18 year old drinking waiver

[sweetpee_1993]

The OP was lit up for asking to do something completely legal on NCL. I couldn't imagine this thread if the OP said they had a 17 year old she was going to give alcohol to, which also happens.

 

Which also happens legally. In Texas a parent may serve their own children (not friends or nieces/nephews) in both the public and home. If I'm in a restaurant with my (now 18 & 20 yro) sons I can purchase drinks that are served to me and I may legally give the drink to my son. Not all establishments wish for this practice to take place in their restaurant in which case it's correct to defer to the wishes of the owners and not do it. Their place, their rules apply. I drank legally in restaurants in Texas when I was 19-20 because I was married, with my husband who was over 21, and he gave me the drinks. Servers cannot serve to anyone under 21 but a parent or spouse of someone under 21 can.

[sweetpee_1993]

I personally think it's ridiculous that a 20 year old couple who have been drinking legally at home for a year or two, will take a cruise vacation and be told they're not allowed to drink.

 

In my province, the drinking age is 19 and 10 minutes across the bridge it's 18.

 

NCL has no legal reason to have a drinking age to match the US, as others have said, the rest of the world has a lower drinking age. If parents want to sign the waiver, I see nothing wrong with it. OP, you will likely not be able to sign for the friend, but I would have a signed letter from their parents just in case.

 

Agreed.

[stetucke]

I have been getting flamed for 2 days, because I said something to that effect. Laws are NOT made to be broken just because mommy and daddy want their kids to do something that they want to do.

 

So than if US law applies wouldn't the ship have to keep charging you tax the whole trip and never open the casino? Or are you just cherry picking the laws you like?

[ryanpatricksmom]

I know I need a drink right about now.....

[pathubia]

I know I need a drink right about now.....

 

:cool: Sounds good to me!!

[zuke2323]

Or are you just cherry picking the laws you like?

 

Well yeah, anything else would be un-American.

 

 

BTW this thread is everything I hoped it would be (and more) when I opened it.

[Computer Nerd]

 

People who are "defending the country" generally aren't doing it because of they want to "defend the country" per se. If anything, they do it because they cannot get into a college or get a good job. They aren't West Point grads....

 

Although I respect their decision, I don't see that decision as a sign of maturity.

 

Someone going to community college and flipping burgers is just as mature, or perhaps more mature than an Ivy League student, tuition courtesy of mommy & daddy.

 

right.....that's why i left college to join the air force......because i couldn't get into a college. :rolleyes:

 

unless you have served you haven't a single clue as to why those who do, did.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Computer Nerd

[Computer Nerd]

So than if US law applies wouldn't the ship have to keep charging you tax the whole trip and never open the casino? Or are you just cherry picking the laws you like?

 

outside of us waters it is not us law that dictates the drinking age but ncl's rules which as a privately owned business they can set to whatever age they like. if one doesn't like the rules one is free to sail with anyone else they choose. fyi though, on carnival, the age is 21 in the caribbean, mexico, and alaska no matter what the parents say so i think ncl is being rather lenient.

[Suze10860]

I know I need a drink right about now.....

 

Me too! And I give you permission to make one for my 17 year old kid. KIDDING. KIDDING. Both of my darlings are well over 21. Just couldn't resist.

[CasinoCruzGirl]

Wow

 

The OP didn't say they were gonna drink a quart of vodka. People on these forums just like to jump down people's throat without knowing any facts. Is it so awful for an 18 year old to have a glass of wine or beer with dinner. Really people who jumped all over the OP need to chill out. Know your facts before you accuse people of something. This is exactly why people are afraid to ask questions on this message board for fear of being attacked.

[Gershep]

wow

 

the op didn't say they were gonna drink a quart of vodka. People on these forums just like to jump down people's throat without knowing any facts. Is it so awful for an 18 year old to have a glass of wine or beer with dinner. Really people who jumped all over the op need to chill out. Know your facts before you accuse people of something. This is exactly why people are afraid to ask questions on this message board for fear of being attacked.

 

 

agree!

[CasinoCruzGirl]

agree!

