Nonrefundable OBC in Casino

[JFO23]

Is it allowed to use nonrefundable OBC in the casino?

[denmarks]

Your account only has a total. There is no way to distinguish what the source of the funds were.

[geoherb]

Yes. The account has a total, but they use the nonrefundable up first. 

[voljeep]

there is language that some/one  non-refundable credit(s) can NOT be used in the casino or for grats

 

I'll just leave that little nugget and watch ...

[suekel]

We were talking about this yesterday on another group and the answers were all over the board.  I have a comped cruise next month where I get my deposit back in OBC.  Since it's from the casino, it'll be interesting to see if I can use it in the casino.  

[shanecindy21403]

Last month I had 300 in Non refundable OBC. I went in Casino and sat down at slot machine charged 300 to my room. I then played about 10 minutes worth then cashed it out to my player bank. I then went to cashier to cash out the winnings. She handed me 380 back. 

[Thrak]

56 minutes ago, shanecindy21403 said:

I then went to cashier to cash out the winnings.

 

What are these "winnings" of which you speak? I am not familiar with the concept...

 

"Winnings? We ain't got no winnings. We don't need no winnings. I don't have to show you any stinkin' winnings!"

 

Paraphrased with apologies to John Huston. (Although he also changed the words from the novel so they would fit within the motion picture guidelines. In the original novel Treasure of the Sierra Madre the actual line is more "explicit" and likely not something that fits within the CC guidelines.)

 

[shanecindy21403]

Winnings have become very few and far lol. That's why it surprised me and I stopped while I was ahead.

[Steelers36]

9 hours ago, voljeep said:

there is language that some/one  non-refundable credit(s) can NOT be used in the casino or for grats

 

I'll just leave that little nugget and watch ...

I don't feel like looking, but I don't recall ever reading that OBC cannot be used to pay for the daily gratuity charge.  Wherever and whatever it says about that is not true.  Gratuity, bar, specialty restaurant, etc charges all post to the shipboard account and reduce the OBC balance.  Once that is consumed, you owe Princess the balance. 

 

[fishywood]

15 hours ago, denmarks said:

Your account only has a total. There is no way to distinguish what the source of the funds were.

Not true anymore. When viewing your account onboard on Princess@Sea each OBC is labelled as 'refundable' or 'non-refundable.

Now if there is a way for Princess to distinguish any charges that are not eligible for certain OBCs it has yet to surface.

15 hours ago, voljeep said:

there is language that some/one  non-refundable credit(s) can NOT be used in the casino or for grats

As has been long reported on here, all OBC may be used for the daily gratuities. In theory it cannot be used for additional tips written on to the chit in bars, specialty restaurants, the spa et al in order to prevent passengers from "gifting" any leftover non-refundable OBC to a crewmember in exchange for a kickback. But there has been nary a report of anyone getting caught AFAIK.

[fishywood]

6 hours ago, steelers36 said:

I don't feel like looking, but I don't recall ever reading that OBC cannot be used to pay for the daily gratuity charge.  Wherever and whatever it says about that is not true. 

 

http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-sharebenefit (click to save and open document)

 

 This benefit is not transferable, cannot be exchanged for cash and, cannot be used for casino credits/charges and gratuities charged to your onboard account. 

(second paragraph below table)

[weedpindle]

3 hours ago, fishywood said:

 

http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-sharebenefit (click to save and open document)

 

 This benefit is not transferable, cannot be exchanged for cash and, cannot be used for casino credits/charges and gratuities charged to your onboard account. 

(second paragraph below table)

Then its a mistake when I use OBC for casino play or the daily gratuity charge. Do you not cruise? If you do you will see what OBC is used for .

[Steelers36]

5 hours ago, fishywood said:

 

http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-sharebenefit (click to save and open document)

 

 This benefit is not transferable, cannot be exchanged for cash and, cannot be used for casino credits/charges and gratuities charged to your onboard account. 

(second paragraph below table)

Fortunately it isn't a real thing, but it does give them an out someday if the computer billing system is enhanced.

[Haboob]

4 hours ago, steelers36 said:

Fortunately it isn't a real thing, but it does give them an out someday if the computer billing system is enhanced.

If you look at a recent folio printout, the shipboard billing system already has been enhanced and knows the source and category of each lump of OBC.  Princess "just hasn't gotten around" to barring non-refundable OBC in the Casino.  Figure they won't until and unless some governmental agency takes official notice.  Then figure it will take about 20 seconds.

[Thrak]

1 hour ago, Haboob said:

Princess "just hasn't gotten around" to barring non-refundable OBC in the Casino.  Figure they won't until and unless some governmental agency takes official notice.  Then figure it will take about 20 seconds.

 

Or until enough people on CC discuss how they use the casino as an ATM. Sheesh...

[fishywood]

9 hours ago, weedpindle said:

Then its a mistake when I use OBC for casino play or the daily gratuity charge. Do you not cruise? If you do you will see what OBC is used for .

Oh come on I was just answering the question (that I quoted in my response) as to precisely where the policy can be found in writing, at least to one form of non-refundable OBC (the shareholder benefit).

 

"Do I not cruise?" Really? Hopefully never on the same ship as someone so arrogant as to ask that question--and advertise their Elite status in their avatar.