48traveler Posted March 13, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please excuse me if this is old news. Our Carnival cruise is from Galveston on May 11th We want to go. We are both 71 , no health issues. I am hearing via John Heald that we will need a letter from our doctors stating we are fit to sail or will be turned away. How do I find out what format this should be in and why has not Carnival contacted me regarding our booking and the need for this ? It's impossible to get them on the phone. Thanks for any advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted March 13, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Doctor's note on the Doctor's letterhead would work. Carnival is slammed... considering they have upwards of 100,000 cruising on any given day, they have a lot of people to notify. Hopefully soon. I think that is why John Heald is letting folks know via FB... to try to speed up the communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48traveler Posted March 13, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, VentureMan_2000 said: Doctor's note on the Doctor's letterhead would work. Carnival is slammed... considering they have upwards of 100,000 cruising on any given day, they have a lot of people to notify. Hopefully soon. I think that is why John Heald is letting folks know via FB... to try to speed up the communication. I guess so. I waited over an hour to get them on the phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48traveler Posted March 13, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted March 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, VentureMan_2000 said: Doctor's note on the Doctor's letterhead would work. Carnival is slammed... considering they have upwards of 100,000 cruising on any given day, they have a lot of people to notify. Hopefully soon. I think that is why John Heald is letting folks know via FB... to try to speed up the communication. I just contacted my doctor and reused to issue a letter because the CDC is advising people not to cruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuredancer Posted March 13, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 13, 2020 yeah none of the Dr i work for will write the letter. they have told us to just tell the patients no if they call and ask. they will not take that liability. which i think is wrong. because if you are awake of the risks, it is ultimately your life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted March 13, 2020 #6 Share Posted March 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, adventuredancer said: yeah none of the Dr i work for will write the letter. they have told us to just tell the patients no if they call and ask. they will not take that liability. which i think is wrong. because if you are awake of the risks, it is ultimately your life Sorry...but if "something happens" the doctor would be liable. I don't think any doctor would risk being sued just so someone could cruise. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchip Posted March 14, 2020 #7 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MsTabbyKats said: Sorry...but if "something happens" the doctor would be liable. I don't think any doctor would risk being sued just so someone could cruise. That was my first thought when I heard about the letter. No doctor in his right mind is going to sign it. Denise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted March 14, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, VentureMan_2000 said: Doctor's note on the Doctor's letterhead would work. Carnival is slammed... considering they have upwards of 100,000 cruising on any given day, they have a lot of people to notify. Hopefully soon. I think that is why John Heald is letting folks know via FB... to try to speed up the communication. ironically many older people are not on FB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETski Posted March 14, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I am not over 70 but my husband is. He is in good health but I know our primary Dr. wlll not sign this type of letter. Nor do I think any Dr. would. I have worked in the health field for years and realize this virus is no laughing mater. I believe this required letter can opens a lot of legal issues. Our Carnival cruise is not till Oct. Hoping this clears up and no required letter. If the letter is required I suppose this might be the end of our 40 plus cruises. Please remember to wash your hands, cover your mouth when coughing and sneezing ( not with your hands). Please stay home when sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaHunt Posted March 14, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I also doubt any doctor would want to sign this type of letter, but here's the one RCI is asking for, just so you can see what their 70+ letter looks like. Carnival's might be way different: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/content/dam/royal/resources/pdf/rccl-approved-physician-letter.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandemcruzr Posted March 16, 2020 #11 Share Posted March 16, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 9:30 PM, coevan said: ironically many older people are not on FB You describe me perfectly. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted March 16, 2020 #12 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I seriously know people who have flip phones and never have been on the internet, and yet they're still alive, albeit in their 80's 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted March 17, 2020 #13 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) On 3/13/2020 at 3:40 PM, MsTabbyKats said: Sorry...but if "something happens" the doctor would be liable. I don't think any doctor would risk being sued just so someone could cruise. Just came from my Doctor this morning and he didn't hesitate one bit. Did write "is fit to ocean cruise" instead of "sail", however. He smiled when he said, you're 80 and healthier than some 50 year-olds I treat. I felt very good. 