Cienfuegos Posted February 1, 2021 #76 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 7:11 AM, Canberra601 said: The rollout of the vaccine is yet to commence here in the Philippines, and when it does start it will likely be some time before a significant majority of the population are vaccinated. Some projections are that this could be sometime in 2023. This is similar to many other "developing" countries. I wonder what the impact of this will be on the ports that can be included in cruises even after the majority of the population of "developed" countries are vaccinated. Excellent observation. The question of host country inoculations and vaccination levels is a serious issue for cruise operators. Allowing 5,000 people to cascade down the gangway and into your population is a classic public health challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 1, 2021 #77 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cienfuegos said: The question of host country inoculations and vaccination levels is a serious issue for cruise operators. Allowing 5,000 people to cascade down the gangway and into your population is a classic public health challenge. Absolutely is a huge concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbslos18 Posted February 1, 2021 #78 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here is the challenge. If the US achieves the stated goal of 100 million shots in 100 days and maintains a level of 1 million shots a day, herd immunity (75%) wont be reached in April 2022. We need more shots! https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/VACCINE-CALCULATOR/rlgvdgewwpo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted February 2, 2021 #79 Share Posted February 2, 2021 There are a number of hopeful signs on several vaccine fronts. Biontech has said it is prepared for a massive ramp up of its vaccine. I believe they said a billion doses for the year which begins in April. Johnson & Johnson's single dose vaccine may be submitted for emergency use authorization as early as next week. India has made vaccine development and distribution a major priority. The dual issues of vaccinating a significant portion of the world's population, and achieving world herd immunity may be closer to resolution than the common wisdom currently anticipates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 3, 2021 #80 Share Posted February 3, 2021 21 hours ago, Cienfuegos said: Johnson & Johnson's single dose vaccine may be submitted for emergency use authorization as early as next week. Not entirely thrilled with intial reports on this, since, if I'm correct, predicted effectiveness is only like around 66%? The idea of single shot is certainly appealing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbslos18 Posted February 3, 2021 #81 Share Posted February 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said: Not entirely thrilled with intial reports on this, since, if I'm correct, predicted effectiveness is only like around 66%? The idea of single shot is certainly appealing though. True but its hospitalization and death rate is 0. People who get COVID only have mild symptoms. I”ll take it, actually any shot at this point! Waiting to be eligible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsygirl Posted February 6, 2021 #82 Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 12/19/2020 at 9:19 AM, tipsygirl said: When the virus was in early stages we moved the funds for our cancelled Viking river cruise to a June 2021 ocean cruise in Northern Europe. While we accept that we may not be able to take this trip we are hopeful, and will wait as long as possible before cancelling if needed. We are ready to get the vaccine as soon as it is available. Since we are in the "elderly" group and distribution is moving fairly quickly in our area we are anticipating having the vaccine in time to develop sufficient immunity to feel safe to travel. But of course whether the cruise will happen depends on conditions in Europe, not just our readiness to travel. We will see how things develop. We are fortunate we are healthy and not impacted financially by the virus. We don't wish to take chances with our health, but we will so happy when we can travel again...safely. The rollout of vaccines in our area has been slower and more difficult than expected. It has speeded up considerably in the last 2 weeks, with more vaccine available and signup systems that are easier to navigate. We just got our firsts shots of the Pfizer vaccine, and have appointments for the second. But many in are area are still having difficulty getting on the waiting list for shots. This, combined with Europe’s progress on vaccinations also being slow, and even more uncertainty about getting to and from Europe, have caused us to move all 3 of our planned European trips, including the June Viking cruise, to 2022. We are optimistic that conditions will improve, but have decided to wait and watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shank63 Posted February 6, 2021 #83 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This is expected but not welcome news for 2021 cruises: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24331-norway-extends-cruise-restrictions-to-may-1-for-reassessment.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 6, 2021 #84 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Yeah...surely not unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted February 6, 2021 #85 Share Posted February 6, 2021 There are many folks who reject anything that they think has "risk". So, they won't fly, but they will drive 700 miles instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbslos18 Posted February 6, 2021 #86 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The really good news that gives me hope is the steep drop of COVID in Israel. 