Chewbecca Posted September 2, 2018 #1 Share Posted September 2, 2018 hi all, we're close to booking a cruise to Japan next summer on the Maasdam, mainly for the itinerary but we do like the smaller ships too so that's a bonus. However, I've read online that the ship has been sold and is being leased back to HAL. Does anyone know if this is a fact and do you anticipate any impact on the maintenance of the ship and/or the staffing? Or in fact if the possibility of cancellation is high? Wouldn't want to book flights (will be using airmiles so non refundable or changeable) and have no cruise to go to! Any thoughts welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 2, 2018 #2 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Where did you read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFBayAreaShipLover Posted September 2, 2018 #3 Share Posted September 2, 2018 HAL will have to keep the ship in compliance with all safety rules and required inspection during the time there leasing the vessel. Maintenance and up keep of the vessel will be part of the sale contract. Didn’t expect any major upgrades. Indeed it is very sad we’re losing the smaller ships to larger ones. Seems like most folks still prefer medium to smaller ships. 1200 to 2000 passengers. They tend to make better ships for world cruising. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted September 2, 2018 #4 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Can’t find anything about the Maasdam. Are you sure you’re not thinking Prinsendam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 2, 2018 #5 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Can’t find anything about the Maasdam. Are you sure you’re not thinking Prinsendam? That’s what I’m hoping, too, but with NS being released HAL has a lot more cabins to fill if they don’t part with another ship or 2.☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 2, 2018 #6 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I haven't heard anything about the Maasdam being sold. I do believe that you mean the Prinsendam. She has been sold and is being leased back to HAL until the end of June 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynanken Posted September 2, 2018 #7 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Maasdam is in drydock right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #8 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Maasdam is in drydock right now. Oh dear, you know what they say about first cruises after drydock. Hoping for fair seas and following winds in just a few more days. BTW, what exactly is a following wind - front, side or back? Or one the ship creates herself. Looks like she is heading to Freeport for the drydock - underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV8rix Posted September 2, 2018 #9 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Huh? I thought that Maasdam was slated for the VERY special mission of the new EXC In Depth Voyages. Would make no sense to sell her now. You've likely misread something about the sale of P'dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 2, 2018 #10 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Oh dear, you know what they say about first cruises after drydock. Hoping for fair seas and following winds in just a few more days. BTW, what exactly is a following wind - front, side or back? Or one the ship creates herself. Looks like she is heading to Freeport for the drydock - underway. In sailing, a run, or could be a broad reach. The wind is going with you. (You don’t have to beat into it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 2, 2018 #11 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The Sailing Circle https://goo.gl/images/t37Ddk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #12 Share Posted September 2, 2018 In sailing, a run, or could be a reach. The wind is going with you. (You don’t have to beat into it). Thanks - so then the wind is coming over the ship from behind about the same speed as the ship like the Maasdam's current 17 knots? What does a much stronger wind from behind do to a ship or a sail boat - does it give it an extra boost or make it make manageing it squirrely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 2, 2018 #13 Share Posted September 2, 2018 From another website: Maasdam The Holland America ship will undergo a refurbishment for over a week. General updates and maintenance will take place along with enhance spaces for EXC excursions. Upgrade Details Cruise Line: Holland America Line Refurbishment: Aug 31 – Sep 9, 2018 Location: Freeport, Bahamas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 2, 2018 #14 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Thanks - so then the wind is coming over the ship from behind about the same speed as the ship like the Maasdam's current 17 knots? What does a much stronger wind from behind do to a ship or a sail boat - does it give it an extra boost or make it make manageing it squirrely? In a sailboat, a strong following wind on a run can cause a broach. Not good. A squirrelly wind from behind can cause a gybe (boom crosses over the boat quickly- it can be dangerous) and hard on equipment. And crew if anyone gets hit.:eek: I’ll leave it for Cheng and others to respond about big ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 3, 2018 #15 Share Posted September 3, 2018 HAL will have to keep the ship in compliance with all safety rules and required inspection during the time there leasing the vessel. Maintenance and up keep of the vessel will be part of the sale contract. Didn’t expect any major upgrades. Indeed it is very sad we’re losing the smaller ships to larger ones. Seems like most folks still prefer medium to smaller ships. 1200 to 2000 passengers. They tend to make better ships for world cruising. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Me thinks you are speaking of the good ol' Prinsendam. Maasdam aka "Maasie", as now the oldest (1993) of the remaining two "S" class ships, does not have a lengthy future left with HAL but she hasn't been sold/internally transferred yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 3, 2018 #16 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Huh? I thought that Maasdam was slated for the VERY special mission of the new EXC In Depth Voyages. Would make no sense to sell her now. You've likely misread something about the sale of P'dam. Yep; she's getting Zodiacs on her bow for "expedition-type" excursions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 3, 2018 #17 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Oh dear, you know what they say about first cruises after drydock. Hoping for fair seas and following winds in just a few more days. BTW, what exactly is a following wind - front, side or back? Or one the ship creates herself. Looks like she is heading to Freeport for the drydock - underway. FAIR WINDS a nd a following sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 3, 2018 #18 Share Posted September 3, 2018 FAIR WINDS a nd a following sea. (Snicker) Got that one totally goofed up :o - so what are "following seas" - though I guess they probably are like the good descrption of following winds - seas moving along at the same speed at the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted September 3, 2018 #19 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Yep; she's getting Zodiacs on her bow for "expedition-type" excursions Do you know what else is being done during dry dock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted September 3, 2018 #20 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Do you know what else is being done during dry dock? Primarily standard maintenance/upkeep, some EXC stuff which includes the logistics for the Zodiac operation. She's scheduled to leave Freeport one week from today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted September 3, 2018 #21 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Primarily standard maintenance/upkeep, some EXC stuff which includes the logistics for the Zodiac operation. She's scheduled to leave Freeport one week from today Thank you for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 3, 2018 #22 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Yep; she's getting Zodiacs on her bow for "expedition-type" excursions So does that mean her bow will be off limits to pax?😧 Gosh I love Veendam’s now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV8rix Posted September 3, 2018 #23 Share Posted September 3, 2018 In a sailboat, a strong following wind on a run can cause a broach. Not good. A squirrelly wind from behind can cause a gybe (boom crosses over the boat quickly- it can be dangerous) and hard on equipment. And crew if anyone gets hit.:eek:. Hey, you sound like a fellow sailor! I crewed on racing boats when I was younger. Wish I could still do it. Was almost as much fun as flying airplanes. OK, I'm outta here. I've caused enough thread drift for one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted September 3, 2018 #24 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Primarily standard maintenance/upkeep, some EXC stuff which includes the logistics for the Zodiac operation. She's scheduled to leave Freeport one week from today On another site - the one with a face and a book - a poster said they were removing the casino during dry dock to make room for the EXC enhancements. Do you know anything about this? Smooth Sailing! :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted September 3, 2018 #25 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Hey, you sound like a fellow sailor! I crewed on racing boats when I was younger. Wish I could still do it. Was almost as much fun as flying airplanes. OK, I'm outta here. I've caused enough thread drift for one day. I used to crew on Lido-14’s. (They are local dinghys, a bit less than 15’ with a main and jib.) Truly I only got asked to crew because my weight matched most of the guys in a way we met required weight without having to carry non-movable ballast.;) So it would be accurate to say I was movable ballast that usually could set a decent jib, was willing to hike out, and didn’t usually drop the whisker pole overboard.;p Our fleet was full of pilots and engineers. Guess physics unites those hobbies and professions. Now back to the main event: Maasdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now