time4u2go Posted October 12, 2017 #201 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Yes. Look it up. Federal law. Nope, no such law. If you feel otherwise, can you provide a link to it? Also, see this: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fo-tipping-faq-20160123-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted October 12, 2017 #202 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Nope, no such law. If you feel otherwise, can you provide a link to it? Also, see this: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fo-tipping-faq-20160123-story.html https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicia68 Posted October 12, 2017 #203 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I find it interesting that so many of us are concerned about the living wage of cruise line employees. Apparently many of us feel the cruise lines themselves are not too concerned about them. Perhaps before the Automatic Prepaid System was enacted, many cruisers either did not leave enough or any at all. Due to this failure of some cruisers to tip, the cruise lines are trying to ensure that they receive a gratuity. They have set what they feel is a fair amount. I also wonder what percentage of hotel guests truly leave a tip for the room attendant? As a previous hotel room attendant, tips were few and far between especially one one night stay guests. People forget that even after a one night stay, linens need to be changed, bathrooms cleaned, garbage dumped etc etc. Its just as much work for a 1 night stay as for 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealstuber Posted October 13, 2017 #204 Share Posted October 13, 2017 As a previous hotel room attendant, tips were few and far between especially one one night stay guests. People forget that even after a one night stay, linens need to be changed, bathrooms cleaned, garbage dumped etc etc. Its just as much work for a 1 night stay as for 7 I do wish hotels would allow you to add tips for your room attendant to your bill. I always want to leave something, but if the ATM only spits out 20s and I haven’t had the opportunity to break it, I’m not leaving $20 for a one night stay. I travel for business almost 250 days a year. Tips for room attendants and shuttle drivers is about the only thing I need cash for. The front desk can’t always make change, and I don’t have much reason to make a small cash purchase that would put smaller denominations in my pocket. So to leave a tip for a one day stay, I have to remember to go to the ATM at the airport and make a small purchase at the newsstand. Doesn’t always happen. So I tend to over-tip on 3 night stays or more and stiff on shorter stays. I’m hoping that there are enough people like me that it comes out in the wash. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 13, 2017 #205 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I do wish hotels would allow you to add tips for your room attendant to your bill. I always want to leave something, but if the ATM only spits out 20s and I haven’t had the opportunity to break it, I’m not leaving $20 for a one night stay. I travel for business almost 250 days a year. Tips for room attendants and shuttle drivers is about the only thing I need cash for. The front desk can’t always make change, and I don’t have much reason to make a small cash purchase that would put smaller denominations in my pocket. So to leave a tip for a one day stay, I have to remember to go to the ATM at the airport and make a small purchase at the newsstand. Doesn’t always happen. So I tend to over-tip on 3 night stays or more and stiff on shorter stays. I’m hoping that there are enough people like me that it comes out in the wash. Sent from my iPhone using Forums When we stay in Orlando i usually leave a thank you/gracias note with a couple of dollars for the room maid and we always get a full compliment of towels, toiletries,coffee etc and no early knocking on our door on the last morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 13, 2017 #206 Share Posted October 13, 2017 When we stay in Orlando i usually leave a thank you/gracias note with a couple of dollars for the room maid and we always get a full compliment of towels, toiletries,coffee etc and no early knocking on our door on the last morning. I leave the note and cash every morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ukigirl Posted October 14, 2017 #207 Share Posted October 14, 2017 So make this clear to me, always done prepaid gratuities with extra cash for cabin attendants and waiters. Each day when I check my account it shows the amount taken out per person. You telling me if we aren't satisfied , we can go to customer service desk towards end of cruise and get gratuities removed and just pay in cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealstuber Posted October 14, 2017 #208 Share Posted October 14, 2017 So make this clear to me, always done prepaid gratuities with extra cash for cabin attendants and waiters. Each day when I check my account it shows the amount taken out per person. You telling me if we aren't satisfied , we can go to customer service desk towards end of cruise and get gratuities removed and just pay in cash? You can, but there are three big reasons not to: 1)As specified on RCCL’s website, about a 3rd of the tips are supposed to go to people you don’t see, “other hotel services” we way not know exactly who these people are or how this tip is allocated, but it’s fairly clear to me that they make their living off tips. 2) if the tips are removed and the employee has been given cash directly, they are supposed to return it to the pool. If you give something less than the recommended amounts, he/she may pull money from his own pocket for the pool so it does not reflect badly. If you give more, he may have to fork over the whole thing instead of the recommended amount. 3) It’s just a great big pain in the ass for everybody. