and other nutritional info...and Cunard is part of the 'Carnival' family. That is great to hear. I've eaten at one Canyon Ranch spa restaurants in Las Vegas. Hopefully the Cunard selections are just as tasty. Haven't found the right cruise for my schedule on Cunard to have the opportunity to try them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnekeH Posted February 17, 2016 #17 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Does HAL have an under 500 calorie meal in the MDR? If so, do they also include the nutritional information so I can calculate Weight Watcher Smart Points? I would NEVER go on a diet when on a Cruise........what a waste.......:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise NH Posted February 17, 2016 #18 Share Posted February 17, 2016 That is great to hear. I've eaten at one Canyon Ranch spa restaurants in Las Vegas. Hopefully the Cunard selections are just as tasty. Haven't found the right cruise for my schedule on Cunard to have the opportunity to try them myself. their Linzer cake desserts are my favorite...enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhee Posted February 17, 2016 #19 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm a WW member, so I understand your concern. I order broiled or grilled chicken or fish with no sauce. I ask if there are 'steamed vegetables' (they aren't on the menu any more, but the galley has them). Salads are "dressing on the side". Desserts are usually the fruit plate, occasionally sherbet or sorbet. Since we have fixed seating our wait staff gets used to my orders and after a couple of evenings they bring the steamed vegetables (they have a whole plate of them, so I share with our tablemates) automatically. They like to tease about the dessert, but they are used to people with all kinds of dietary restrictions. One thing I'd recommend is to make sure you know what a serving size looks like (hand, fist, finger, etc.). Use all of your WW skills and you should be fine. I did a 19-day cruise and only gained a pound, so it can be done. Beware of the cookies in the afternoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOcruiserman Posted February 17, 2016 #20 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I would NEVER go on a diet when on a Cruise........what a waste.......:confused: Exactly how I feel - and I'm currently on a diet!! The biggest cause of weight gain is not WHAT you eat, but how MUCH you eat. If you're serious about weight control, limit your portions. If you go to the buffet and load your plate up to overflowing and go back for seconds (which most of us do on a cruise), you will be overeating, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted February 18, 2016 #21 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A number of years ago someone posted their cruise dining formula: Eat 1/4 of it if it is only okay Eat 1/2 of it if it pretty good. Eat all of it, but only if it is so fantastic you want to eat even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 18, 2016 #22 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wouldn't presume to tell anyone what they should eat. If OP wants to diet, who am I to say 'don't'. They asked for help...... provide it, or don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted February 18, 2016 #23 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Exactly how I feel - and I'm currently on a diet!! The biggest cause of weight gain is not WHAT you eat, but how MUCH you eat. If you're serious about weight control, limit your portions. If you go to the buffet and load your plate up to overflowing and go back for seconds (which most of us do on a cruise), you will be overeating, no doubt about it. Really? So if you eat cake only for breakfast, lunch and dinner that wouldn't matter? That makes about as much sense as everything in moderation. Some people are twigs and get away with eating whatever they like. Others are not so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely other Posted February 18, 2016 #24 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Really? So if you eat cake only for breakfast, lunch and dinner that wouldn't matter? That makes about as much sense as everything in moderation. Some people are twigs and get away with eating whatever they like. Others are not so lucky. Your both right in a way but at the end of the day it all comes down to simple mathematics ...if you burn less than what you put in you gain weight, simple as. Admittedly everyone burns calories at a different level. I load my plate up at the buffet and then go back for seconds but the difference is certainly in what I eat and not just how much. I have a big green salad (leaves, peppers, cucumber etc) without dressing first and then go back for my main meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prescottbob Posted February 18, 2016 #25 Share Posted February 18, 2016 There's plenty of 'smart' choices in the MDR. The vegetarian options come to mind. However, even ordering, say, a NY strip steak will keep the calories within your limitations (with just steamed veggies and no spuds). And, I might add, you could order pretty much anything else (i.e. the featured, aka, Chef Rudi's choice, main course of the evening) but you need just to take a few tastes and not finish the plate. It's all self discipline whether it be the MDR, Lido or and other snacks. It's okay to leave your plate with leftovers. The ocean 'fish' will love you following grinding & discharge of the food waste. Good luck with the diet. Dieting on a cruise ship is really, really hard. I think you can do it! Be well & remain to be so. Bob:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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