🙂 Edited March 17, 2020 by glrounds 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted March 17, 2020 #14 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, glrounds said: Just came from my Doctor this morning and he didn't hesitate one bit. Did write "is fit to ocean cruise" instead of "sail", however. He smiled when he said, you're 80 and healthier than some 50 year-olds I treat. I felt very good. 🙂 As well you should! Very well done, gl! I hope many doctors have that same attitude! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted March 17, 2020 #15 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) On 3/14/2020 at 7:51 PM, SeaHunt said: I also doubt any doctor would want to sign this type of letter, but here's the one RCI is asking for, just so you can see what their 70+ letter looks like. Carnival's might be way different: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/content/dam/royal/resources/pdf/rccl-approved-physician-letter.pdf I wonder if it could be just edited and make into a carnival letter. Karen Edited March 17, 2020 by yogibear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshhawk Posted March 17, 2020 #16 Share Posted March 17, 2020 the way this letter is written it talks about people 70 and older so I guess that a person who is diabetic (me) who is not over 70 is fit to go? of course I doubt if my DH's doctor would sign off on him. but you never know. none of us know how long we have, so why be unhappy in the time we get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattTenn Posted March 17, 2020 #17 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 hours ago, yogibear said: I wonder if it could be just edited and make into a carnival letter. Karen If Carnival requires for those 70+ to have a letter from the doctor they will NEED TO POST IT on their main website. It is very BAD for Carnival to roll out this requirement and let John Heald to tell people on FB. For me I will not use other line document and modify it to comply for Carnival. We are in the 70+ with a few health issues as aging American otherwise consider healthy and love to cruise lately so unhappy how Carnival operating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted March 17, 2020 #18 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 hours ago, yogibear said: I wonder if it could be just edited and make into a carnival letter. Karen Mine is just written on my Doctor's stationery and it states quite siimply, "Mr. Gary Rounds is fit to sail on ocean cruises", and is signed by my Doctor. If I'm turned down as a passenger on a Carnival cruise ship this will be the LAST TIME. I don't tolerate ignorance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiioman46 Posted March 17, 2020 #19 Share Posted March 17, 2020 How long does a letter last before it expires and Carnival won't accept it? While I'm waiting for all this stuff to quit, I could go to tmy DR and get him to write me a letter, but, if the letter is only good for a certain amount of time, I would like to know. Dusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted March 17, 2020 #20 Share Posted March 17, 2020 by the time Carnival starts sailing again the 70 year old thing will be a mute point 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiioman46 Posted March 17, 2020 #21 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, coevan said: by the time Carnival starts sailing again the 70 year old thing will be a mute point What makes you think that? I hope you're right, but I see these things not going away once started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted March 17, 2020 #22 Share Posted March 17, 2020 the 70 year old rule was created specifically for the Corona Virus, virus dies, the rule dies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury me at sea Posted March 17, 2020 #23 Share Posted March 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, coevan said: the 70 year old rule was created specifically for the Corona Virus, virus dies, the rule dies Carnival has not made this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48traveler Posted March 17, 2020 Author #24 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I decided to call as if to book a new cruise and got a person right away who was very nice. I apologized for cheating to talk to her as I booked our cruise online myself for May 11. I know it will probably be cancelled, but anyway, as far as the over 70 Fit To Sail letter from your doctor, I was told that was only for those few cruises that were to sail when this mess got started. She said, as of now, there are no plans to extend the need for the letter. The main reason I called is because if our cruise does sail, our doctors have refused to give us a letter, even though we are healthy. Again, I do not look for our cruise to sail and would rebook for a later date but I was concerned about needing a letter I cannot get. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc4125 Posted March 17, 2020 #25 Share Posted March 17, 2020 We are also suppose to sail on May 11th (Liberty) - my sister, who is 72 and very healthy, will be glad to hear she may not have to deal with getting a letter from her doctor. I, like you, doubt that cruises will be sailing in May, but we can hope, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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