MiniChunks Posted August 19, 2020 #101 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, LorraineP said: When we stayed in the YC balcony twice I was curious & the day we were leaving asked to see an inside YC. It was so small, hardly anywhere to put clothes & only sitting was a small chair. Google & take a look, think you would be very disappointed. I have to disagree with you here. My parents were in a YC inside when we had the balcony and their cabin was much bigger than any other inside cabin i've seen. It was at least the size of a spacious balcony on RC(minus the balcony obviously) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorraineP Posted August 19, 2020 #102 Share Posted August 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, MiniChunks said: I have to disagree with you here. My parents were in a YC inside when we had the balcony and their cabin was much bigger than any other inside cabin i've seen. It was at least the size of a spacious balcony on RC(minus the balcony obviously) On the Seaside to me it was small, no storage space & only 1 small chair. I have read reviews saying the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket3D Posted August 19, 2020 #103 Share Posted August 19, 2020 22 hours ago, 4774Papa said: >>>>>>>>>. won't cruise on MSC, I know too many cruise friends that hated MSC<<<<<<<<<<<, I read so much good/bad.... just decided to try MSC myself. Was pleasantly surprised. However... remember that everything written on CC (or anywhere) is now just 'ancient history' from the 'golden age of cruising' (before mid-March 2020). Will read reports after sailing begins again. Hoping for the best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted August 19, 2020 #104 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Have sailed both...more RSC than MSC. Sailed RSC's new(er) ships like Anthem of the Seas, and the new ships on MSC on Meriviglia (out of Miami) and Divina (out of Barcelona). MSC obviously has a more Mediterranean flavor....in particular the food and the entertainment. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. If you are open for new experiences, you'll love MSC. If not, probably best to stick with Royal. I will say that the Yacht Club on MSC is a wonderful experience. Really nice cabins and service, as well as the private areas for those staying in the YC. We spent a lot of time in the YC lounge...which offered food/snacks and a private bar. Entertainment on MSC has a more international flavor than that of Royal. I don't drink soft drinks, so really don't know what either line offers. Try MSC. You might like it. At the time, MSC YC was about the same price as a Jr Suite on Royal. I saw where their prices went up significantly last time I checked, however (last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket3D Posted August 20, 2020 #105 Share Posted August 20, 2020 YIKES..... MSC Cruises says family denied reboarding after they broke COVID-19 'social bubble' Morgan Hines, USA TODAY , USA TODAY•August 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted August 20, 2020 #106 Share Posted August 20, 2020 We’ve definitely found the Yacht club experience to be far more expensive than it used to be in some similar sailings nearly double and the “experience” although still good isn’t what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hloakes Posted August 20, 2020 #107 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Rocket3D said: YIKES..... MSC Cruises says family denied reboarding after they broke COVID-19 'social bubble' Morgan Hines, USA TODAY , USA TODAY•August 19, 2020 Yeh, sounds harsh but they did go against the stated rules. Not that I necessarily agree with them but it is their ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 20, 2020 #108 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, hloakes said: Yeh, sounds harsh but they did go against the stated rules. Not that I necessarily agree with them but it is their ship. I aplaud it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyrealnameoremail Posted August 20, 2020 #109 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, hloakes said: Yeh, sounds harsh but they did go against the stated rules. Not that I necessarily agree with them but it is their ship. I don't think it's harsh at all. We really want to cruise again, but we have to feel safe. That means we will carefully read the cruise line's rules that are intended to keep everyone safe. If they are not enforced they won't work. If the cruise line is not enforcing the rules, we won't go. As far as we are concerned, it's like any other safety rule. It must be enforced, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted August 20, 2020 #110 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, hloakes said: Yeh, sounds harsh but they did go against the stated rules. Not that I necessarily agree with them but it is their ship. It’s a lot more than ‘it is their ship’. MSC put a lot of work into securing permission from a host of government authorities to put these cruises on and they need to closely adhere to all the agreed upon protocols and procedures. Here is an excerpt from the MSC website: We’re glad to announce that our two flagships, MSC Grandiosa and MSC Magnifica, will resume operations in the Mediterranean starting from 16 and 29 August 2020 respectively, offering guests from Schengen countries full-experience cruise holidays. The two ships will be the first to implement a new operating protocol that has been designed to protect the health and safety of guests, crew as well as the local communities that the Company’s ships visit. For this reason, it meets and goes beyond guidelines provided by key international and regional regulatory and technical bodies, as well as regulations set forth by the governments in the countries in which MSC Cruises ships operate. Additionally, RINA, the independent maritime certification corporation, has verified that the protocol meets the European Maritime Safety Agency (EMSA) Guidance, which incorporates additional health standards including those from the EU Healthy Gateways Joint Action. We have worked to encompass every aspect of the guest’s journey, from the moment of booking to embarkation, life on board and through to the return back home, whilst preserving the uniqueness of the guest experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted August 20, 2020 #111 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: I aplaud it I also applaud them and would expect all cruise lines to do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket3D Posted August 20, 2020 #112 Share Posted August 20, 2020 So they left the 'ship tour' and broke covid containment. If Royal adopts 'ship tour only' policy for USA cruises we would probably wait for that policy to disappear before booking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted August 20, 2020 #113 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rocket3D said: So they left the 'ship tour' and broke covid containment. If Royal adopts 'ship tour only' policy for USA cruises we would probably wait for that policy to disappear before booking again. If Royal (or any other cruise line) hopes to satisfy the CDC’s requirement(s) to operate out of US ports while a pandemic situation exists, I think we can rest assured that there will be significant conditions regarding off-ship excursions/activities. Frankly, can’t see any of that happening in the United States and I agree with you, don’t bother booking until you know what you are going to be obligated to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted August 20, 2020 #114 Share Posted August 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, notmyrealnameoremail said: I don't think it's harsh at all. We really want to cruise again, but we have to feel safe. Yes! It's not just about rules, it's about safety. There's safety for this family (although apparently, they didn't care)... Safety for other passengers... Safety for those in the ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted August 20, 2020 #115 Share Posted August 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rocket3D said: So they left the 'ship tour' and broke covid containment. If Royal adopts 'ship tour only' policy for USA cruises we would probably wait for that policy to disappear before booking again. Since everyone boarding had to be covid tested and all crew, it would defeat the purpose of testing to then allow people to get off the ship in ports and mix with untested people. Then it would no longer be a bubble of tested passengers kept together and crew. Let's hope covid goes away but for right now I'm ok staying within the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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