Rare oskidunker Posted August 30, 2021 #1 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) American travelers may be denied admission to Europe The European Union lifted travel restrictions for U.S. visitors in June, seeking to boost tourism and also expecting reciprocity in return. The latter never came, and most European travelers are still not allowed in America because of COVID-19 limitations. Now the EU might play tit-for-tat. With coronavirus infection rates in the U.S. rising past those in Europe, the EU may recommend Monday to ban Americans from non-essential travel to the Old Continent, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday. The newspaper said some countries may still decide to allow U.S. visitors with proof of vaccination Edited August 30, 2021 by oskidunker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted August 30, 2021 #2 Share Posted August 30, 2021 As a "whole", the thread title is not quite accurate. It 'may be' a recommendation from the EU to the Member States, each State, ultimately, will implement/issue its' own policy on travel to their country by Americans. Rather it be in whole or in part or modified. bon voyage 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted August 30, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted August 30, 2021 https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/08/28/europe-to-remove-the-us-from-the-safe-travel-list/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted August 30, 2021 #4 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, oskidunker said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/08/28/europe-to-remove-the-us-from-the-safe-travel-list/ Thank you for the link, yet what I stated earlier in my post still stands, the verification is in paragraph #2 of the Forbes article. Which is beyond the headline.... bon voyage Edited August 30, 2021 by Bo1953 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted August 30, 2021 #5 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, oskidunker said: American travelers may be denied admission to Europe The European Union lifted travel restrictions for U.S. visitors in June, seeking to boost tourism and also expecting reciprocity in return. The latter never came, and most European travelers are still not allowed in America because of COVID-19 limitations. Now the EU might play tit-for-tat. With coronavirus infection rates in the U.S. rising past those in Europe, the EU may recommend Monday to ban Americans from non-essential travel to the Old Continent, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday. The newspaper said some countries may still decide to allow U.S. visitors with proof of vaccination Okay, after thinking about it, you were only reporting what is factual yet did not expound on or further detail in your original post the essential info IMO. I apologize to you on this point. bon voyage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted August 30, 2021 Author #6 Share Posted August 30, 2021 No decision yet. Must be 5 pm over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGiantsfan11 Posted August 30, 2021 #7 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, oskidunker said: No decision yet. Must be 5 pm over there. Just breaking now.. https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/30/is-the-eu-about-to-reintroduce-restrictions-for-us-travellers?fromBreakingNews=1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare slewis7 Posted August 30, 2021 #8 Share Posted August 30, 2021 At least according to NYT, this will only impact unvaccinated US travelers to the EU. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/30/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine If the NYT interpretation is accurate, it seems like a good move to me. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy_weatherman Posted August 30, 2021 #9 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Scheduled to fly out for Athens on Friday evening to join Apex on Saturday. I am not worried about potential new restrictions, as I feel these may be focused more on the unvaccinated, and I can't see Greece invoking more restrictions at this point. They were one of the first EU countries to reopen from what I've read, so I'm thinking (and hoping) that it's business as it has been since May for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted August 30, 2021 #10 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just heard on news that restrictions have been passed. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGiantsfan11 Posted August 30, 2021 #11 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The European Union recommended on Monday that Americans should be banned from nonessential travel to its member states after a rise in Covid-19 cases in the United States. Now we wait to see what each country does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipFan13 Posted August 30, 2021 #12 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The restrictions “can vary from state to state, but it is widely expected that fully vaccinated Americans would still maintain unfettered access” to the European Union, said an E.U. diplomat who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/30/eu-travel-restrictions/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted August 30, 2021 #13 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I really would suggest waiting for the individual country reactions to the EU advice. As yet there really is no news, and at this point nothing has changed, all that is being reported is the same EU advice and a bunch of speculation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat4158 Posted August 30, 2021 #14 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Covid: EU recommends new travel restrictions for US as cases rise https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58386967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted August 30, 2021 #15 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Still just the same announcement being recycled. Actual news will come when we start to hear what the individual countries are doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerScot Posted August 30, 2021 #16 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sounds like a bit of Tit for Tat ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58386967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted August 30, 2021 #17 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Have they been uniform in following the guidance in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlin Bear Posted August 30, 2021 #18 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Up to now all the EU member states have followed the EU guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted August 30, 2021 #19 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GerScot said: Sounds like a bit of Tit for Tat ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58386967 Yes, I'm sure they ignored the explosion in new cases in the US and just decided based on the lack of reciprocity. And for those who are unsure, yes, that was sarcasm. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted August 30, 2021 #20 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GerScot said: Sounds like a bit of Tit for Tat ! More like the EU made the first move, it wasn't reciprocated, the EU let it slide even though the numbers didn't really justify keeping it open, but the numbers continued to slide so they can't ignore it any more and have to shut it down again. No judgement, it was probably opened up too soon and it was probably right not to reciprocate. Let's wait and see if there are any mitigations in the individual country actions like vaccination status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glmacruise Posted August 30, 2021 #21 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I really feel for the places who rely on tourism. Many lives will be destroyed economically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 30, 2021 #22 Share Posted August 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, glmacruise said: I really feel for the places who rely on tourism. Many lives will be destroyed economically. I doubt this latest recommendation will have much of a negative impact beyond what already exists. Apparently the EU recommendation (not binding on any country) is to only ban unvaccinated folks. The truth is that few unvaccinated have been traveling to Europe because of the various restrictions that have been in place not to mention the mandatory vaccination requirements of several cruise lines. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShipFan13 Posted August 30, 2021 #23 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Here everyone can keep up to date as things change in each country visiting these websites. https://es.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ Spain Entry and Exit Requirements: SPAIN Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? Yes Effective June 24, 2021, U.S. citizens can travel from the United States to Spain if they present a QR code generated through the Spain Travel Health portal, obtained through the website or by downloading the SpTH app in Google Play or App Store for each traveler U.S. citizens who are travelling to Spain from a country that is not the United States should make sure they follow the guidance published by Spanish authorities on their local Spain Embassy website. Please be aware that travel immediately following this change may involve extensive wait times upon arrival as implementation is rolled out. Requirements below. Click here for information for travel within the European Schengen zone. https://it.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ Italy Entry and Exit Requirements: Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? Yes U.S. citizens may travel to Italy for any reason, including tourism. Current travel restrictions on entry into Italy are linked to several factors, including one’s country of departure and purpose of travel. The Government of Italy periodically updates these restrictions based upon changing conditions, and all travelers should refer to current Italian health decrees when making travel plans. English-language guidance on current entry and exit requirements is maintained on the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ website. All persons traveling to Italy from any foreign location are required to provide their airline or Italian law enforcement officials with a self-declaration form prior to travel. Regional governments in Italy may also impose restrictions on travelers from certain foreign countries, and travelers intending to travel or return to Italy are advised to check whether any new provisions have been introduced by their region of destination. Beginning on June 21 and valid until August 30, 2021, travelers from the United States may enter Italy without the need to self-isolate/quarantine upon arrival if they present a Covid document compliant with Italian and EU regulations, commonly called the “Green Pass”, certifying one of the following conditions: An Anti-COVID 19 vaccination certificate for an European Medicines Agency (EMA)-recognized vaccine. At present, EMA recognizes the following vaccines: Pfizer-BioNtech, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and AstraZeneca. The date of the final vaccine dose must be at least 14 days prior to travel. Travelers vaccinated in the United States can prove this via the “white card” bearing the CDC logo. A medical certificate confirming recovery from COVID dated no more than six months before departure. A negative molecular PCR or rapid antigen test result carried out within 48 hours of departure. Passengers are required to complete the online EU Digital Passport Locator Form. https://uk.usembassy.gov/covid-19-coronavirus-information/ England Entry and Exit Requirements Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? Yes, if not traveling from a ‘red-list’ country. Please see the UK government website for more information. Is a negative COVID-19 test (PCR and/or serology) required for entry? Yes Are health screening procedures in place at airports and other ports of entry? Yes Please see UK Visa and Immigration’s website for information on visa extensions for residents and tourists. You will not be able to travel to the United Kingdom from a country on the travel ban list unless you have residence rights in the UK. The United States is not currently on the travel ban list. New arrivals will be required to provide UK officials with contact and travel information prior to arrival by completing the Public Health Locator Form. This form must be completed by each member of your traveling party. You may not submit the form until 48 hours before your arrival in the UK. Other countries France Netherlands Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted August 30, 2021 #24 Share Posted August 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hlitner said: I doubt this latest recommendation will have much of a negative impact beyond what already exists. Apparently the EU recommendation (not binding on any country) is to only ban unvaccinated folks. There is a lot of vague reporting around at the moment, and while it is hoped that individual countries will decide to allow travel for those who are fully vaccinated, that isn't explicitly part of the decision that the EU has just taken. All that has happened is that the EU has removed the USA from Annex I of the Non-essential travel list. This is what that means: "Non-essential travel to the EU from countries or entities not listed in Annex I is subject to temporary travel restriction. This is without prejudice to the possibility for member states to lift the temporary restriction on non-essential travel to the EU for fully vaccinated travellers." So the EU does not recommend that fully vaccinated people be allowed in for non-essential travel, it merely doesn't eliminate the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkroad Posted August 30, 2021 #25 Share Posted August 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mark_T said: There is a lot of vague reporting around at the moment, and while it is hoped that individual countries will decide to allow travel for those who are fully vaccinated, that isn't explicitly part of the decision that the EU has just taken. Exactly. I’ve seen speculation and interpretation, but no official statement that fully vaccinated US travelers will still be allowed to travel to the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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