Stick93 Posted July 23 #51 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said: 230k is oasis class size or so. Are they putting 8000 passengers on these ships because oasis is still only 6000 passengers. Or is it 8000 with staff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 23 #52 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said: Excel was perfect during start up, But I went on MG for sailabration and it was dumb cramped the Inside spaces just aren't big enough for the amount of people. Doesn't mean I still dont like MG but I rather be on a Spirit/Dream/Vista class. Oh yeah it was great August 2021. Maybe slightly better than perfect. I mean we had 2,800 people. I frequently was the only person at the second level tiki bar on sea day afternoons. Now I don’t attempt to get to that bar. I’ll walk to serenity if I’m up there. I went to a juggling show in center stage and was the only person on the main floor. The Mexican resorts were great back then as well. Traveling is a lot better when nobody else is doing it. Edited July 23 by Saint Greg 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted July 23 #53 Share Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, Stick93 said: Are they putting 8000 passengers on these ships because oasis is still only 6000 passengers. Or is it 8000 with staff?? Oasis class has 200+ less staterooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pirate4me2 Posted July 23 #54 Share Posted July 23 I just do not know how I feel about the BIG ships. MG was fun to experience, but I personally really prefer Vista class. But hey.....maybe with the big ships they will "fix" the Havana area that they botched on the Excel class! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #55 Share Posted July 23 12 minutes ago, Stick93 said: Are they putting 8000 passengers on these ships because oasis is still only 6000 passengers. Or is it 8000 with staff?? It does not go into that detail. I am sure there will be more to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray985 Posted July 23 #56 Share Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: It does not go into that detail. I am sure there will be more to follow. It's 8,000 guests. The press release says "carrying almost 8,000 guests at full capacity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick93 Posted July 23 #57 Share Posted July 23 38 minutes ago, aborgman said: Oasis class has 200+ less staterooms. More public space on oasis class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted July 23 #58 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said: We are not all that different. I'm much better looking. 😜 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare starstruck05 Posted July 23 #59 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Ships are going to be larger than Excel and hold more pax. From the announcement: "a new class of vessel, at nearly 230,000 gross registered tonnes" "With over 3,000 guest staterooms, the new ships will be the largest in the Carnival Corporation global fleet and will be able to deliver fun to more guests than any ship in the world when carrying almost 8,000 guests at full capacity." 1 hour ago, aborgman said: Noticeably bigger. 25% larger than Excel class in gross tonnage. About 25% more staterooms than Excel class. "brand for a new class of vessel, at nearly 230,000 gross registered tonnes" "With over 3,000 guest staterooms, the new ships will be the largest in the Carnival Corporation global fleet" I went back and reread. I thought it was referring to the Excel ones already ordered. Oh well. Still give me hope for Dream/Vista class in NOLA as no way they would bring any of these here. Edited July 23 by starstruck05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_load_letter Posted July 23 #60 Share Posted July 23 Da fuq....nah, that's going to be a no from me dawg. Good thing that as I get older, Holland looks better and better every day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #61 Share Posted July 23 35 minutes ago, jsglow said: I'm much better looking. 😜 That does not set the bar all that high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted July 23 #62 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said: Da fuq....nah, that's going to be a no from me dawg. Good thing that as I get older, Holland looks better and better every day. We're very much looking forward to giving HAL a try; likely initially either a Panama Canal full transit or an extended Mex Riv out of San Diego. Edited July 23 by jsglow 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_load_letter Posted July 23 #63 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, jimbo5544 said: Gotta love CC, people moan and groan when they do not get new builds. People moan and groan when they do order new builds. Never gets boring here. Meh, wife and I would still be sailing Inspiration and Imagination every month if they were both still in Long Beach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted July 23 #64 Share Posted July 23 i wonder if this means that an excel class sails out of NYC. The Mardi Gras was scheduled to do a few cruises out of NYC which never happened in 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted July 23 #65 Share Posted July 23 I'm also wondering how this affects the retirement schedule. I would have to believe that the two remaining Fantasy Class boats, Sunshine, and perhaps the inherited P&O ships will face sundowning at some point. My sincere hope is that some of these older ships get retained for 'service expansion' (San Juan, perhaps 2nd European, etc.) I'm also interested as to how this all gets coordinated vis-a-vis other Carnival Corp lines. Is HAL repositioned as their 'small ship' destination focused line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted July 23 #66 Share Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, shof515 said: i wonder if this means that an excel class sails out of NYC. The Mardi Gras was scheduled to do a few cruises out of NYC which never happened in 2020 I'm going to say no. They had enough challenges selling a Vista Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #67 Share Posted July 23 32 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said: Meh, wife and I would still be sailing Inspiration and Imagination every month if they were both still in Long Beach. You would not want to be on them now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #68 Share Posted July 23 34 minutes ago, jsglow said: We're very much looking forward to giving HAL a try; likely initially either a Panama Canal full transit or an extended Mex Riv out of San Diego. We will be touring a HAL ship next month. Might have a cruise booked on one by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsglow Posted July 23 #69 Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, jimbo5544 said: You would not want to be on them now. They might leak a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #70 Share Posted July 23 Just now, jsglow said: They might leak a little. Now THAT was a sad day watching them get beached over in Turkey. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsfan246 Posted July 23 #71 Share Posted July 23 I heard the glass dome funnel of the Spirit class is making a return on these ships. You heard it here first 😉 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #72 Share Posted July 23 23 minutes ago, jsglow said: I'm also wondering how this affects the retirement schedule. I would have to believe that the two remaining Fantasy Class boats, Sunshine, and perhaps the inherited P&O ships will face sundowning at some point. My sincere hope is that some of these older ships get retained for 'service expansion' (San Juan, perhaps 2nd European, etc.) I'm also interested as to how this all gets coordinated vis-a-vis other Carnival Corp lines. Is HAL repositioned as their 'small ship' destination focused line? I am sure some of those ships days are numbered (as can be said for all of us, more or less). For both RCCL and Carnival, it seems as though they have these growth spurts where they turn over a good portion of the fleet in a relatively short period of time. Great when you go through it but the down side is they reach a level of maturity at around the same time frame. All that said, I would echo your thoughts on older ships, especially in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 23 #73 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Stick93 said: More public space on oasis class Curious of how you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted July 23 #74 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: Curious of how you know that. Well... New Carnival ships: 230,000 gross tons 3,000+ staterooms Oasis class: 235,000 gross tons 2,744 staterooms I mean - it's possible Oasis class ships are dedicating way more space to crew - but odds are that being larger with less staterooms equates to more public space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoors27 Posted July 23 #75 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, stobe1 said: Could they possibly be dusting off the old shelved Pinnacle class design and updating it a bit for this new class? N Before, I came to your post I was wondering if they were going to go with the original Pinnacle Class concept. It will be interesting to see. I'm searching for that old concept video now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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