Cannabis/Marijuana/Pot policy on Holland America!?

[Slarty]

Is it accepted on-board in a country's territorial waters/ports?  I suppose that in Canadian waters, it will/should be totally legal. 

 

 Slarty

[OVgirl]

No, I don't think so. In a Canadian port it will be legal, but onboard the ship the cruiseline will determine the rules. 

[RMLincoln]

The answer is no.  Just don't bring it.  Not with a prescription, not without a prescription.  You are not in the US when you are on the ship.  

[OlsSalt]

No smoking anything in your cabins or balconies either. If you smoke in your cabin, your cabin steward will report this to the supervisor.

[Slarty]

But, if it is in their territorial waters (like 200 miles off shore), doesn't the rules of international law supersede any of our silly US laws?  What about Vancouver - Seatlle (which BTW, both in British Columbia and Washington State is legal, but our feds declare it illegal?).  

[Slarty]

1 minute ago, OlsSalt said:

No smoking anything in your cabins or balconies either. If you smoke in your cabin, your cabin steward will report this to the supervisor.

 

 

You must be an old fart like me ... LOL.

 

So few smoke now ... it's shifting to edibles, rubs, and vapes.

[Sea girl 23]

🍿  That is all. Lol.

[Slarty]

6 minutes ago, OlsSalt said:

No smoking anything in your cabins or balconies either. If you smoke in your cabin, your cabin steward will report this to the supervisor.

 

Excellent point!  I suppose that at the very least, those old remaining tokers will be required to smoke it on board like they have to do now with cigarettes.

[OlsSalt]

5 minutes ago, Slarty said:

 

 

You must be an old fart like me ... LOL.

 

So few smoke now ... it's shifting to edibles, rubs, and vapes.

 

Intoxicated and impaired public conduct remains problematic on board, no matter what the source or substance.

 

Get the stuff on prescription that does not make you high and then go ahead and be a test case. Pay attention to where you are sailing however - good time to review what recently happened to the woman in Dubai who had a glass of wine  served on Emirates Airlines before she landed, which is Dubai's  national carrier. 

Edited October 29, 2018 by OlsSalt

[Slarty]

20 minutes ago, RMLincoln said:

The answer is no.  Just don't bring it.  Not with a prescription, not without a prescription.  You are not in the US when you are on the ship.  

 

Umm???  The USA does not rule the world (yet).  Within a country's territorial waters, you are subject to their rules, not ours.

 

Or am I wrong?

[Aquahound]

14 minutes ago, Slarty said:

But, if it is in their territorial waters (like 200 miles off shore), doesn't the rules of international law supersede any of our silly US laws?  What about Vancouver - Seatlle (which BTW, both in British Columbia and Washington State is legal, but our feds declare it illegal?).  

 

Does not matter.  The answer is still no.  

  

[OlsSalt]

1 minute ago, Slarty said:

 

Umm???  The USA does not rule the world (yet).  Within a country's territorial waters, you are subject to their rules, not ours.

 

Or am I wrong?

 

Holland America sets onboard policies - you can't bring an iron on board either which are legal in most other international jurisdictions. Try another cruise line - maybe other nationalities have more pot tolerant onboard policies. This will be a growing issue so you might as well learn as much as you can within the cruise industry world wide. While "Holland" plays a role in the Holland America history, these are is not at "tolerant" Dutch brown cafe ships.

[ithaca gal]

Why is it so important?

[Aquahound]

3 minutes ago, Slarty said:

 

Umm???  The USA does not rule the world (yet).  Within a country's territorial waters, you are subject to their rules, not ours.

 

Or am I wrong?

 

You are subject to many rules when in another country's territorial waters.  You're subject to their rules, the flag state's rules and the rules of the company.  The company has a zero tolerance policy that includes marijuana because the company does not operate exclusively in a country where it is legal.  

[Copper10-8]

19 minutes ago, Slarty said:

Is it accepted on-board in a country's territorial waters/ports?  I suppose that in Canadian waters, it will/should be totally legal. 

 

 Slarty

 

Marijuana/Cannabis/Pot/Weed/Grass/Hashish/Ganga/Joints/Reefers/Mary Jane/Skunk/Boom/Maui Wowie/Boo/Texas Tea/Blaze/Burnie, Panama Gold, etc.  incl. "medical marijuana" is not permitted on HAL ships. CBP has used dope dogs at screening inside the terminal as well as "downstairs" where all luggage goes through its own screening. It is important to remember that HAL, and other, cruise lines operate under, and adhere to, federal, and not state or local, laws when it comes to Marijuana possession! I have been on several voyages where U.S. Customs & Border Patrol agents were waiting to board the vessel upon arrival back in the States to contact and have a serious chat with the "possessor(s)".

