Rebooking Cancellation Question

[MsTabbyKats]

Since I trust this community more than the Carnival reps or my TA for accurate info:

Oct 2020 cruise canceled....I opted for the FCC and $600 obc.  At the time, I was told that I had to rebook by 12/31/20.  I rebooked for 9/2021.

I do think that this cruise will sail....but it may be a modified cruise (limited to ccl excursions is the deal breaker).

Our final payment is 6/21...but if it's going to be modified, I'm gonna cancel.

If I cancel...would I be able to still use the FCC and OBC to rebook....or would that be gone since it's after 12/31/20?

 

If there is any question about "using or losing"....I'd rather cancel the 9/20 cruise now, and rebook for 2022...because I should be able to do that.

 

Note:  Not concerned about losing deposit

[cellfree]

So you are wanting to rebook something you already rebooked - that's a tricky one - I would suggest that because you already rebooked your cancelled cruise that you cannot rebook your rebooking and get the $600 OBC.

[MsTabbyKats]

5 minutes ago, cellfree said:

So you are wanting to rebook something you already rebooked - that's a tricky one - I would suggest that because you already rebooked your cancelled cruise that you cannot rebook your rebooking and get the $600 OBC.

No....

I rebooked for 9/21.  I want to cancel.

I want to rebook for 6/22.

I called Carnival...rep was "hazy" at best.

 

[stellarose]

was the carnival rep hazy bc they are clueless for next year? 

[MsTabbyKats]

2 minutes ago, stellarose said:

was the carnival rep hazy bc they are clueless for next year? 

Clueless...and then switched me up the chain of command, and she was clueless.

The problem is, I am spending a lot on the cabin for 9/21 (B2B for 10 days) and I really don't won't to go on a diminished cruise.

 

Also...I'd rather lose the OBC than spend $$$hundreds more on an overpriced diminished cruise just to get the OBC.  I took "marketing 101"!

 

Wake me up from this nightmare, please! (I'm referring to life in general...not just scheduling cruises).

[stellarose]

so sorry you are going through this MsTabbyKats.

[Schoifmom]

If Carnival offers the option to cancel or cancels your 9/21 cruise themselves, you will be able to rebook and get the OBC.  Otherwise, you are out of luck.  If you cancel a cruise that has the rebooking OBC, you will lose it.

 

There is no way that anyone in the world could see what is going to happen in 11 months.  Could you have predicted 11 months ago that we would still be dealing with cancellations and face masks?

[surmy555]

My daughter just had this situation. Sept 20 cruise was cancelled. She rebooked (early saver) a Jan 21 cruise with the FCC and the $600 OBC. Decided it was still to risky. She was able to transfer the booking to a December 21 cruise and retain the $600 OBC. Carnival originally told our TA there would be a $50 PP charge but ended up waiving the charge one time only as a courtesy. Kudos to Carnival (and our awesome TA)

 

[1025cruise]

I wouldn't rush to cancel 9/21 yet. The entire landscape is going to change by then.

[firefly333]

There is already one or two vaccines that will be trying for fda approval if not by the end of next month, by the end of the year.

 

A carnival rep cant forecast the date of a vaccine or how many will take it any more than you can. If most everyone takes it we might not have to be on escorted excursions but probably a lot of younger wouldnt get it, so just foo many variables.

 

I rebooked for sept 11, and just hoping my ports are open. I heard canada was added to the eu no fly list as their cases go up. 

 

I'd love to move mine into 2023 but I'm also early saver.

 

Rcl just started offering double loyalty pts for next year so I'd rather switch it up with one on rcl. 

[MsTabbyKats]

Thanks for the replies.

 

I'll just keep things "as is" and see how the world is in June (final payment).

 

I really don't want to book a 2022 cruise (DH is 86 and I'm not getting any younger either) now....but, imho, I'd have more fun staying home than going on a "limited cruise". (In normal times I have a great and busy life.)

 

Worst case scenario I lose my initial deposit of $100.  It's kinda really silly....when I look at the price increases for 2022...way more than $100.  And the OBC is really just monopoly money anyway.

 

We got off a cruise on 3/8/2020...and in the cab ride home I told DH "This will blow over in 2 weeks."  I was never so wrong about anything.

