Escape Deck Chair Policy Question

[luvtheships]

As per NCL's rules, the person has 60 minutes. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

If you remove items that have been unattended for 45 minutes, you are the one that is wrong. Actually, it's NCL's job to remove the items after 60 minutes, not your job so either way, removing someone else's items is wrong.

 

 

But the staff just does not do this part of their job on a regular basis

[luvtheships]

I agree that chair hogging is an issue, but I'm not really sure what the solution is. I would get up at 7 to go to the gym, and crossed the pool deck from aft to forward. Every morning I would see these neat rows of chairs, all reserved with towels and those matching sets of beach chair clips. Sometimes the clips were animal clips and you could tell that one person in a group of eight got up early and clipped towels on 8 chairs. Then disappeared.

 

 

 

Maybe NCL should do like parking meters and have a sensor/timer attached to each chair. If there is weight on the chair for five minutes, then it resets the time. If there is no weight, then the timer counts down, and after an hour, a little red light on the top of the chair flashes. Then the deck crew swoops in and removes items. The five minute weight sensor avoids the issue of one person in the party of eight pushing buttons on all eight chairs to reset the timers.

 

 

 

This is extreme, and it would never happen, but it would be nice if something could be done. Obviously NCL should do a better job of enforcing their policies, but unfortunately it seems chair hogs are just part of the cruising lifestyle.

 

 

Better yet....Ncl just shouldn't have the chairs out that early

 

If perhaps they kept them tied up longer OR had pool crew stationed on deck that had to place a chair for you that would be better

 

In the swanky hotels in Miami when I was a kid some guy had to walk you to your chair each day

 

On the ship if the pax and crew had to set up the chair together and then the crew member put a sticker on it with say time and cabin number it would work

 

If pax still decided to walk away the crew could just say the chair will be held until for 60 minutes.

 

Alternately a ressie system FOR the IMMEDIATe pool area chairs could be set up but this of course would probably turn into a fiasco. Lol

 

Of course seasoned cruisers know that a deck or 2 up there are plenty of chairs and loads of normal pax lol

[luvtheships]

I don't want to have to get up at the Crack of dawn to reserve my lounge chair. I plan on setting my towel, some flip flops, and a harlequin romance book on my lounge chair late in the evening before going to bed.:D

 

 

Nah. Just get a cabin on the lido deck and bring the lounger to your cabin

[luvtheships]

New to terminology. Are chairs hogs called chair hogs because they're over weight or because they're hogging the chair?

 

 

Both....well based on my last cruise anyway

[Two Wheels Only]

But the staff just does not do this part of their job on a regular basis

 

There is a HUGE difference between telling the staff to enforce the rules and enforcing the rules yourself.

 

Most of the people claiming that they would "remove items after ** minutes..." aren't even aware of what the rules are.

Should these same passengers enforce the rules?

[BirdTravels]

If perhaps they kept them tied up longer OR had pool crew stationed on deck that had to place a chair for you that would be better

 

Don't you remember the good 'ole days????

 

Back when we started cursing, it was just that way. You paid the pool attendant for a chair, they would set it up, and you enjoy the sun until your time ran out. If NCL started charging for chairs again, CC would be flooded with accusations of nickle and diming.

 

Unless you were in first class. The chairs would be set up for you free of charge,,,, with a cushion vs. wood. You had a dedicated table for you in the dining room that was available whenever you wanted to eat (true freestyle dining). For the week, no one except you, sat at that table. You had a waiter and assistant waiter assigned to you. If you wanted beluga caviar as one of your appetizers, the maitre d would go to the caviar locker and bring you a container. Or cook a meal or dessert for you tableside, when requested. Those were the good days (vs. the somewhat slow and inattentive service you get in the Havens restaurant).

[Rob0519]

One possible way to curb the chair hoggers would be to change the rules a bit. One person can put their items on one chair. Eight people want chairs together, all eight would have to show up at 7:00 in the morning to stake their claim. Now NCL would have to provide staff to enforce their own policies by removing those items at 8:01. However, we all know that is not likely to happen.

 

Customer Service does not want a group of angry (albeit in the wrong) customers getting into a heated discussion with other passengers or crew about a lounge chair, so the hogs will almost always win. It's just easier for the cruise lines to let it go.

 

Personally, I don't have any inclination to just lay in a chair and expose myself to harmful UV rays so I don't worry about chair hogs, but to each his own.

[NHL Philly Fan]

The majority of the time, its just towels, those you can move they aren't personal property.