[OlsSalt]

No surprise to learn but pot users always share the best ways to beat the system, part of the pot use syndrome often included making bad judgement calls: https://www.marijuana.com/community/threads/how-to-bring-weed-on-a-cruise.277156/

 

Copper will be interested in this link; but most likely he already knows it and has seen it.

 

Just the 'tude we don't want sailing on any cruise - how to circumvent the system for one's own selfish reasons. Pretty much like flushing what does not belong down the commode and them complaining the toilets don't work on that ship.

 

Keep in mind maritime law is federal law.

Edited October 29, 2018 by OlsSalt

[Slarty]

6 minutes ago, OlsSalt said:

 

Holland America sets onboard policies - you can't bring an iron on board either which are legal in most other international jurisdictions. Try another cruise line - maybe other nationalities have more pot tolerant onboard policies. This will be a growing issue so you might as well learn as much as you can within the cruise industry world wide. While "Holland" plays a role in the Holland America history, these are is not at "tolerant" Dutch brown cafe ships.

 

Thanks ... yet another good perspective.  It's not a simple answer.  

[Slarty]

12 minutes ago, Aquahound said:

 

Does not matter.  The answer is still no.  

  

 

Why?  Please expand your argument to share with us.

[Slarty]

9 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

Marijuana/Cannabis/Pot/Weed/Grass/Hashish/Ganga/Joints/Reefers/Mary Jane/Skunk/Boom/Maui Wowie/Boo/Texas Tea/Blaze/Burnie, Panama Gold, etc.  incl. "medical marijuana" is not permitted on HAL ships. CBP has used dope dogs at screening inside the terminal as well as "downstairs" where all luggage goes through its own screening. It is important to remember that HAL, and other, cruise lines operate under, and adhere to, federal, and not state or local, laws when it comes to Marijuana possession! I have been on several voyages where U.S. Customs & Border Patrol agents were waiting to board the vessel upon arrival back in the States to contact and have a serious chat with the "possessor(s)".

 

Thankyou ... you have a link???

[Aquahound]

1 minute ago, Slarty said:

 

Why?  Please expand your argument to share with us.

 

Already did.  See post #14.

[frankc98376]

23 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

Marijuana/Cannabis/Pot/Weed/Grass/Hashish/Ganga/Joints/Reefers/Mary Jane/Skunk/Boom/Maui Wowie/Boo/Texas Tea/Blaze/Burnie, Panama Gold, etc.  incl. "medical marijuana" is not permitted on HAL ships. CBP has used dope dogs at screening inside the terminal as well as "downstairs" where all luggage goes through its own screening. It is important to remember that HAL, and other, cruise lines operate under, and adhere to, federal, and not state or local, laws when it comes to Marijuana possession! I have been on several voyages where U.S. Customs & Border Patrol agents were waiting to board the vessel upon arrival back in the States to contact and have a serious chat with the "possessor(s)".

 

Memories of our OSDM cruise last year and a distinct "aroma" on our deck. 

[OlsSalt]

Watch out for local sting operations in some ports too:

 

The Bahamas supplements its income by arresting cruise passengers with small amounts of pots. The police board cruise ships without either probable cause or search warrants and then fine them $500 to $2000 under threats of jail sentences of 30 – 60 days terms at Her Majesty’s Prison

.........

The tourism police unit was formed to create the impression that it’s safe for tourists to come ashore in Nassau.  The truth is that these local tourism police officers spend more time busting tourists than arresting armed criminals or Bahamians selling the tourists pot at the straw market or up and down Bay Street.

[Copper10-8]

4 minutes ago, frankc98376 said:

 

Memories of our OSDM cruise last year and a distinct "aroma" on our deck. 

 

Oh yeah, and MJ wasn't the only "dope" discovered during that memorable voyage

[Slarty]

15 minutes ago, OlsSalt said:

Watch out for local sting operations in some ports too:

 

The Bahamas supplements its income by arresting cruise passengers with small amounts of pots. The police board cruise ships without either probable cause or search warrants and then fine them $500 to $2000 under threats of jail sentences of 30 – 60 days terms at Her Majesty’s Prison

.........

The tourism police unit was formed to create the impression that it’s safe for tourists to come ashore in Nassau.  The truth is that these local tourism police officers spend more time busting tourists than arresting armed criminals or Bahamians selling the tourists pot at the straw market or up and down Bay Street.

 

I was talking about cannabis in another sovereign country and its territorial waters.  I never said anything about the Bahamas.  Please try to focus.

[Copper10-8]

Please take a minute and read page 7 under Medication/Please Note 

 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/content/dam/hal/marketing-assets/manage-my-cruise-already-booked/faqs/KBYG.pdf