[SNJCruisers]

I assume that you are against Carnival only excursions because you prefer smaller ones versus many of the ship sponsored yours that are larger?  Because if push comes to shove and things are still the same regarding Carnival only excursions, 600 in OBC should cover any price differentiation.

[MsTabbyKats]

5 hours ago, SNJCruisers said:

I assume that you are against Carnival only excursions because you prefer smaller ones versus many of the ship sponsored yours that are larger?  Because if push comes to shove and things are still the same regarding Carnival only excursions, 600 in OBC should cover any price differentiation.

No, completely wrong.  We generally do "ship excursions" if we do excursions.

 

We've been to these ports multiple times....we've done "all the excursions"....we like to get off and walk around and go to the places we like.  This, being a B2B has one port twice!  

 

In addition, in order to keep us "in the bubble" the ship excursions would have to be limited to sitting on the bus or going to isolated places.  For example, one of our ports is St John, in Canada.  The "tour highlight" is the Reversing Falls.  Since it's open to the public, they couldn't bring you there and keep you in "the bubble".

 

Other areas of concern:

We have a spa cabin...figuring it's cold in Canada.  Will the spa be available?

Casino....based on my local casino, about 3/4 of the machines are disabled.  So on a ship, half the people but less than half the machines.

Shows....one of the reasons B'way may not come back for a long time is that the dressing rooms are cramped and performers can't socially distance.  Dressing rooms on ships are cramped too.  So, instead of "productions" we may have comedians and jugglers.

 

The more thought I give it, the less appealing "a diminished cruise" seems.  When I do anything, (see an show), I expect the whole  show, not just the first act.  Yes, the cruise will probably sail, but I don't think it's gonna be a cruise that I would enjoy.

 

As I said, I'll keep things "as is" for now, but at the same time, keep my expectations low. 

 

[firefly333]

I miss seeing the ocean. I've seen all my ports and might or might not get off. 

 

Canada having their own covid issues, possibly just added to EU no fly order. I wouldnt be sad if most of the ports skipped, prefer sea days. 

 

My cruise in april to Costa maya we notice port pass ... a way of limiting how many get off, but you can still get off and walk around the port. No bus. 

 

I want some lazy sea days watching the ocean slide by. Not gambling in close quarters. So machines dont matter to me. I'll probably try and and get meals in buffet a lot and eat outside in the fresh air as much as possible. 

[MsTabbyKats]

@firefly

 

Everyone has their own agenda.

 

[firefly333]

26 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

@firefly

 

Everyone has their own agenda.

 

True. I never understood going on a cruise and then spending most of my time in a casino with smoke and no view. I can drive up to choctaw in OK and gamble with better prizes a hour away. 

[MsTabbyKats]

45 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

True. I never understood going on a cruise and then spending most of my time in a casino with smoke and no view. I can drive up to choctaw in OK and gamble with better prizes a hour away. 

You once said you like to sit on the lido and read a book.  Not my thing.

 

Except for the buffet (no buffets here)....anything I can do on a cruise I can do at home, but better! 

 

Even the overpriced jewelry that I buy....one of my jewelry sources had Effy this week at a fraction of the price you'd pay on a ship, even with their big "sales". The rep said that since they had $0 income from cruises this year they were liquidating it "at cost".

 

Oh well, the more I talk, the more I talk myself out of cruising.

[firefly333]

On 10/23/2020 at 9:48 AM, MsTabbyKats said:

 

 

Oh well, the more I talk, the more I talk myself out of cruising.

I burned out on cruising due to some bad luck and took time off. I did vista and still think I'm kinda burned out on carnival. 

 

I think like you I rebooked vista next sept. My reasons for thinking idk might or might no relate to you. This past sept was very hot, and all the ports would have been hot and humid. And the record number of storms and hurricanes the ship would have had to go thru had it been this year not next. There were so many especially during this last sept they ran out of letters of the alphabet to name them. 

 

After I booked I was like wish I'd picked the later date, the price was the same. It's the peak of hurricane season.. what was I thinking. ..as storm after storm hit texas and Louisiana. I am booked rcl april 25 and dec 12 and was thinking pick a date in between  .. but wish was a little later than sept after I thought about it.