 

They aren't YOUR property and someone else is responsible for them. No matter how you try to justify it, moving something that does not belong to you is VERY bad advice!

[NHL Philly Fan]

What's wrong with taking (thus touching) someone's discarded property to the Lost and Found department?

 

And honestly, I've cruised more than once, and have never seen the towel charge applied. They may, at times, take your room number down when you grab the towel, but at the end of the day, sometimes right on the docks before reboarding the ship, there's always a big can where everyone drops their towel chaotically, with no one checking off room numbers.

 

Even if they did, the towel is the responsibility of the person that signed for it, and leaving it unattended in a public space is a big breach to that contract, so they would deserve every bit of the charge.

 

So my version of the advice would be : Don't leave your property unattended. Ever.

 

 

LOL discarded... So by your rules, if you leave your ipad on a chair and I think it has been there too long I should be allowed to take it. Man I am glad you are not teaching my kids ethics.

[NHL Philly Fan]

It amuses me that people sleep in and think that anyone who gets up prior to them is somehow breaking the rules. I have never had an issue with finding a chair at the pool on any of my cruises. I have not always been able to be two steps away from the water but I have always been able to find enough chairs together for our group of four any time I have gone to the pool.

[IsanTom]

No activity on the chair in 30 minutes it's yours! Now sometimes it's fun to move their stuff to another chair 3 or 4 chairs away. When they finally show up, they look and see

their stuff, they look puzzled, scratch their heads, and finally pick up their stuff. You might as well have some fun with them.

[NHL Philly Fan]

No activity on the chair in 30 minutes it's yours! Now sometimes it's fun to move their stuff to another chair 3 or 4 chairs away. When they finally show up, they look and see

their stuff, they look puzzled, scratch their heads, and finally pick up their stuff. You might as well have some fun with them.

 

If there is an empty chair 3-4 chairs away then the problem is NOT the other person.

[Two Wheels Only]

No activity on the chair in 30 minutes it's yours!

So....you're not only ignoring NCL's policy, you're creating your own policy and enforcing it?:rolleyes:

 

Would you really spend that much time watching someone else's things and time them? Do you use a stop-watch to make sure that it has been 30 minutes (even though NCL allows 60 minutes) or do you just guess?

 

Now sometimes it's fun to move their stuff to another chair 3 or 4 chairs away. When they finally show up, they look and see

their stuff, they look puzzled, scratch their heads, and finally pick up their stuff. You might as well have some fun with them.

 

If there is a chair 3 or 4 chairs away, why don't you just......nevermind.

[beerman2]

It amuses me that people sleep in and think that anyone who gets up prior to them is somehow breaking the rules. I have never had an issue with finding a chair at the pool on any of my cruises. I have not always been able to be two steps away from the water but I have always been able to find enough chairs together for our group of four any time I have gone to the pool.

 

When 2 people come to the deck and start Unstacking 12 chairs themselves before the crew is done hosing the deck down at 6:30 in the morning. It shows how greedy/selfish people are . Happened last year on Epic, as I was walking to get coffee.

 

3 hours later someone finally showed up. people can twist it all they want, that is just plain wrong.

[Two Wheels Only]

When 2 people come to the deck and start Unstacking 12 chairs themselves before the crew is done hosing the deck down at 6:30 in the morning. It shows how greedy/selfish people are . Happened last year on Epic, as I was walking to get coffee.

 

3 hours later someone finally showed up. people can twist it all they want, that is just plain wrong.

 

The example that you just described is against NCL policy...

 

"The reserving of lounge/sun chairs is prohibited"

 

...what other posters are describing "...I see something on a chair and after 30 minutes, I move it..." is NOT the same thing.

 

Guests ARE allowed to leave items on a chair (that they are using) for 60 minutes.

 

Guests ARE NOT allowed to reserve chairs for people who will eventually show up.

[NLH Arizona]

The example that you just described is against NCL policy...

 

"The reserving of lounge/sun chairs is prohibited"

 

...what other posters are describing "...I see something on a chair and after 30 minutes, I move it..." is NOT the same thing.

 

Guests ARE allowed to leave items on a chair (that they are using) for 60 minutes.

 

Guests ARE NOT allowed to reserve chairs for people who will eventually show up.

But, unless NCL enforces the rules, the rules are really meaningless. Edited June 4, 2016 by NLH Arizona

[Two Wheels Only]

But, unless NCL enforces the rules, the rules are really meaningless.