62% of the public has been vaccinated. COVID has seen a 50% drop. The shots work! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel/israel-says-vaccine-has-almost-halved-covid-cases-among-over-60s-idUSKBN2A4283 RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 7, 2021 #87 Share Posted February 7, 2021 19 hours ago, Cienfuegos said: but they will drive 700 miles instead. ....and yet statistics have always shown flying to be safer. It's just that when there is an airline incident, your chances of survival aren't so good. That being said, our favorite mode of travel is still by car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted February 7, 2021 #88 Share Posted February 7, 2021 More good vaccine news, especially in regards to crew vaccinations: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/02/sputnik-v-vaccine-91point6percent-effective-in-late-stage-trial-the-lancet.html?&qsearchterm=russian vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 12, 2021 #89 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 4:01 PM, Ragnar Danneskjold said: More good vaccine news, especially in regards to crew vaccinations: Had not heard of this one yet - definitely good news! How are those pool plans coming along??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted February 12, 2021 #90 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said: Had not heard of this one yet - definitely good news! How are those pool plans coming along??? Haha, thanks for remembering! Architect in the process of printing detailed drawings for association and city approval. Should have those submitted in a few days 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted February 12, 2021 #91 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: Haha, thanks for remembering! Architect in the process of printing detailed drawings for association and city approval. Should have those submitted in a few days 🙂 Good thing you have a big house. Sounds as though quite a few of us will be showing up for the unveiling.😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted February 12, 2021 #92 Share Posted February 12, 2021 At the rate things are progressing, that’ll be summer of 2022 :-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSEm Posted February 12, 2021 #93 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Even more optimistic on Cruising before the end of 2021. We just received our 2nd dose of the Moderna vaccine. In a month I will think about eating in some of our favorite restaurants. Know they will welcome the business. Booked on VO Bali to Sydney for end of Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eylarson Posted February 12, 2021 #94 Share Posted February 12, 2021 A little more optimistic. Second dose of Pfizer today through the Veterans' Administration. Embarkation date for next cruise 18 April 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deec Posted February 12, 2021 #95 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vslparis Posted February 12, 2021 #96 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, deec said: Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers. “Aye, there’s the rub” ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rami077 Posted February 13, 2021 #97 Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 hours ago, deec said: Received dose #1 today but our first cruise is scheduled for Feb 2022 in South America and I am concerned about those countries being ready for travelers. We are on the Jan 8, 2022 sailing to South America. We are doubtful that the sailing will happen. We already had a South America sailing cancelled this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcupine 52 Posted February 13, 2021 #98 Share Posted February 13, 2021 My question is if Viking is going to cancel all cruise this year and most of next why did they waste the time and money to put in Covid testing labs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamercruise Posted February 13, 2021 #99 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Rami077 said: We are on the Jan 8, 2022 sailing to South America. We are doubtful that the sailing will happen. We already had a South America sailing cancelled this year. Ours follows yours. I am also doubtful that ours will sail. Chance is 50/50, even if US achieves enough percentage of vaccinations for herd immunity. Bigger questions are situation in South America and duration of our vaccine protection. Wonder how early Viking cancelled your previous cruise and if Viking compensated enough for you to re-schedule the cruise? When we booked ours, we had the July 4 sale (which is much better than the Explorers’ sale of free air). Thus, it will most likely cost us more to rebook. If Viking cancels your cruise again, will you rebook the same cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted February 13, 2021 #100 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, dreamercruise said: duration of our vaccine protection. This is a HUGE item...probably the most critical of all. My worry is that once people get the 2nd dose of a vaccine that, for (probably too) many people, they'll think it's "party time" and all is good again.... Edited February 13, 2021 by OnTheJourney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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