 

I lost my car in Galveston to hurricane Ike, never saw it again, to those saying dont worry. So yea I'd like to move the date to 2023 and later in the year. 

 

You mention buying stuff ... I've found that about pretty much all the jewelry I've bought .. cheaper at home. Also I bought a couple bottle of scotch at 87 onboard last cruise  .. can buy it cheaper here in dallas. Etc. Shopping onboard just isnt a deal any more. And I love to shop.

 

You might need a break from cruising , or try another line. I did vista last and it didnt enthus me. I'm at 179 pts, only need 3 to hit diamond, and only booked the one, just getting to where carnival might no longer be my first choice. It was also nov last cruise and some huge casino tournament. We had like 650 priority guests. Priority boarding and tendering was a joke. It's just getting to be I'm hitting so many other priority on carnival..and some other things. 

 

No I dont gamble but seems like so many getting casino offers diamond means nothing. 

 

So for different reasons, but I'm kinda so so at best on my carnival cruise. At least you said your deposit is lower, less to lose if you decide not to go. We both got a long time before next sept.

 

 

[boatclub1]

On 10/22/2020 at 9:01 AM, MsTabbyKats said:

 

Oct 2020 cruise canceled....I opted for the FCC and $600 obc.  At the time, I was told that I had to rebook by 12/31/20.  I rebooked for 9/2021.

 

Hello, I am in the same boat.  Our cruise was cancelled in Aug 2019 - we now have to book by 12/19 for a cruise in 2021 or 2022, we are going to book something in 2022.   Problem is once you book and then the deposit is due 90 days out......if cruises are modified say mask wearing, shore excursions are supervised etc, I would not want to go and would want to cancel.   I did call Carnival  yesterday and the customer service was helpful as they do not have a crystal ball either, but there is no insurance that will let you cancel for no reason.   You need to have a Dr note saying that you are sick not able to go to cancel - this doesn't work if you have 4 people going.    So all this unknown is stopping us from booking a new cruise as we are debating what to do for the 2020 cruise......really hate to lose the $600 OBC.  Hopefully after the elections things will settle down and maybe there will be medication out to help with all this mess.

  

 

Edited October 25, 2020 by boatclub1

[MsTabbyKats]

19 minutes ago, boatclub1 said:

Hello, I am in the same boat.  Our cruise was cancelled in Aug 2019 - we now have to book by 12/19 for a cruise in 2021 or 2022, we are going to book something in 2022.   Problem is once you book and then the deposit is due 90 days out......if cruises are modified say mask wearing, shore excursions are supervised etc, I would not want to go and would want to cancel.   I did call Carnival  yesterday and the customer service was helpful as they do not have a crystal ball either, but there is no insurance that will let you cancel for no reason.   You need to have a Dr note saying that you are sick not able to go to cancel - this doesn't work if you have 4 people going.    So all this unknown is stopping us from booking a new cruise as we are debating what to do for the 2020 cruise......really hate to lose the $600 OBC.  Hopefully after the elections things will settle down and maybe there will be medication out to help with all this mess.

  

 

I get it.

Bottom line....it seems kind of foolish to book "the unknown" far out...when the current prices are relatively high...just to get the $600 OBC.   If the price of the cruise is more than $600 over the normal rate...the bonus has no real value.

 

If I'm going to pay a premium price I want a premium product.  Otherwise, (retired and live in walking distance to the port) it's better for me to wait until the last minute.  Even if I end up paying more (which is unlikely) I'll know what I'm buying.  I'd prefer than  than stressing out now about what may happen two years from now!

 

 

[firefly333]

1 hour ago, MsTabbyKats said:

I get it.

Bottom line....it seems kind of foolish to book "the unknown" far out...when the current prices are relatively high...just to get the $600 OBC.   If the price of the cruise is more than $600 over the normal rate...the bonus has no real value.

 

If I'm going to pay a premium price I want a premium product.  Otherwise, (retired and live in walking distance to the port) it's better for me to wait until the last minute.  Even if I end up paying more (which is unlikely) I'll know what I'm buying.  I'd prefer than  than stressing out now about what may happen two years from now!

