Rare Selbourne Posted February 16, 2021 #1126 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, tring said: I am always looked upon as a pessimist though, and before anyone comments on that I will point out that I am quite happy with it as I am never disappointed 🙂 I love that quote Tring! One or two posters have called me pessimistic as well but, unfortunately, my predictions over the last year in regards to cruising have proved correct. I fully admit that my pessimism with regards to the speed that the vaccines could be rolled out was wrong, and I am absolutely delighted about that. If I may add a quote of my own, I am always happy being proved wrong, as it is such a rare occurrence I enjoy the novelty of it 😂 On a serious note, I think you might be right about the reasons for the delay although frankly I just don’t see cruises being mentioned next week. I think people have to guard against interpreting any announcements as to when overseas holidays might re-start as applying to cruises. I feel that cruises may be treated as a very separate entity and may not resume until some months after other types of overseas holidays. For the same reasons that cruises were the first type of holiday to be stopped at the outset of the pandemic I fear that they will be the last to recommence as it starts to come to an end. I could envisage a situation where those who have been vaccinated might be allowed to do round Britain cruises or cruises to nowhere by the summer, but I fear that overseas cruises are likely to be off until late summer at the very earliest. And that, I think, is optimistic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1127 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, joeecco said: I think Moley has proved his info is very useful so I believe May is gone. April 21 is still the latest on P&O website. As I posted NCL have just announced a cruise pause through May 21 and I have no doubt P&O will probably announce the same next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeecco Posted February 16, 2021 #1128 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, grapau27 said: April 21 is still the latest on P&O website. As I posted NCL have just announced a cruise pause through May 21 and I have no doubt P&O will probably announce the same next week. Yes we all know this, my point is that your point is already known. It’s not a case of ‘will they announce May cancelled’ it’s a case of ‘when will they announce May cancelled’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 16, 2021 #1129 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Oo Graham, have you annoyed somebody? 😆 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted February 16, 2021 #1130 Share Posted February 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, grapau27 said: NCL just cancelled through May 31st. I wonder if P&O follow suit. Fred Olsen cancelled all June cruises two or three weeks ago now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted February 16, 2021 #1131 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, grapau27 said: April 21 is still the latest on P&O website. As I posted NCL have just announced a cruise pause through May 21 and I have no doubt P&O will probably announce the same next week. If I recall correctly, don’t they cancel in batches of around 2 months or so at a time? Makes sense from a workload and cash flow perspective. If so, I suspect that the next cancellation will be into June and then in around April they will cancel to August. Hopefully that would then be the end of it, but I wouldn’t be betting on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1132 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, joeecco said: Yes we all know this, my point is that your point is already known. It’s not a case of ‘will they announce May cancelled’ it’s a case of ‘when will they announce May cancelled’. I posted earlier that I think P&O will wait until Boris announces his road map next week which answered your query. NCL have come out in the last couple of hours to say their cruises are paused through May21 which I posted for anyone who is interested because I think P&O will follow suit but as yet their website still says April21. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 16, 2021 #1133 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I wouldn't bet on it either I can't see our 19 nighter going in October even. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1134 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: Oo Graham, have you annoyed somebody? 😆 Thanks Jean. I don't know why someone would be annoyed with me. Edited February 16, 2021 by grapau27 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 16, 2021 #1135 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, grapau27 said: Thanks Jean. I don't know why someone would be annoyed with me. Neither would I. Have a hug 😘 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1136 Share Posted February 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Selbourne said: If I recall correctly, don’t they cancel in batches of around 2 months or so at a time? Makes sense from a workload and cash flow perspective. If so, I suspect that the next cancellation will be into June and then in around April they will cancel to August. Hopefully that would then be the end of it, but I wouldn’t be betting on it. That is very likely Selbourne and my thoughts too but until P&O officially make any further cancellations to answer another posters question we just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1137 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: I wouldn't bet on it either I can't see our 19 nighter going in October even. With the slow vaccine uptake in Europe you are very likely correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1138 Share Posted February 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: Neither would I. Have a hug 😘 Hugs back to you Jean.😍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted February 16, 2021 #1139 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I see that the Kranke woman has more or less put the block on foreign holidays for the Scots this year. That will be interesting to try and enforce, if cruises finally start again from Southampton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted February 16, 2021 #1140 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, wowzz said: I see that the Kranke woman has more or less put the block on foreign holidays for the Scots this year. That will be interesting to try and enforce, if cruises finally start again from Southampton. Yes, I saw her announce that and wondered if others will emulate (or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 16, 2021 #1141 Share Posted February 16, 2021 with the way vaccinations are going in Europe, I don't think any of us will be going there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted February 16, 2021 #1142 Share Posted February 16, 2021 It feels, to me, that we should sacrifice foreign travel until next summer. We can’t keep repeating cycles of mind-numbing lockdown, a few weeks of anything goes and then inexorable re-infection leading to more lockdown Even the PM seems to be thinking this, saying there can’t be another lockdown. If there can’t be another lockdown then this, awful, winter lockdown has to be made to work. We can’t clear this island and then head off round the world, bringing back re-infection I know this won’t be a universally popular view. I don’t like the prospect any more than anyone else does 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1143 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: with the way vaccinations are going in Europe, I don't think any of us will be going there. For the first time in 18 years we have no cruises for this year and reluctantly I say there will be no cruising this year imo. I hope I am wrong and will book a last minute cruise if they are allowed. Graham. Edited February 16, 2021 by grapau27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1144 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: with the way vaccinations are going in Europe, I don't think any of us will be going there. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted February 16, 2021 #1145 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: with the way vaccinations are going in Europe, I don't think any of us will be going there. Although you could argue, that if you have had your two vaccinations, why should you be banned from going to Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1146 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, wowzz said: Although you could argue, that if you have had your two vaccinations, why should you be banned from going to Europe? I think it is Europe's populations lack of vaccinations that will restrict travel for us to Europe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobstheboy Posted February 16, 2021 #1147 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I have to agree with the majority that cruises are unlikely this year. There may be short UK destination only cruises which wouldn't appeal to me, I want sun. So my Ventura August Med cruise is very doubtful, I will take a refund of my low deposit. That leaves my Iona cruise to the Canaries in February 22, what is the consensus on that one ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted February 16, 2021 #1148 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Yes because we can probably still carry it even if it doesn't make us unwell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted February 16, 2021 #1149 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, grapau27 said: I think it is Europe's populations lack of vaccinations that will restrict travel for us to Europe. But given that those from the UK will be protected, why cannot they travel, regardless of the vaccination situation in Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 16, 2021 #1150 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, bobstheboy said: I have to agree with the majority that cruises are unlikely this year. There may be short UK destination only cruises which wouldn't appeal to me, I want sun. So my Ventura August Med cruise is very doubtful, I will take a refund of my low deposit. That leaves my Iona cruise to the Canaries in February 22, what is the consensus on that one ? Hopefully by next year your cruise to the Canaries will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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