 

That doesn't give guests the right to create and enforce their own rules. If guests want NCL to enforce a rule/policy, the guest can request that NCL staff enforce the policy.

 

This thread has made the policy clear. People are STILL complaining about things that are NOT against the rules. People are still claiming that they will create their own rule and enforce it. That is wrong.

 

Only NCL staff has the authorization to remove items that are unattended for more than 60 minutes and take those items to guest services. Other guests DO NOT have the right to move/remove anyone else's items.

[beerman2]

The example that you just described is against NCL policy...

 

"The reserving of lounge/sun chairs is prohibited"

 

...what other posters are describing "...I see something on a chair and after 30 minutes, I move it..." is NOT the same thing.

 

Guests ARE allowed to leave items on a chair (that they are using) for 60 minutes.

 

Guests ARE NOT allowed to reserve chairs for people who will eventually show up.

And NCL did nothing about it, so if NCL won't /can't enforce their own policy, people should just sit back and ignore it?

 

Then doesn't that mean those people are making THEIR own rules. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[luvtheships]

But, unless NCL enforces the rules, the rules are really meaningless.

 

 

Really when was the last time Ncl actually enforced their rules?

 

I know I'm going to now get several examples of Ncl enforcing the rules....

 

But really....

 

They hardly ever enforce the smoking while playing in the casino rule

 

Or

 

The deck chair rule

 

 

But go to town posters....let's hear about where and when Ncl enforces their rules

 

Seriously I'd love to hear it because I know they do enforce rules but ive just never witnessed it. Lol

[Two Wheels Only]

And NCL did nothing about it, so if NCL won't /can't enforce their own policy, people should just sit back and ignore it?

Did you report it?

If you did, you did what you were supposed to do.

If you didn't and took it upon yourself to remove items, you did what you weren't supposed to do.

 

Then doesn't that mean those people are making THEIR own rules. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Yes, the people who are breaking the rules are WRONG.

The people who are making their own rules by reserving chairs are wrong.

The people who are making their own rules by removing items (no matter how long the items have been unattended) are also wrong.

[Heather1972]

Ahh the constant chair hog drama! Do people set their alarms for the butt crack of dawn to go put a towel on a chair or what? The worst chair hogging I've seen was around 7 am on the Epic when EVERY chair near the pool had something on it. No one was out there except me! I wish ships had a few lockers to just to put your stuff in while you're in the pool. Not everyone wants a seat.

[NLH Arizona]

That doesn't give guests the right to create and enforce their own rules. If guests want NCL to enforce a rule/policy, the guest can request that NCL staff enforce the policy.

 

This thread has made the policy clear. People are STILL complaining about things that are NOT against the rules. People are still claiming that they will create their own rule and enforce it. That is wrong.

 

Only NCL staff has the authorization to remove items that are unattended for more than 60 minutes and take those items to guest services. Other guests DO NOT have the right to move/remove anyone else's items.

I've never condoned or advocate anyone touching or moving anyone's belongings, just pointing out that the rules are meaningless unless NCL enforces them. When a company fails to enforce rules, unfortunately customers take it upon their selves to enforce them....not saying this is right or wrong, just saying this is what happens.

[jlat]

Haven't been on CC in over a year...good to know nothing much changes around here.........:rolleyes:

[NLH Arizona]

Really when was the last time Ncl actually enforced their rules?

 

I know I'm going to now get several examples of Ncl enforcing the rules....

 

But really....

 

They hardly ever enforce the smoking while playing in the casino rule

 

Or

 

The deck chair rule

 

 

But go to town posters....let's hear about where and when Ncl enforces their rules

 

Seriously I'd love to hear it because I know they do enforce rules but ive just never witnessed it. Lol

I think if you read my post, I said that if they don't enforce the rules, those rules are meaningless. Please point out where I said NCL enforced any rules.

[beerman2]

Did you report it?

If you did, you did what you were supposed to do.

If you didn't and took it upon yourself to remove items, you did what you weren't supposed to do.

 

 

 

Yes, the people who are breaking the rules are WRONG.

The people who are making their own rules by reserving chairs are wrong.

The people who are making their own rules by removing items (no matter how long the items have been unattended) are also wrong.

 

There were crew members on deck watching/letting the people take the lounge chairs off the stacks and putting towels, books, flip flops etc. on them.Why report what NCL people have witnessed?

 

No I didn't remove anything , so I wasn't wrong!

 

All cruiselines should come up with a better plan as Chair hogging takes place RCI , NCL, and Carnival.