Ocean Phobic Passenger

[cruisemom42]

Many people use the term "phobia" loosely, as in not referring to a diagnosed condition. I think that's what the OP has done.

 

At any rate, it seems like they have a plan.... 

[jagsfan]

To OP:

was your “booze cruise” in the Gulf of Mexico?

if he was ok there, and it’s pretty deep, I’d do as he suggests, and try a 5 day. Since it’s his suggestion to try a short cruise to see how it goes, I’d sure encourage and support him and book one. 

My DH didn’t want longer than 5 day cruises in the beginning because he thought he’d feel trapped. 

We gradually booked  longer and longer cruises till we’re doing a 27 day this year. 

Your husband may not have so much a fear of the ocean as he does the idea of being stuck on a ship. A port intensive cruise is the answer to that. 

[MicCanberra]

Phobia's are defined as being irrational fears, so the fact he is talking about it proves it isn't a phobia.

[SRF]

On 2/22/2019 at 10:12 PM, AmazedByCruising said:

That's the difference between a plane and a ship. A plane crashes in minutes and everyone is dead.

 

Except that in most airplane crashes, not everyone dies.

 

I know this is YOUR phobia talking, but at least be accurate. 😄

 

 

[SRF]

On 2/22/2019 at 10:52 PM, cb at sea said:

Unless you are standing BY the railing, there is really little feeling of "being at sea"....or at least, I find that to be so!  99% of the ship feels like being in a hotel!

 

If he's truly afraid, perhaps therapy to get over it is in order.

 

Even standing by the railing, the feeling is of a hotel that is very close to the water. 😄

 

[AmazedByCruising]

3 hours ago, SRF said:

Except that in most airplane crashes, not everyone dies.

 

I didn't know that. Thanks

[navybankerteacher]

5 hours ago, SRF said:

 

Except that in most airplane crashes, not everyone dies.

 

I know this is YOUR phobia talking, but at least be accurate. 😄

 

 

Are you talking about private planes, which might ground loop  (in which case you MIGHT be correct), or just commercial airliners (in which case I believe you are wrong - there are very few, not MOST, cases where there are survivors).

[kerryincork]

14 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

Are you talking about private planes, which might ground loop  (in which case you MIGHT be correct), or just commercial airliners (in which case I believe you are wrong - there are very few, not MOST, cases where there are survivors).

I am afraid you are wrong an airplane crash is counted as any emergency landing where there has been a mechanical failure not just a fire ball which you seem to think happens on all occasions. For example my family was on a plane where the landing gear failed on take off so we had to do an emergency landing at the other end. The plane basically did a belly flop on the run way. We left from the emergency slides, no one was seriously injured. Fire engines, ambulances, the whole nine yards. These aren't particularly exciting crashes so they don't get much press coverage. So everyone assumes everyone dies in all plane crashes.

 

You can look up the statistics on official aviation sites.

[Yukonjake]

On 2/22/2019 at 5:57 PM, sailrprincess said:

I planned a family cruise as a surprise for my family but realized recently that my husbands phobia of being in the middle of the ocean is strong than i thought it was.  ...  I am not going to stop cruising because he is afraid to but I love traveling with him and I know if he could get over the fear of the ship sinking and him drowning, that he will love it.

No offense, but this seems pretty insensitive of you. If he doesn't want to go, he shouldn't be forced ore even encouraged to go. What you like isn't necessarily the same as what he likes. If he wanted to backpack through the Sierras and insisted that you come with, but you were agoraphobic (some of those trails are pretty steep and run along mountain ridges), wouldn't you be a bit peeved that he had made these plans without you and, moreover, would not be understanding if you didn't want to go.

 

If he is ok with you going with a friend or relative, just go without him and have a blast. Vacations can be separate sometimes. Going back to backpacking, my wife would never want to be that far from a good restaurant and couldn't carry a pack more than from the house to the car, but she always enjoys looking at my backpacking photos.

[SRF]

20 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

Are you talking about private planes, which might ground loop  (in which case you MIGHT be correct), or just commercial airliners (in which case I believe you are wrong - there are very few, not MOST, cases where there are survivors).

