Biker19 Posted December 25, 2023 #1701 Share Posted December 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said: .....if she can't get to Singapore in Oktober 24 ...she can't do a TP in 2025! And the decision to re-deploy her will not be made later than May - I totally doubt Suez will take passenger ships before the end of 24 - So they need to rethink Anthem's deployment! There is another way to get to Asia - Anthem did that during COVID to drop off staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted December 25, 2023 #1702 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: OK totally understand! So right now we have Anthem in limbo and no place for Ovation.... interesting!👍😁 I think it was the very start of the pandemic and they pulled Spectrum out of china and brought it to Sydney.It just sat at anchor . It was a treat for the firefighters after our Bush fires we had. They didn’t do any revenues here ,I don’t think it was suitable for our market . It would definitely not be suitable for North America. Edited December 25, 2023 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeOcean Posted December 25, 2023 #1703 Share Posted December 25, 2023 We are considering the Brilliance 8/2025 Iceland & Greenland cruise. Worth going through a TA for it? Any group rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieRoo Posted December 25, 2023 #1704 Share Posted December 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, GimmeOcean said: We are considering the Brilliance 8/2025 Iceland & Greenland cruise. Worth going through a TA for it? Any group rates? There definitely are groups. I booked when it first opened and my TAs pricing was less than Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatra603 Posted December 26, 2023 #1705 Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: Suez is closed for passenger ships right now and probably for quite some month down the road .....if she can't get to Singapore in Oktober 24 ...she can't do a TP in 2025! And the decision to re-deploy her will not be made later than May - I totally doubt Suez will take passenger ships before the end of 24 - So they need to rethink Anthem's deployment! I can't find any reference to Suez being closed to passenger ships. I'm on the Dubai to Athens segment of the UWC, so I've been taking a keen interest. It'll be interesting to see what RC do, as they can't just cancel this one and sailing around Africa comes with it's own challenges and dangers, not to mention totally disrupting the port dates for the rest of the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1706 Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 hours ago, tottenhamfc said: So what will they offer in your experience for cancelled deployments? The Ovation TP is over the top pricewise. So you think we will know by May 24 A 100% refund on all non-refundable rates!👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1707 Share Posted December 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, Tatra603 said: I can't find any reference to Suez being closed to passenger ships. I'm on the Dubai to Athens segment of the UWC, so I've been taking a keen interest. It'll be interesting to see what RC do, as they can't just cancel this one and sailing around Africa comes with it's own challenges and dangers, not to mention totally disrupting the port dates for the rest of the WC. Yes that one will be interesting! Read up on the drone attacks on freight ships in the Red Sea and a LOT of freight having to go around Africa now - because Suez has problems, nobody will send a passenger ship to Suez right now or the near future! When is the passage planned for the WC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted December 26, 2023 #1708 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said: Yes that one will be interesting! Read up on the drone attacks on freight ships in the Red Sea and a LOT of freight having to go around Africa now - because Suez has problems, nobody will send a passenger ship to Suez right now or the near future! When is the passage planned for the WC? WC arrives in Dubai May 9, and is going through Suez May 19/20th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1709 Share Posted December 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, little britain said: WC arrives in Dubai May 9, and is going through Suez May 19/20th WOW that is soon! Will be VERY interesting what they do! I bet they will go around Africa..... How many passengers do they have? Would going empty and fly everyone to Athens work? But then they would still risk the ship.... Let's hope the situation is solved within the next weeks!🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1710 Share Posted December 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Biker19 said: There is another way to get to Asia - Anthem did that during COVID to drop off staff. I doubt they will go that route - no revenue to be had.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmn Posted December 26, 2023 #1711 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) An interesting article which mentions MSC diverting its eastbound World cruise January suez transit around Africa https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/cruises/articles/what-red-sea-attacks-suez-canal-could-mean-cruise-holidays/ Edited December 26, 2023 by sgmn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1712 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, sgmn said: An interesting article which mentions MSC diverting its eastbound World cruise January suez transit around Africa https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/cruises/articles/what-red-sea-attacks-suez-canal-could-mean-cruise-holidays/ Totally waiting what Royal will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted December 26, 2023 #1713 Share Posted December 26, 2023 13 hours ago, GimmeOcean said: We are considering the Brilliance 8/2025 Iceland & Greenland cruise. Worth going through a TA for it? Any group rates? Group rates are available for that sailing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 26, 2023 #1714 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) On one hand, the suez and straights of hormuz are always dangerous for ships. On the other, the odds of an attack on a cruise ship are so incredibly low for many reasons, no matter the tensions. That's basically like attacking 50 countries at once. Edited December 26, 2023 by smokeybandit 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 26, 2023 #1715 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: I doubt they will go that route - no revenue to be had.... Repos in general are very low revenue/profit. Many times, recently, including Icon, have non-revenue repos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1716 Share Posted December 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, Biker19 said: Repos in general are very low revenue/profit. Many times, recently, including Icon, have non-revenue repos. Sure but a 30 day repo ist different than a 6 or 7 day repo Still betting Anthem gets a new deployment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 26, 2023 #1717 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, cruiseboy89130 said: Still betting Anthem gets a new deployment! She might, but not because she can't get to Asia via Suez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted December 26, 2023 #1718 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Biker19 said: She might, but not because she can't get to Asia via Suez. We will see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted December 26, 2023 #1719 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Dubai is one of the main end/start sectors of the world cruise. Canceling the cruise in Dubai would have to be one of the options on the table In the Miami Deployment Office f the situation arose. Flor the time being my guessing still has Serenade and Anthem going via the Suez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted December 26, 2023 #1720 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: We will see.... Spectrum might just stay in Singapore , I don’t know if Anthem could got to Ravenna . Edited December 26, 2023 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted December 26, 2023 #1721 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, springaussie said: Dubai is one of the main end/start sectors of the world cruise. Canceling the cruise in Dubai would have to be one of the options on the table In the Miami Deployment Office f the situation arose. Flor the time being my guessing still has Serenade and Anthem going via the Suez. In worst case they can go from Dubai to Istanbul around Africa and just cancel the current two May departures (Suez cruise from Dubai to Athens and Black Sea and Turkey cruise from Athens to Istanbul). Then they could continue with Med cruises in June as scheduled. Edited December 26, 2023 by Saab4444 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraulein1965 Posted December 27, 2023 #1722 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Yes. Booked on Ovation TP April 2025 from Sydney to Honolulu. Do not see this 1st leg from Sydney to Honolulu open on the website anymore, but see the second leg from Hawaii to Vancouver April 2025 still open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted December 28, 2023 #1723 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fraulein1965 said: Yes. Booked on Ovation TP April 2025 from Sydney to Honolulu. Do not see this 1st leg from Sydney to Honolulu open on the website anymore, but see the second leg from Hawaii to Vancouver April 2025 still open. I was looking at that but it’s seems it’s off the market . I wonder what’s going on? It looks like the cruise before the transpacific has been pulled also. Ovation isn’t due for a dry dock March 2026 I believe. This looks a job for @springaussie Edited December 28, 2023 by Chiliburn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraulein65 Posted December 28, 2023 #1724 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Yes, I noticed also that the cruise before it was pulled as well. A bit concerning. This is a very special trip we have been planning for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraulein65 Posted December 28, 2023 #1725 Share Posted December 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: I was looking at that but it’s seems it’s off the market . I wonder what’s going on? It looks like the cruise before the transpacific has been pulled also. Ovation isn’t due for a dry dock March 2026 I believe. This looks a job for @springaussie I noticed also that the trip before the TP was pulled as well. Is a bit concerning. Hope everything is ok. This is a very special trip that we have been planning for years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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