 

Right? The judgment you see on these boards is incredible. I haven't been on here to much lately because of it. It got real old. This was a perfect example of someone asking a normal question and people attacking the OP for no reason at all. It's quite sickening.

[Gershep]

Right? The judgment you see on these boards is incredible. I haven't been on here to much lately because of it. It got real old. This was a perfect example of someone asking a normal question and people attacking the OP for no reason at all. It's quite sickening.

 

I shake my head most times at all the condescending comments. This forum is supposed to be where people come to ask questions, get helpful answers and share THEIR cruise experience. There are so many crazy things going on in this world there is no need for craziness on these boards.

[triptolemus]

I shake my head most times at all the condescending comments. This forum is supposed to be where people come to ask questions, get helpful answers and share THEIR cruise experience. There are so many crazy things going on in this world there is no need for craziness on these boards.

 

The problem seems to stem from the fact that there are many things about cruising which are based on opinion and personal experience rather than facts.

 

I'm guilty of the occasional good-spirited troll when it's appropriate (or not terribly inappropriate). But I find that staying away from "opinion" type threads seems to ease any frustration on my part.

 

That's why I like chengpk's posts so much. Very little of the information he presents is based on opinion.

 

The full on nut jobs are easy to spot. They post an emotional response where a fact is called for (see post #2).

[DMH15]

The problem seems to stem from the fact that there are many things about cruising which are based on opinion and personal experience rather than facts.

 

 

 

I'm guilty of the occasional good-spirited troll when it's appropriate (or not terribly inappropriate). But I find that staying away from "opinion" type threads seems to ease any frustration on my part.

 

 

 

That's why I like chengpk's posts so much. Very little of the information he presents is based on opinion.

 

 

 

The full on nut jobs are easy to spot. They post an emotional response where a fact is called for (see post #2).

 

 

OMG! You can't believe how fast I rushed back to post # 2 to make sure it wasn't me. [emoji57]

[ryanpatricksmom]

I was actually curious as to the answer because we could potentially be taking our almost 19 year old and a friend (either the same age or older) on a cruise next Spring. We would allow it, only if the other kid's parents allowed it of course, so I would like to know. It only took me the first page to realize that I wasn't going to get a definitive answer; I did continue to read in sheer amazement, however.

 

Before we sail I'm going to call NCL and ask if it's possible, and what the proper documentation would be. Somehow I don't think there will be a debate involved, LOL!

[DirtyDawg]

OMG! You can't believe how fast I rushed back to post # 2 to make sure it wasn't me. [emoji57]

 

LOL Good one!!:D

[pathubia]

I was actually curious as to the answer because we could potentially be taking our almost 19 year old and a friend (either the same age or older) on a cruise next Spring. We would allow it, only if the other kid's parents allowed it of course, so I would like to know. It only took me the first page to realize that I wasn't going to get a definitive answer; I did continue to read in sheer amazement, however.

 

Before we sail I'm going to call NCL and ask if it's possible, and what the proper documentation would be. Somehow I don't think there will be a debate involved, LOL!

 

If your child doesn't have the same last name as you, make sure you have the proper documentation, they initially said I couldn't sign the waiver for my daughter because she had a different last name, but I had her birth cert, my divorce document, my marriage cert. They allowed me to sign for her once I "proved" she was mine, LOL!! Then she decided she didn't like beer or wine. I traveled with a big folder...Thank God those days are over, everyone is over 21!! By the way, they wouldn't let me sign for her friend, or my stepson, my husband had to go and sign for him.

 

As with any other question, if you ask 5 people, you will probably get 5 different answers. It probably depends on the person that you get at guest services. I have also traveled with minors, sometimes the check in people at the port ask for the required paperwork, most of the time they don't.

[Sissaaaaaa]

I was actually curious as to the answer because we could potentially be taking our almost 19 year old and a friend (either the same age or older) on a cruise next Spring. We would allow it, only if the other kid's parents allowed it of course, so I would like to know. It only took me the first page to realize that I wasn't going to get a definitive answer; I did continue to read in sheer amazement, however.

