Rare pasodancer Posted January 29, 2023 #26 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: There are no Grand Loft suites on Symphony. Those are On Q class. Guessing they meant either Grand suite or Crown loft suite, neither of which are Star class You are so correct - we were Crown Loft suite - sky class and still couldn't get easily get into the Coastal Kitchen for dinners. For lunch there was always availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 29, 2023 #27 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, silentbob007 said: I think you have to knock on the door for entry since your card won’t open it. If you are not in a suite, you will have to knock on the door. Pinnacles have to knock on the door as well. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted January 30, 2023 #28 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 12:57 AM, cruisegirl1 said: Some ships can have 100 Pinnacles (or more) on board. Of course, I’m not referring to a repositioning/transatlantic which is very heavy Pinnacle (Often 200 or more.) Sure - and at the same time will have a minimum of 172, but typically more around 250 people in the junior suites, so as you see even in those cases only half as many Pinnacles. Hence, why it's easier to squeeze in the Pinnacles, disregarding the status priority and even that the wording indicates they have priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinelmo Posted January 30, 2023 Author #29 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I`d like to thank everyone for their input to my question; it was very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ret MP Posted January 30, 2023 #30 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 4:47 AM, cruisegirl1 said: With limited availability, who gets priority— the pinnacle member or a guest in a JS? thanks m Not having read any follow-on posts. My guess to the answer to your question is that Pinnacle would have priority. Pinnacle has unlimited availability to the CK, whereas a JS has CK availability only at dinner time and only if space available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 30, 2023 #31 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ret MP said: Not having read any follow-on posts. My guess to the answer to your question is that Pinnacle would have priority. Pinnacle has unlimited availability to the CK, whereas a JS has CK availability only at dinner time and only if space available. Others suspect it is JS. Pinnacle are often excluded from CK for Breakfast. Now on some ships, Ps get a voucher for one CK lunch and one CK dinner per person per cruise. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 30, 2023 #32 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Changes in CK availability have nothing to do with cutbacks. When P were granted access, there were just a handful on each cruise. Being Pinnacle was unusual. I was told (more than once) that the reason for the long stretch from D+ to Pinnacle was to show extreme loyalty. P numbers have climbed, especially since the return to sailing and the venue simply cannot accommodate all those who are now eligible. Some recall being told that P's would always have the same benefits as suite guests, but sadly that just isn't feasible. As far back as I can recall, JS had dinner access if space was available. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlbecker1 Posted January 30, 2023 #33 Share Posted January 30, 2023 We were on Anthem & Symphony recently in JS’, are Diamond+ and didn’t have any problems getting into Coastal Kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 31, 2023 #34 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 3:17 PM, pasodancer said: You are so correct - we were Crown Loft suite - sky class and still couldn't get easily get into the Coastal Kitchen for dinners. For lunch there was always availability. Did your concierge contact you the week before your sailing? When we've been in Sky Class, we've always had an email from the Concierge early in the week before our cruise. We replied with our CK reservation requests. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 31, 2023 #35 Share Posted January 31, 2023 8 hours ago, cruisegirl1 said: Others suspect it is JS. Pinnacle are often excluded from CK for Breakfast. Now on some ships, Ps get a voucher for one CK lunch and one CK dinner per person per cruise. M I think JS should trump Pinnacle for dinner. They actively market that as a benefit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted January 31, 2023 #36 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 1:50 PM, alfaeric said: That being said, we've never been able to get into CK as a JS to even make reservations or get seated on an Oasis ship. Maybe they move the desk outside??? Knock on the door. LOL On 1/29/2023 at 11:04 AM, sandebeach said: Master’s tier level in the casino gets access to the suite lounge and the Coastal Kitchen. I have heard that Master’s level gets priority over Pinnacle, but can not verify if that is true on all ships. This is true. My Masters tier gets me into CK for B/L/D even when I would be denied as a Pinnacle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurschick Posted January 31, 2023 #37 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On our last CK cruise suites had priority, a pinnacle was allowed to make a (singular) booking upon embarkation and was waitlisted for other nights, the JS in the queue was advised that they had to reach out the morning they wanted to dine for dinner to check availability. it is really going to depend on how many suite guests are utilizing CK and how many are on dining packages, then how many Pinnacles are on board then the JS will just get the leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 31, 2023 #38 Share Posted January 31, 2023 21 hours ago, John&LaLa said: I think JS should trump Pinnacle for dinner. They actively market that as a benefit Good to hear. We are Pinnacle but we often book JSs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 31, 2023 #39 Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 hours ago, Spurschick said: On our last CK cruise suites had priority, a pinnacle was allowed to make a (singular) booking upon embarkation and was waitlisted for other nights, the JS in the queue was advised that they had to reach out the morning they wanted to dine for dinner to check availability. it is really going to depend on how many suite guests are utilizing CK and how many are on dining packages, then how many Pinnacles are on board then the JS will just get the leftovers. As we are Pinnacles in a JS for our next cruise, looks like we have two methods to snag a CK table. I wonder whether May Wonder cruises will have lots of Pinnacles. I've seen some low numbers -- it looks like Allure out of Galveston has very large Pinnacle numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 1, 2023 #40 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, SherriZ366 said: As we are Pinnacles in a JS for our next cruise, looks like we have two methods to snag a CK table. I wonder whether May Wonder cruises will have lots of Pinnacles. I've seen some low