 

 

That's the other rub is current carnival prices. Some bloggers think with less capacity allowed, fewer ships, prices have to go higher to break even. The cheapest 7 day cruise out of Galveston is 900 for a 1A, I think I got in at 870.xx but still to me for covid pricing very high. That 600 obc doesnt come free at current prices. And someone wants to be added, which means repricing to current pricing. 

 

Rcl had some bargains, gone with the 2 X loyalty points. 

 

I'm booked early saver so non refundable and will make the best of my carnival cruise, but imo the obc offered has pushed cruisefare sky high. Nothing is free, things all level out.

 

I'm sitting on my hands and not booking anything else. Just my opinion. See if last minute prices are better. 

[MsTabbyKats]

@firefly

 

I am speaking just for me and my life/situation:

With such a long "no-sail" period and reduced capacity, they have to raise the rates.  I don't have a problem with that.

My problem is "paying a premium" for an unknown product.

 

I don't care about losing "my non-refundable" deposit or losing the generous OBC....if the cruise is going to be boring and limited.

"As is" now...I see cruises resuming late spring 2021....but to what I consider normal, sometime in 2022.

 

Of course nobody knows the future, but we should all pray for a miracle.  Sometimes good things happen too!

 

 

[firefly333]

3 hours ago, MsTabbyKats said:

@firefly

 

I am speaking just for me and my life/situation:

With such a long "no-sail" period and reduced capacity, they have to raise the rates.  I don't have a problem with that.

My problem is "paying a premium" for an unknown product.

 

I don't care about losing "my non-refundable" deposit or losing the generous OBC....if the cruise is going to be boring and limited.

"As is" now...I see cruises resuming late spring 2021....but to what I consider normal, sometime in 2022.

 

Of course nobody knows the future, but we should all pray for a miracle.  Sometimes good things happen too!

 

 

I understood what you meant.

 

I was just adding I'm worried about sept and hurricanes now too. It's been a extra active storm year since I booked.

 

I see people today feeling a lot more pessimistic about cruises in april and may even. Stock market down today over europe numbers increasing and fears here of more lock downs. Dallas went back up to red recently and El Paso was up 400% sitting there on the border. Trump supposed to be sending help to El Paso. I'm a 12 hour drive from El Paso but our numbers are up.

 

We might not be in lock down but my activities are. Restaurants they say are allowed to be open  but havent been in one in dallas county that allowed you to eat in, though I'm sure there are some before someone jumps on me. Judge here kept bars closed, though when I said that here before someone said some are serving food and open. When I walk into panda express and my bag of food is set on a table for pick up and Dickies bbq has a row of chairs to keep you from getting too close to the counter etc. Feels closed up here to me. 

 

People are cancelling cruises into 2021 over on rcl boards. They still have cruise with confidence, cwc so you can cancel unlike carnival who mostly has early saver. Lots of pessimism today. Europe numbers depressing people. 

Edited October 26, 2020 by firefly333

[MsTabbyKats]

@firefly

 

I just canceled Part 2 of my 9/21 B2B....and I changed Part 1 from a Spa Balcony to Interior Lido.

 

I don't see a point of a balcony to Canada in Sept...or a spa that might not be open.  And it's only 6 days...I can endure 6 days of "diminished cruise"...especially when you factor in the OBC and small gain on CCL stock. (Total cost is 1/3 the cost of the B2B Spa Balcony).  

 

 

 

 

 

[firefly333]

1 minute ago, MsTabbyKats said:

@firefly

 

I just canceled Part 2 of my 9/21 B2B....and I changed Part 1 from a Spa Balcony to Interior Lido.

 

I don't see a point of a balcony to Canada in Sept...or a spa that might not be open.  And it's only 6 days...I can endure 6 days of "diminished cruise"...especially when you factor in the OBC and small gain on CCL stock. (Total cost is 1/3 the cost of the B2B Spa Balcony).  

 

 

 

 

 

I'm getting nailed on ccl stock. I sure bought too high. Getting nailed. Wish I hadn't bought when I did. Good for you buying at the bottom I guess. 

 

Seeing lots of cancellations today, here is just one. Percentage of cases in usa here up, calling europe a 2nd wave. Spain looking at additional restrictions. Italy etc, Ireland rolling lock downs. All this talk killing the market. Even I'm losing my zest to cruise again.