 

Here are a few with survivors.

 

What more?

 

Maybe not most, but a good proportion.  And I did not include running off the runway or terror/hijacking based ones.

 

And BTW, I am 1 for 1. 😄

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_965

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_173

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1420

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_383_(1965)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Colorado_Airlines_Flight_2286

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_553

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_006

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Flight_1713

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_1951

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Airlines_Flight_2605

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Airlines_Flight_349

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Flight_1404

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_801

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_350

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by SRF

[Yukonjake]

On 2/23/2019 at 3:58 PM, sailrprincess said:

he said he would like to try out a 4 day cruise before an 8 day one so we may do that 1st.

 

I know I just slammed you pretty hard for your first post. I do stand by that first response, based on your original post, but I like that he is willing to try a short one. There are even better options for the hesitant sailor; Princess has over-nighters between Seattle and Vancouver. You could even try their shipboard experience, where you get a tour of the ship tied up to the pier and lunch.

 

Good luck.

[navybankerteacher]

1 hour ago, SRF said:

 

Here are a few with survivors.

 

What more?

 

Maybe not most, but a good proportion.  And I did not include running off the runway or terror/hijacking based ones.

 

And BTW, I am 1 for 1. 😄

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_965

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_173

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1420

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_383_(1965)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Colorado_Airlines_Flight_2286

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_553

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_006

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Flight_1713

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_1951

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Airlines_Flight_2605

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Airlines_Flight_349

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Air 

 

I agree that there are plenty of cases where there have been survivors - when you go back 60 years as your list did - I was just questioning your statement that MOST  crashes (other than overshooting runway or other rough landings) had survivors.

 

With a loose enough definition of “crash”, I too am a “survivor”:  the tail wheel assembly on my Aeronca 7AC collapsed just after landing on my second solo, as I turned from the end of the runway onto the taxiway.

[LuckyStar]

On 2/22/2019 at 6:57 PM, sailrprincess said:

I planned a family cruise as a surprise for my family but realized recently that my husbands phobia of being in the middle of the ocean is strong than i thought it was. I showed him the route so he can get an idea of how close to land we will be and talked about how amazing the ships are when he is inside. Does anyone have any advice on how to help my husband get over this phobia? I may have to replace him with a family member or friend. I am not going to stop cruising because he is afraid to but I love traveling with him and I know if he could get over the fear of the ship sinking and him drowning, that he will love it.

I think I wouldn't put him on a cruise ship.  I'd book a land trip.  My BIL is the same way.  He conquered his fear to go to Alaska cause he wanted to see the area so badly so I see his phobia as minor but no everyone has this flexibility.  So sorry.  

[SRF]

18 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

I agree that there are plenty of cases where there have been survivors - when you go back 60 years as your list did - I was just questioning your statement that MOST  crashes (other than overshooting runway or other rough landings) had survivors.

 

With a loose enough definition of “crash”, I too am a “survivor”:  the tail wheel assembly on my Aeronca 7AC collapsed just after landing on my second solo, as I turned from the end of the runway onto the taxiway.

 

I did amend my most.  But a good bit of the time, people survive.  Maybe only a few.  But it is not that a crash is always fatal to all aboard like many people think.

 

Mine was an actual crash, from flight, with post crash fire.

 

My friend, who owned the T-34 we were in, was killed.

[jagsfan]

On 2/27/2019 at 1:07 PM, SRF said:

 

Here are a few with survivors.

 

What more?

 

Maybe not most, but a good proportion.  And I did not include running off the runway or terror/hijacking based ones.

 

And BTW, I am 1 for 1. 😄

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

 

 

UA 232 is the flight that made flying easier for me. 

It proved to me that if it isn’t your time, you’re not going. And it proved that crashes are survivable and that the people who fly planes are superheroes!

When I got off US105 at LaGuardia to fly to Tokyo the following morning, I didn’t know till the next morning that the plane crashed into the bay on takeoff for Cleveland. The flight attendant I had chatted with was one of the fatalities. 

For whatever reason, the United flight popped into my head and I boarded the plane full of strangers and flew to Japan, sure that it wasn’t my time so I was safe!