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wales4ever Posted October 14, 2017 #209 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Whatever the "official" tips breakdown is, its only Royal C's ideas. I will continue to stop my auto gratuities and pay who I want when I want. On the Navigator a couple of weeks ago our cabin guy did a poor job, this was reflected in his tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare L454S Posted October 14, 2017 #210 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Seems to me that if there are that many "unseen" people paid by these "GRATUITIES", then it is not a gratuity, it is a service fee and should be included in the price. It's all marketing to reel you in and then hit you with more later. Sorry to say, most all do it. By the time you add taxes, fees and gratuities......sometimes the looks of a cruise change a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 14, 2017 #211 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Whatever the "official" tips breakdown is, its only Royal C's ideas. I will continue to stop my auto gratuities and pay who I want when I want.On the Navigator a couple of weeks ago our cabin guy did a poor job, this was reflected in his tips. I wonder if he did a poor job because he knew you had stopped the autogratuities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 14, 2017 #212 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Seems to me that if there are that many "unseen" people paid by these "GRATUITIES", then it is not a gratuity, it is a service fee and should be included in the price. It's all marketing to reel you in and then hit you with more later. Sorry to say, most all do it. By the time you add taxes, fees and gratuities......sometimes the looks of a cruise change a bit. It happens with all cruise lines,its best to just enjoy yourself and leave your autotips on because thats what the crew want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted October 14, 2017 #213 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Whatever the "official" tips breakdown is, its only Royal C's ideas. I will continue to stop my auto gratuities and pay who I want when I want.On the Navigator a couple of weeks ago our cabin guy did a poor job, this was reflected in his tips. Everyone knows when you remove the auto gratuities. Besides the poor service from your cabin guy, your waiter probably spit in your food. :eek: I just leave on the auto grats and let the cruise line sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intent2smile Posted October 14, 2017 #214 Share Posted October 14, 2017 If you do not eat in the MDR and eat in the specialty dining areas does the gratuities for dining services go to that waiter? We had excellent servers in Chops and Sabor on our cruise last week. We tipped extra because the service was exceptional but I was hoping our auto gratuity was given to them as well since we ate at the specialty restaurants for dinner every night and for lunch every day that we could including our extra sea day when Nate made us skip Cozumel Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted October 14, 2017 #215 Share Posted October 14, 2017 If you do not eat in the MDR and eat in the specialty dining areas does the gratuities for dining services go to that waiter? We had excellent servers in Chops and Sabor on our cruise last week. We tipped extra because the service was exceptional but I was hoping our auto gratuity was given to them as well since we ate at the specialty restaurants for dinner every night and for lunch every day that we could including our extra sea day when Nate made us skip Cozumel Sent from my iPad using Forums A portion of the cover charge for specialty covers gratuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinglebert Posted October 14, 2017 #216 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Whatever the "official" tips breakdown is, its only Royal C's ideas. I will continue to stop my auto gratuities and pay who I want when I want.On the Navigator a couple of weeks ago our cabin guy did a poor job, this was reflected in his tips. As has been pointed out frequently on this thread that may be your intention however thats not what will happen in practice. Because you have stopped the auto gratuities any cash you pay will be put where the auto was going anyway and not where you wanted it to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted October 14, 2017 #217 Share Posted October 14, 2017 As has been pointed out frequently on this thread that may be your intention however thats not what will happen in practice. Because you have stopped the auto gratuities any cash you pay will be put where the auto was going anyway and not where you wanted it to go. I think it goes into the pocket of the person who receives it. There is what is "supposed" to happen with that cash, and the likely reality of what happens with it, and that's very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinglebert Posted October 14, 2017 #218 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I think it goes into the pocket of the person who receives it. There is what is "supposed" to happen with that cash, and the likely reality of what happens with it, and that's very different. I wouldn't want to be the member of staff who is found to have kept tips from his/her fellow workers. They have to share close living arrangements for 9 months a year. Those who are seen to be stealing from others won't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted October 14, 2017 #219 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I wouldn't want to be the member of staff who is found to have kept tips from his/her fellow workers. They have to share close living arrangements for 9 months a year. Those who are seen to be stealing from others won't last long. Probably not good situation, but probably pretty infrequent also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 14, 2017 #220 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I wouldn't want to be the member of staff who is found to have kept tips from his/her fellow workers. They have to share close living arrangements for 9 months a year. Those who are seen to be stealing from others won't last long. We heard lots of stories about crew especially Philipinos fighting after drinking alcohol. They are some of the nicest crew so the alcohol and possibly the keeping of tips might be behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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