fstuff1 Posted September 14, 2022 #1 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Male, solo. ship= Solstice in balcony. I have already booked the Vancouver to Hawaii (9days) and Hawaii to Australia (17days) portions. probably going to book the Australia to Singapore leg. The question is Beijing. I'm a US citizen. i want to visit all those far east 3rd world countries but I really dont know if i want Beijing in this current political climate. I would fly from Beijing back to VA (Dulles airport). Keep Beijing leg, or get off at Singapore and fly/hotels for the far east countries like Thailand and Vietnam? Edited September 14, 2022 by fstuff1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Aurora Posted September 14, 2022 #2 Share Posted September 14, 2022 We find Singapore so interesting we would probably stay in Singapore for several days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hygge! Posted September 14, 2022 #3 Share Posted September 14, 2022 The Great Wall is a wonderful experience to walk. With that said - that’s it for China. We did not like Bejing. I would spend most of your time in Singapore definitely and Halong Bay. Of course, it all depends what you like to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted September 14, 2022 #4 Share Posted September 14, 2022 If you are reluctant then listen to your inner voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani negreanu Posted September 14, 2022 #5 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I'd spend a few days in Singapore, before embarking on a cruise to Thailand and Vietnam, mainly for Halong Bay, ending in Hong Kong. HK in itself is worth 2-3 days, take a day trip to Macao too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastdance Posted September 15, 2022 #6 Share Posted September 15, 2022 The Great Wall, in the Beijing area was a treat, but I would stop in Singapore, but know all the rules! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted September 15, 2022 #7 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Beijing will never be better than it is now. It will get bigger, smoggier…. The Great Wall is a travesty, like Dollywood. I was there in 1983, when western tourists were unusual. When we went to the Great Wall it was deserted. Bus parked right by the wall, one tourist place, no restaurants. Other tourists were Chinese or Japanese. Ten years later, 1993, totally different. Beijing seemed to have doubled. Traffic a mess. At the Great Wall you parked a quarter mile away, had to pass through a gauntlet of stalls to get to the road. The area reminded me much of a renaissance festival, with re-enactors everywhere, Chinese gongs ringing, soldiers in Genghis Khan rig on the walls, guns firing. And mobs of people. That was 20 years ago. I can’t imagine how much worse it is now. Do it now. EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare chemmo Posted September 15, 2022 #8 Share Posted September 15, 2022 8 hours ago, fstuff1 said: Male, solo. ship= Solstice in balcony. I have already booked the Vancouver to Hawaii (9days) and Hawaii to Australia (17days) portions. probably going to book the Australia to Singapore leg. The question is Beijing. I'm a US citizen. i want to visit all those far east 3rd world countries but I really dont know if i want Beijing in this current political climate. I would fly from Beijing back to VA (Dulles airport). Keep Beijing leg, or get off at Singapore and fly/hotels for the far east countries like Thailand and Vietnam? We loved Singapore, well worth a few days stay. Have you thought of a river cruise for Vietnam? We loved Vietnam but our brief visit was not long enough. Seeing it in more depth on a river cruise is something still on our bucket list… Many tour companies offer split stay visits for Thailand so you would have no problem flying into Bangkok then moving on after a couple of days to a more tranquil area. Thailand was wonderful when we first visited back in 1992 but was much more commercialised when we returned some years later. If you have time limitations perhaps you may prefer a longer stay in Vietnam? We toured China some years ago. We did enjoy seeing the forbidden city, the Summer Palace and of course the Great Wall whilst staying in Beijing but found the rest of China far more beautiful and interesting. Only you can decide how comfortable you are visiting at present. We did the Hawaii to Sydney part of your trip when I retired. Our favourite cruise ever… However you decide to divide your time sincere best wishes for what will be a real holiday of a lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted September 15, 2022 #9 Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 hours ago, dani negreanu said: HK in itself is worth 2-3 days, take a day trip to Macao too... Thank you Dani 🥰 I hope our government will open the borders soon and we can welcome travellers and cruise ships back to our city again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted September 15, 2022 #10 Share Posted September 15, 2022 12 hours ago, fstuff1 said: Male, solo. ship= Solstice in balcony. I have already booked the Vancouver to Hawaii (9days) and Hawaii to Australia (17days) portions. probably going to book the Australia to Singapore leg. The question is Beijing. I'm a US citizen. i want to visit all those far east 3rd world countries but I really dont know if i want Beijing in this current political climate. I would fly from Beijing back to VA (Dulles airport). Keep Beijing leg, or get off at Singapore and fly/hotels for the far east countries like Thailand and Vietnam? Do you plan to fly from Singapore to Beijing? I don't think Solstice will go to Beijing. The last segment is just Singapore to Hong Kong (3rd - 16th Nov 2023). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted September 15, 2022 Author #11 Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Cruise Wonderland said: Do you plan to fly from Singapore to Beijing? I don't think Solstice will go to Beijing. The last segment is just Singapore to Hong Kong (3rd - 16th Nov 2023). yeah, meant Hong Kong. same difference in political climate. heck, i think the political climate is worse in Hong Kong with all the crack downs. and same issue... the Singapore to Hong Kong leg is all the 3rd world far east countries. Sounds like stopping at Singapore for a few days then stopping a few days in the major cites in Vietnam/Thailand is the way to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wineoclock Posted September 15, 2022 #12 Share Posted September 15, 2022 We went to China for our honeymoon in 1997 as one of the destinations. Beijing, Xian, Guilin & one other stop I think. Glad we’ve done it & wouldn’t ever go back. Loved Hong Kong but that was while still under British lease. Thailand, Singapore & Bali 🎉🎉🎉 My One regret about Celebrity is that they don’t have a world cruise itinerary. That to me would be heaven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted September 15, 2022 #13 Share Posted September 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: yeah, meant Hong Kong. same difference in political climate. heck, i think the political climate is worse in Hong Kong with all the crack downs. Indeed, yes... I totally understand your concerns. 38 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: Sounds like stopping at Singapore for a few days then stopping a few days in the major cites in Vietnam/Thailand is the way to go? Right, this is also possible. Or book another cruise ship that will visit other Asian countries near Singapore. Unfortunately there are not too many choices in November. Not sure if the Singapore roundtrip short cruises of Spectrum of the Seas may suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerelmx Posted September 15, 2022 #14 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, fstuff1 said: Male, solo. ship= Solstice in balcony. I have already booked the Vancouver to Hawaii (9days) and Hawaii to Australia (17days) portions. probably going to book the Australia to Singapore leg. The question is Beijing. I'm a US citizen. i want to visit all those far east 3rd world countries but I really dont know if i want Beijing in this current political climate. I would fly from Beijing back to VA (Dulles airport). Keep Beijing leg, or get off at Singapore and fly/hotels for the far east countries like Thailand and Vietnam? Solstice doesn't goes to Beijing after Sydney to Singapore cruise, is a 13 night cruise Singapore to Hong Kong visiting Thailand & Vietnam Edited September 15, 2022 by gerelmx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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