numbers -- it looks like Allure out of Galveston has very large Pinnacle numbers. Wonder will be higher in May. If you want lower numbers head south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted February 1, 2023 #41 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Wonder will be higher in May. If you want lower numbers head south Then we'll just have to do a few specialty restaurants and take CK when we can get it. We pretty much are wedded to Port Canaveral and are booked on May 21. And I'll put a bid in for Royal Up. Edited February 1, 2023 by SherriZ366 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ret MP Posted February 1, 2023 #42 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 7:00 PM, John&LaLa said: I think JS should trump Pinnacle for dinner. They actively market that as a benefit Like I said in a previous post that got deleted with some others, I don't cruise JS and I'm nowhere near P. And like you, I'm guessing/thinking that P would have priority because they have no time/meal restrictions, just require reservations/availability whereas JS are restricted to the dinner meal only and only with reservations/availability. My logic, P has proven to be a loyal/repeat customer, the kind of customer that any business would be looking to do what they can to have them come back. I'd guess/think many JS customers are one and done, at least one and done in a JR suite (yes, there are some that are loyal to the JSs), but P is proven to be loyal to the brand. As usual, I could be wrong. This is my opinion, it doesn't have to be anybody else's. I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. And this is a discussion board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 1, 2023 #43 Share Posted February 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ret MP said: Like I said in a previous post that got deleted with some others, I don't cruise JS and I'm nowhere near P. And like you, I'm guessing/thinking that P would have priority because they have no time/meal restrictions, just require reservations/availability whereas JS are restricted to the dinner meal only and only with reservations/availability. My logic, P has proven to be a loyal/repeat customer, the kind of customer that any business would be looking to do what they can to have them come back. I'd guess/think many JS customers are one and done, at least one and done in a JR suite (yes, there are some that are loyal to the JSs), but P is proven to be loyal to the brand. As usual, I could be wrong. This is my opinion, it doesn't have to be anybody else's. I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. And this is a discussion board! I was just going by what is officially in writing on Royal's website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted February 1, 2023 #44 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 hours ago, SherriZ366 said: Good to hear. We are Pinnacle but we often book JSs. Hey....you made it! Congrats Sherri! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted February 1, 2023 #45 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Our go to cabin is a JS....it suits our needs for just the two of us. Though when we sail on a ship that has a CK...we always book GS and above. As a Pinnacle, we may or may not have access, and JS is never a guarantee either...so we don't take that chance that we could be excluded. Not to mention having to knock on the door for access...no thanks. With the ships sailing so full now, and even overbooked.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted February 1, 2023 #46 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, island lady said: Hey....you made it! Congrats Sherri! 🙂 Pat -- My bad -- I thought I told you that we made Pinnacle in April. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted February 1, 2023 #47 Share Posted February 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Ret MP said: Like I said in a previous post that got deleted with some others, I don't cruise JS and I'm nowhere near P. And like you, I'm guessing/thinking that P would have priority because they have no time/meal restrictions, just require reservations/availability whereas JS are restricted to the dinner meal only and only with reservations/availability. My logic, P has proven to be a loyal/repeat customer, the kind of customer that any business would be looking to do what they can to have them come back. I'd guess/think many JS customers are one and done, at least one and done in a JR suite (yes, there are some that are loyal to the JSs), but P is proven to be loyal to the brand. As usual, I could be wrong. This is my opinion, it doesn't have to be anybody else's. I'm not trying to force anything on anybody. And this is a discussion board! We haven't been "one and done" for a JS for at least 10 years. We try to get good deals (often book when cruises are released) and if possible book a GS (future cruise credits from the Covid shutdown have helped) or try for a Royal Up. JSs have great walk-in closets etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted February 1, 2023 #48 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, island lady said: Our go to cabin is a JS....it suits our needs for just the two of us. Though when we sail on a ship that has a CK...we always book GS and above. As a Pinnacle, we may or may not have access, and JS is never a guarantee either...so we don't take that chance that we could be excluded. Not to mention having to knock on the door for access...no thanks. With the ships sailing so full now, and even overbooked.... You know we always sail from Port Canaveral so it's harder to get a GS on Wonder because there are fewer of these suites. However, Allure is coming to Port C in November and we are doing a back2back on her in a GS -- don't care where she goes -- just want the suite/CK experience. Got a great price when sailings were released. About $2,000 less than a JS on Wonder. Knocking on CK's door doesn't bother me as long as we have a table -- I just pretend we're going to a Speakeasy during Prohibition. 🤣 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ret MP Posted February 1, 2023 #49 Share Posted February 1, 2023 19 hours ago, John&LaLa said: I was just going by what is officially in writing on Royal's website I'd like to see that. Do you have a link or web address for it? Not that it really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ret MP Posted February 1, 2023 #50 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, SherriZ366 said: We haven't been "one and done" for a JS for at least 10 years. We try to get good deals (often book when cruises are released) and if possible book a GS (future cruise credits from the Covid shutdown have helped) or try for a Royal Up. JSs have great walk-in closets etc. I hope that you and everybody else noticed that I said, "I'd guess/think many JS customers are one and done". So, yes of course, there are many of you that swear by the JS. I had no intent nor did I show/type any animus towards those that like and repeat their choice of JSs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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