 

Before we sail I'm going to call NCL and ask if it's possible, and what the proper documentation would be. Somehow I don't think there will be a debate involved, LOL!

 

You really won't know until you get there. I went fully expecting not to be able to sign for my daughter's friend, and was very surprised when they allowed it. I really think this was a fluke though.

[kerryincork]

I can understand NCL wanting a responsible adult to sign for the young adult on a cruise, but I don't understand on the insistence on a parent! To such an extent that a woman with a different last name has to go to extraordinary length to prove that her ADULT child is her's. It's already been established that once out in international waters the ship determines the rules on board. So why must a parent give permission to their adult children? Why can't a grandfather or aunt or older sibling sign? This is what really baffles me. I mean in my country once a person is 18 they are an adult and parents no longer have legal responsibility for them! My sister was 19 and still in school (as she started a year late) when she turned 18 my mother wrote the school telling them she was an adult now and all future correspondence should go through my sister and not her & that's what happened.

[Computer Nerd]

I was actually curious as to the answer because we could potentially be taking our almost 19 year old and a friend (either the same age or older) on a cruise next Spring. We would allow it, only if the other kid's parents allowed it of course, so I would like to know. It only took me the first page to realize that I wasn't going to get a definitive answer; I did continue to read in sheer amazement, however.

 

Before we sail I'm going to call NCL and ask if it's possible, and what the proper documentation would be. Somehow I don't think there will be a debate involved, LOL!

 

according to ncl's rules, you can only sign for your child to be able to drink on board. so if you go by the rules, the definitive answer is no, you cannot sign for someone else's child to drink. but according to other's, sometimes they will bend the rules and allow you to sign for someone else's kid to drink. so in essense, flip a coin and see what happens.

[Computer Nerd]

I can understand NCL wanting a responsible adult to sign for the young adult on a cruise, but I don't understand on the insistence on a parent! To such an extent that a woman with a different last name has to go to extraordinary length to prove that her ADULT child is her's. It's already been established that once out in international waters the ship determines the rules on board. So why must a parent give permission to their adult children? Why can't a grandfather or aunt or older sibling sign? This is what really baffles me. I mean in my country once a person is 18 they are an adult and parents no longer have legal responsibility for them! My sister was 19 and still in school (as she started a year late) when she turned 18 my mother wrote the school telling them she was an adult now and all future correspondence should go through my sister and not her & that's what happened.

 

because, as stated, it ncl's rules. i'm sure not everyone is happy with the rules but it's not baffling.....it's just what they are.

[DMH15]

I know about rules. But... At 18 I was in my own apartment, in college which I paid for, working and supporting myself 100%. I was driving a new car I bought in high school which I paid for myself. Had I gone on a cruise with my family, who I get along great with BTW, it would have irked me that my mom or dad would have had to sign for me. JMHO.

[ryanpatricksmom]

according to ncl's rules, you can only sign for your child to be able to drink on board. so if you go by the rules, the definitive answer is no, you cannot sign for someone else's child to drink. but according to other's, sometimes they will bend the rules and allow you to sign for someone else's kid to drink. so in essense, flip a coin and see what happens.

 

Yeah, since I posted I saw where it says "traveling parent", so I'm not going to create the expectation that it's possible. If we take a friend, I'll ask his parents without the kids knowing and take a letter fully expecting to be turned down.

[rusky123]

I live in the UK and as a restauranteur am allowed to give 16 years olds beer wine or cider (cider ***) am I allowed to say that ?, with their meals. I have also been on an unbeknown to me US spring break cruise. Oh gosh, so very awful. Puking teens everywhere. Wanted my money back. Those kids had never had a wine or beer and were let loose on the rest of the world. Bless them.

 

Drinking is fine as long as you do not abuse it.. As an Italian/ Latvian family we introduced our children to wine quite early. We appreciate the flavours and little kick back from a fine wine. Our children have never felt the need to go out and 'get plastered' and ashame themselves. They are now in their mid 40's and still enjoy a drink but not too excess.

 

I think that molly-coddling children ,when they should be adults by 18 , is a huge mistake.