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[jimbo5544]

5 hours ago, ontheweb said:

OK, that may get you out of paying taxes, but you will still have to bring your tax exempt form when shopping.

 

And it won't get you out of the muster drill!

 

4 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said:

 

But, as least Cheryl's letter from her Dr gets us out of the sardine drill if/when it returns. Much better to sit in an inside lounge than huddle under those lifeboats in the heat.

 

Yes, though -- there's some things in life you can't fully "get out of" !!

 

Tom

Did someone suggest the muster drill was returning?

 

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

7 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

 

Did someone suggest the muster drill was returning?

 

 

I read that some line had resumed it (can't recall which), but I also saw where JH said it was going to stay as it is now. Of course, nothing ever stays the same, forever !

 

It must be wildly more popular this way, for all involved. As long as it satisfies (fill in the blank/authority), then all should be OK. I mean, it's not like if the ship was actually in distress that there would not be wholesale panic !

 

Tom

[jimbo5544]

23 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said:

 

I read that some line had resumed it (can't recall which), but I also saw where JH said it was going to stay as it is now. Of course, nothing ever stays the same, forever !

 

It must be wildly more popular this way, for all involved. As long as it satisfies (fill in the blank/authority), then all should be OK. I mean, it's not like if the ship was actually in distress that there would not be wholesale panic !

 

Tom

They (the cruise line) seem to be much more attuned at who has missed the 30 second life vest demo (the only way they have of documenting who watched anything at all.  That said, it is significantly better than the old way.

[ontheweb]

2 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

 

Did someone suggest the muster drill was returning?

 

The traditional muster drill has returned on NCL. The new drill which came along with the Covid crisis is still provisional. SOLAS could withdraw its approval if it does not deem it safe enough to deal with a real emergency.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

2 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

The traditional muster drill has returned on NCL. The new drill which came along with the Covid crisis is still provisional. SOLAS could withdraw its approval if it does not deem it safe enough to deal with a real emergency.

 

Of course, in "real" emergencies, sometimes even the Captain seems to need a refresher (thinking of Concordia). What hope does the single trip passenger have?

 

Tom

[ontheweb]

1 minute ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said:

 

Of course, in "real" emergencies, sometimes even the Captain seems to need a refresher (thinking of Concordia). What hope does the single trip passenger have?

 

Tom

And that captain (he does not deserve a capital letter) is in JAIL. What he did is not typical.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

3 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

And that captain (he does not deserve a capital letter) is in JAIL. What he did is not typical.

 

Not typical, but how many examples of sinking cruise ships do we have?

 

It's good to know he had to face the music. At least he was not above the law !!
 

Tom

[ontheweb]

3 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said:

 

Not typical, but how many examples of sinking cruise ships do we have?

 

It's good to know he had to face the music. At least he was not above the law !!
 

Tom

Yes, not above the law, let's give a big cheer to Italy.

[jimbo5544]

5 hours ago, ontheweb said:

The traditional muster drill has returned on NCL. The new drill which came along with the Covid crisis is still provisional. SOLAS could withdraw its approval if it does not deem it safe enough to deal with a real emergency.

If they truly wanted to make the MD be taken more seriously, they could mandate attendance before authorizing sign and sail for drink access.  I mean all of them.  The new system works as good as standi g in the sun wearing a stupid life jacket.

[Guest BasicSailor]

5 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said:

If they truly wanted to make the MD be taken more seriously, they could mandate attendance before authorizing sign and sail for drink access.  I mean all of them.  The new system works as good as standi g in the sun wearing a stupid life jacket.

You're cutting into their revenue now.  Half the people never make it to the lifeboats either way jimbo.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

They could always place TV's in the gangway up to the ship and have Guy barking out all the safety info. By the time you got onto the ship, you'd be ready for that drink !  😉 

 

Tom

[Pika8347]

Wait. The vacation guarantee is gone?!? When did that happen?

[CCAubs]

Hello from Seatrade 2023 in Ft. Lauderdale!

 

The State of the Industry was held yesterday. Due to time constraints, we were limited to just one question per CEO (including one from @notscb!), but it was amazing to have the opportunity to include the cruisers' voice in the conversation for the first time ever.

 

Here's a link to our recap of the event and CEO answers: https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/7330/ Including a photo, too 🙂

 

We received A TON of questions across all of the cruise line forums (and lots of fantastic feedback) for the lines, and are going to be following up by sending all of it their way as well. We'll also use it on the Cruise Critic side for future story ideas, too. 

 

A huge thank you to all of you for sharing your thoughts, questions and experiences -- this community is incredible.

[notscb]

9 hours ago, CCAubs said:

including one from @notscb!)

WHAT.

[simplelife]

On 2/15/2023 at 4:38 PM, ontheweb said:

Why are you disregarding passenger safety by not going back to the real muster drill? Have you any proof that the new e-muster is effective? You have taken away all the other Covid changes like requiring up to date vaccinations and Covid testing, why not go back to the tried and true muster drill for safety purposes if you are in effect saying Covid is no longer a worry?

Have you any proof that the old muster drill was effective?

[ontheweb]

9 hours ago, simplelife said:

Have you any proof that the old muster drill was effective?

It has worked in the past, for example the fire on the Star Princess. There is no proof the new drill is at all effective.

[CarnivalShips480]

51 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

It has worked in the past, for example the fire on the Star Princess. There is no proof the new drill is at all effective.

We don't necessarily want to find out

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

It's not like we can do controlled studies to compare the effectiveness of different types of safety drills.

 

Perhaps they can offer both. If they think that the "old" version is superior, just offer free drinks for anyone who attends... it will henceforth be known as the MUSTER PARTY 🙂

 

Tom

[ontheweb]

2 hours ago, CarnivalShips480 said:

We don't necessarily want to find out

Of course, we don't, but if there is no proof of its effectiveness, why even have it other than "it is required by law".

 

@chengkp75 who had a career as a chief engineer on cruise ships has posted several times that the traditional muster drill provides essential training for the crew.